[rawfeeding] Digest Number 12424

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Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: Looking to switch, but worried about Chicken protein sensitivity
From: carnesbill
1b. Re: Looking to switch, but worried about Chicken protein sensitivity
From: Andrea
1c. Looking to switch, but worried about Chicken protein sensitivity
From: monsterjam2@aol.com

2a. Re: No idea how to start...
From: Andrea

3a. Re: barfing up pieces of bone
From: Andrea
3b. Re: barfing up pieces of bone
From: Heather

4a. Re: gassy pup
From: Tracy Meal

5a. Re: ichy skin!
From: pfs.freedom
5b. Re: ichy skin!
From: Sandee Lee
5c. Re: ichy skin!
From: Yasuko herron

6a. Re: GI Normous Dogs
From: PK Shader
6b. Re: GI Normous Dogs
From: PK Shader
6c. Re: GI Normous Dogs
From: Andrea

7a. Re: Anal gland problems
From: Heather
7b. Re: Anal gland problems
From: katkellm

8a. feeding?
From: joan
8b. Re: feeding?
From: costrowski75

9a. Re: Update on Ginger (diarrhea)
From: costrowski75

10a. Question about bones
From: Patty Linden
10b. Re: Question about bones
From: Sandee Lee
10c. Re: Question about bones
From: Yasuko herron

11a. Re: First time shopping for raw - -wishme luck
From: homesforallpets

12a. Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD)
From: trayc2244
12b. Re: Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD)
From: Sandee Lee
12c. Re: Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD)
From: Joanne Thompson

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1a. Re: Looking to switch, but worried about Chicken protein sensitivity
Posted by: "carnesbill" carnesw@bellsouth.net carnesbill
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:44 am ((PST))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "ekendahl" <robert@...> wrote:
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> * Do you think Newton is sensitive to chicken?

Won't know for sure until you try it but I doubt it.

> * Is sensitivity to chicken protein common?

Very rare

> * Any chance raw chicken protein can be handled better then cooked?

Very much so.

> * If not what is a good, beef based, RMB?

I suspect you are thinking in terms of meat and RMBs. Don't think
like that. Instad think of meat, bones, and organs. Naturally a beef
based RMB would be anything from a cow. Dogs eat cow meat very well
after an introductory period. Beef is on the rich side and tends to
cause digestive upset if fed early in the diet. I never feed beef
bones to my Great Danes. Some people feed beef ribs. I choose not to.

> * What and how much would you feed this 99lbs active dog?

Check out my web page listed below my signature.

> Looking for help on how to give this family member a very long active
> life!

You are headed in the right direction. Sounds like he gets a good
amount of exercise and now he's headed towards a very good diet.
There is not much more you can do.

Bill Carnes
http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm

Feeding Raw since October 2002

"Unnatural diets predispose animals to unnatural outcomes"
Dr. Tom Lonsdale

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1b. Re: Looking to switch, but worried about Chicken protein sensitivity
Posted by: "Andrea" poketmouse45@yahoo.com poketmouse45
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:55 am ((PST))

> Now I'm afraid to switch him onto a raw feeding based on chicken
> carcasses and are looking for help/support.

Well, a good raw diet will be much more varied and meaty than just
chicken carcasses, but because it is so cheap chicken is a really
helpful protein for newbies.

> * Do you think Newton is sensitive to chicken?

It's possible but pretty unlikely. I'd say try it out and see what
happens.

> * Is sensitivity to chicken protein common?

A true allergy to a raw protein is pretty rare in a dog, after all
they were designed to eat the stuff.

> * Any chance raw chicken protein can be handled better then cooked?

Absolutely. Cooking changes the protein structure of the meat so a
dog who has an allergic reaction to cooked chicken often has no
problem with raw chicken.

> * If not what is a good, beef based, RMB?

I agree with Bill, don't think in terms of RMB's since it gets kind
of confusing. Think in terms of animal parts. Beef bones aren't
often edible for dogs, but mine love to tackle a slab of beef ribs or
work on a super meaty neck. Bone isn't a big component of the diet
so if your dog doesn't consume beef bones it's fine.

> * What and how much would you feed this 99lbs active dog?

The general starting point is between 2-3% of the ideal adult
weight. So you are looking at around 2lbs a day to start with. If
you notice him getting too chunky or ribby adjust the amount of food
as needed.

Andrea

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1c. Looking to switch, but worried about Chicken protein sensitivity
Posted by: "monsterjam2@aol.com" monsterjam2@aol.com monsterjam2
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:42 am ((PST))

Hi Robert!
I am relatively new to this group, too, but we recently got a rescue
English Setter who was also "sensitive to chicken" or it could have been the
stuff in the bag, haven't decided which, yet. We have been feeding raw for
about 8 weeks (although, we've had to sear some stuff). Instead of starting
with chicken or turkey, we started with lamb ribs for a week, then pork ribs &
pork meat for a week. It was a bit pricey to start, but now Ziggy is eating
turkey without any problems. I will try chicken again at some point down the
road. We also had some really good luck with venison ribs if you can get
some!
Good luck!!
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2a. Re: No idea how to start...
Posted by: "Andrea" poketmouse45@yahoo.com poketmouse45
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:00 am ((PST))

The easiest way to start is to jump right in. Get a chicken, cut it
into quarters and hand a quarter to the dog. Generally you'll feed 2-
3% of the ideal *adult* weight every day. As you feed through the
chicken keep reading here and check out the archives. Let us know if
you have questions.

Andrea

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Jacy Brooke" <jacyc19@...> wrote:

> I have a 7mth cockapoo about 10ibs i am clueless how to do this, how
> much to give a day and what to give? Can someone help me out.

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3a. Re: barfing up pieces of bone
Posted by: "Andrea" poketmouse45@yahoo.com poketmouse45
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:04 am ((PST))

Your instincts are right, feed bigger food and the problem will
probably go away. When your boy swallows a thigh whole (or mostly
whole) he ends up with a big hunk of bone to digest in his stomach. If
that bone doesn't get done in an appropriate amount of time it starts
to irritate his stomach so out it comes. Hope that helps.

Andrea

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "angiecreed55" <tad151@...> wrote:

> in the middle of the night, he wakes up and vomits a bone bit. I'm
> tired of getting up and having to clean up his barf, and I'm sure the
> poor guy is tired of wretching. If we give him a whole chicken to
> munch on we'll have to take it away from him eventually, because he
> will keep eating until it's gone. But maybe that's what we should
> do. I don't think giving smaller bites is the answer.

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3b. Re: barfing up pieces of bone
Posted by: "Heather" newbeginnings06@gmail.com malignstar
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:08 am ((PST))

I've also found that bone that is too thick my dog will throw up. When
he eats pork neck bones he'll usually leave some bone that is too
hard/thick but sometimes bone will come back up later on. Weight
bearing bones like chicken legs/thighs are more dense.. maybe your dog
is having a bit of a rough time with that too? I'm sure the swallowing
all at once doesn't help either.

Heather

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4a. Re: gassy pup
Posted by: "Tracy Meal" hiddenpoetinme1@yahoo.com hiddenpoetinme1
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:21 am ((PST))

Hi Amy,

Not sure what kind of pup you have or how long you are feeding raw but I can share my experience...

I can certainly relate to having to leave the room sometimes, I hate when the stench wakes me up (chuckle)....

I have two rotties. One was raw fed since weaning, she is 7 months old and the other is eleven and raw fed for the last 5 months. They both get gassy from time to time. I find it depends on what I feed and how much I feed. Bigger meals or feeding venison usually reaps emissions from my two. The older girl was really bad "all the time" on kibble, litterally farting every 20 minutes or so, so now I do not complain about the occasional emissions.

Some dogs take time to adjust to a new protein and some are just gassy no matter what you feed em....

Tracy

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5a. Re: ichy skin!
Posted by: "pfs.freedom" staylor@chjinc.com pfs.freedom
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:07 am ((PST))

Hi Sandee,
I have not tried a flea comb (because ive never heard of one lol) but
I will do that today to make sure. He is not on any supplements. He
gets raw chicken breast with ribs usually 3 times a day. I was giving
him a little bit of beef here and there but read somewhere else that
you should ease into the beef with puppies and new raw eaters to help
with loose stool (which he has also had). So I sould put the fish oil
on the chicken? how much do I put? He doesnt eat much as he is still
really little, maybe a palm full of meat at a time. I will get a flea
comb today... THANKS!

Shannon and Brody :)

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Sandee Lee" <rlee@...> wrote:
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> Shannon,
>
> There are lots of possibilities...could be dry skin, could be
additives in
> the chicken, not enough fat in the diet or fleas
> (you tried a flea comb on him to make sure that's not what it
is?). You
> could try a bit of fish or salmon oil...just make certain it isn't
enhanced
> with soy. You aren't using any other supplements, are you?
>
> Sandee & the Dane Gang
>
> From: "pfs.freedom" <staylor@...>
>
>
> Hello everyone. Ive just gotten a chihuahua puppy, ive named Brody,
> that is about 11 weeks old. Ive been feeding him raw chicken and a
> little bit of beef for the the last week since I got him. My
concern is
> that he keeps biting his back legs like they are ichy. I cant see
any
> fleas on him and he seems to only chew on the same spots. Im
wondering
> if it could just be dry skin and if anyone knows a natural remedy
>

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5b. Re: ichy skin!
Posted by: "Sandee Lee" rlee@plix.com mariasmom2001
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:34 am ((PST))

Shannon,

Generally puppies can eat variety fairly quickly...but if he's having loose
stools, you can continue to go slow. You can squirt a bit of fish oil onto
his food...I'm not sure how much for such a little pup (I'm used to Great
Danes <g>)!

Sandee & the Dane Gang

From: "pfs.freedom" <staylor@chjinc.com>
I have not tried a flea comb (because ive never heard of one lol) but
I will do that today to make sure. He is not on any supplements. He
gets raw chicken breast with ribs usually 3 times a day. I was giving
him a little bit of beef here and there but read somewhere else that
you should ease into the beef with puppies and new raw eaters to help
with loose stool (which he has also had). So I sould put the fish oil
on the chicken? how much do I put? He doesnt eat much as he is still
really little, maybe a palm full of meat at a time. I will get a flea
comb today... THANKS!

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5c. Re: ichy skin!
Posted by: "Yasuko herron" sunshine_annamaria@yahoo.com sunshine_annamaria
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:19 am ((PST))

>if he's having loose stools, you can continue to go slow.

I agree with Sandee. Since fish oil is 100% fat.If dog had loose stool... adding oil may not help him having firmer stool. If you change breast wityh rib bone to leg quarter or back part of birds which has more bone than ribs,that bone amount may help the dog to have non loose stool,maybe??

Recommended amount to fish oil I usually see is 1000mg fish oil per 20lb body weight.

yassy

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6a. Re: GI Normous Dogs
Posted by: "PK Shader" Forloveofdogs@gmail.com forloveofdogs
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:08 am ((PST))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Ania Tysarczyk" <AniaJRT@...> wrote:
Oh My Gosh!!! Ania is that YOU??

The Jacks do not catch enough "supplemental food" to cause the weight
discrepancy. As you know they can work their literal tails off for
half a day and come up empty if the "prey" does not wish to cooperate.
And believe me I would LOVE if they caught enough to be self sufficient.

Lika is the best at :meal retrieval but I doubt (since rabbits are
becoming very scarce from thew lack of tracks in the snow.) she is
taking more than one ever few weeks although in the past it was at
least one a week.

My dogs work hard almost every day either on the property of on the
White River Bike Trail which usually involves a three to five mile
fast paced hunt.

Nan (Pretty Pretty Princess Needs A Name) the 12 year old is loosing
her steam for this and frequently lags behind,. I can only think it
is because of her weight. She used to be one of my most tireless and
ferocious hunters.

As far as fat content is concerned all her meats can be counted as
high fat except for venison and mice (I don' really know about the
mice) maybe. Beef, lamb, chicken, turkey, etc. and she loves the
bones probably more than the meat.

Do you have any "low fat" suggestions that will not cause her skin to dry?

PK

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6b. Re: GI Normous Dogs
Posted by: "PK Shader" Forloveofdogs@gmail.com forloveofdogs
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:08 am ((PST))

P.S. I almost wish it was worms but it is not. Just dog.

PK

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6c. Re: GI Normous Dogs
Posted by: "Andrea" poketmouse45@yahoo.com poketmouse45
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:03 am ((PST))

> Do you have any "low fat" suggestions that will not cause her skin to
> dry?

Seems like rabbit, chicken, turkey and venison would be good low fat
options for her. You could still add in a bit of the other meats from
time to time so she still gets a big variety. If her skin starts to
dry out you could give her some fish oil or increase the amount if you
already give it.

Feeding her with big food/no food might help her too. I had the
hardest time keeping my GSP from porking out until I started feeding
him every other day. If she's the only one that skips meals you could
use the time to do some one on one games so she doesn't feel left out.
Hope that helps a bit.

Andrea

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7a. Re: Anal gland problems
Posted by: "Heather" newbeginnings06@gmail.com malignstar
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:08 am ((PST))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Laurie Swanson" <laurie@...>
> I guess Amos could be sensitive to bone amounts--do you notice if
this
> happens with particularly boney meals, or after less boney meals?
Are
> his poops generally well-formed? Dry? Crumbly? Loose, or runny?
>
> The vet did express my dog's anal glands once and it just doesn't
seem
> natural and healthy to me to do that regularly. If I were you, I
would
> just try to take note of it and anything you can relate it to for
a
> little while, and experiment with the diet.
>
> I don't know if feeding once a day would help or not. How old is
your
> dog and what are your reasons for feeding twice a day?

This is actually the first time I've noticed it. He'd scoot once in
a great while but not like he has the past few days. His poops will
vary with the meal. Boney meals they are dry and crumbly, meat/bone
or organ meals are pretty well formed but can be a slight bit wet
that will get on his butt a little. He did have some that I didn't
clean off and maybe his scooting was from that but I felt where his
anal glands should be and to me they felt fuller than they probably
should be. Amos is estimated at about 3.5 years old- he was a stray
so no one knows for sure but the vet guessed his age at 2 when I
found him (March '06). I feed him twice a day because I find if he's
fed only once, he gets hungry again by late afternoon and will
resort to eating grass and animal poop outside and he will
consistantly raid the litterpans (he'll knock baby gates down to get
to them when he's that hungry).If feeding him once will be better
for him though and help keep the glands empty I'll have to be extra
watchful of him inside and outside. Is a dog's hunger more
psychological than physical?

Heather

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7b. Re: Anal gland problems
Posted by: "katkellm" katkellm@yahoo.com katkellm
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:49 am ((PST))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Heather" <newbeginnings06@...> wrote:
Is a dog's hunger more
> psychological than physical?

Hi Heather,
I don't know the exact answer to that, but what i can tell you is
that, imo, it is as necessary to meet a dog's psychological needs as
it is to meet his physical needs. I would always, with the exception
of health issues that require smaller more frequent meals, recommend
feeding a dog only once a day. Its not that twice is bad or harmful
or whatever, i have just found that my dogs, so maybe its only my
experience, do better on feeding once a day or even less frequently.
I know that my dogs are not going to raid the stalls looking for that
special horse turd if they are coming off a big meal. I would guess
that your dog was just cleaning himself off after loose stools. My
dog, Sid, did the scoots once upon a time- pre raw days-when he had
tape worms? coming out. In any case, i would recommend cutting down to
one meal a day and guarding what you don't want him to eat. After a
few weeks on once a day feeding, you might want to consider feeding
bigger meals and skipping an appropriate number of days after that big
meal. You could search the archives for gorge/fast or big meals to
help you decide. KathyM

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8a. feeding?
Posted by: "joan" joanlante@yahoo.ca joanlante
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:08 am ((PST))

is it ok to feed RAW once daily ???? when they ate kibble they use to
eat twice a day as I knew it went out as fast as it went in and I
figure RAW must need time to digest...I'm not too to found of playing
with raw meat so feeding once daily is what I've been doing..is this ok?

joan

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8b. Re: feeding?
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:39 am ((PST))

"joan" <joanlante@...> wrote:>
> is it ok to feed RAW once daily ????
*****
Yes, it's fine and it gives you the opportunity to feed bigger, more
complicated and rewarding meals.

What prevents you from feeding once a day (or less) should not be your
preconceived notions or expectations but rather the health and ability
of the dog. Most dogs do very well on one meal a day. I recommend
multiple meals for younger pups and older seniors and of course for any
dog with issues that warrant smaller more frequent meals.

I
> figure RAW must need time to digest
*****
Raw meat and bones need less time to digest. Cooking decreases
digestibility and grain is not processed well at all. A species
appropriate diet is highly digestible and generates less stool.

...I'm not too to found of playing
> with raw meat so feeding once daily is what I've been doing..is this
ok?
*****
I suspect you'll get over the discomfort as you see your dogs thrive on
the fruits of your labors. But even if not, once a day is fine.
Chris O

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9a. Re: Update on Ginger (diarrhea)
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:18 am ((PST))

"kkellogg22004" <kkellogg22004@...> wrote:
>> There is hope for change with open-minded vets like this one!
*****
Yeah, but only if they break off their love affair with steroids.
Chris O

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10a. Question about bones
Posted by: "Patty Linden" pattykat3@yahoo.com pattykat3
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:06 am ((PST))

Hi,
I started my little pomeranian (13 pounds) on the prey model diet about 3 months ago. At that time I had several questions (he had a history of pancreatitis), and this group was so very, very helpful :-) Mica (my pom) has been doing very well now (that his mom has caught on to not feeding him too much liver, too much food at a time, enough bone to balance out the meat, etc.) I have a question now about bones other than chicken that I can give him. When I first adopted Mica he had terrible teeth, and eventually had to have 6 extracted. Since eating raw, (as so many on this list have said would happen) his teeth are much whiter, his breath has changed from the smell of death to almost non-existent. My question is, will chewing on beef rib bones be good for his teeth? I don't want to be giving him a bone that can break his teeth. He loves beef. I haven't given him pork yet, but was wondering if there are any pork bones that would be safe for him to chew on. I
like the idea of giving him a big chunk of meat with bone so he can work on it.
Patty, owned by Mica--who is so grateful for this list :-))

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10b. Re: Question about bones
Posted by: "Sandee Lee" rlee@plix.com mariasmom2001
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:40 am ((PST))

Hi Patty,

So glad to hear he is doing well! :)) There really aren't going to be any
beef bones that will be good for his teeth. However, if you give him a slab
of ribs, the cleaning flossing action of ripping and tearing the meat from
those bones would be great fun and exercise. Just remove the bones once
that is accomplished.

He should be able to consume some pork bones...ribs, possibly part of the
shoulder. I know there are several small dog feeders on the list that feed
large chunks. You might be able to find some info in the archives if you do
a search on pugs or chi's.

Sandee & the Dane Gang

From: "Patty Linden" <pattykat3@yahoo.com>
> I started my little pomeranian (13 pounds) on the prey model diet
about 3 months ago. At that time I had several questions (he had a history
of pancreatitis), and this group was so very, very helpful :-) Mica (my
pom) has been doing very well now (that his mom has caught on to not feeding
him too much liver, too much food at a time, enough bone to balance out the
meat, etc.) I have a question now about bones other than chicken that I can
give him. When I first adopted Mica he had terrible teeth, and eventually
had to have 6 extracted. Since eating raw, (as so many on this list have
said would happen) his teeth are much whiter, his breath has changed from
the smell of death to almost non-existent. My question is, will chewing on
beef rib bones be good for his teeth? I don't want to be giving him a bone
that can break his teeth. He loves beef. I haven't given him pork yet, but
was wondering if there are any pork bones that would be safe for him to chew
on. I
> like the idea of giving him a big chunk of meat with bone so he can work
on it.

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10c. Re: Question about bones
Posted by: "Yasuko herron" sunshine_annamaria@yahoo.com sunshine_annamaria
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:44 am ((PST))

> My question is, will chewing on beef rib bones be good for his teeth?

Hi,Patty. It depends on dogs. Some people take bone away after dog eats all meat around bones but mine;Corgi 2 year old,can eat Beef Rib bone and consume all without any problems. So,I let her. If i give her about some minutes,she can make crack to the rib bone and start eating bone till gone. Now and then,she leaves sliver of bone bits for me to pick but not much.

I definitely do not give weight bearing bone;the leg part bone though;knuckle bone,feumer bone,and marrow bones.Getting bone is cheap but paying for teeth fixing is very costy.

I give Buffalo rib bone(of course with added meat to that) to palette and she eats fine.So,I let her.

If you wonder hardness of bone...

Buffalo rib and Beef rib are,I think about same hardness.THen,pork is quite soft and eats like sandwich.Goat rib bone is soft too;maybe softer than pork rib bone. Elk rib bones are in between beef and pork. Not too hard but not too soft either.Oh,Lamb ribs are as soft as goat ribs too.

Only bone mine cannot get dent is oxtail bone.THay one,I take bone away since I wait for palette work on bone but she seems make no progress.

As for Neck bone if you wonder,beef is hardest among pork and lamb and beef and goat that I feed but it is edible too.Not as hard as weight bearing bone.Mine eats all.Only occasionary leave some for me to pick up though. Pork neck,lamb neck is softer side.Goat neck is softest Neck bone that I feed. I think.

yassy

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11a. Re: First time shopping for raw - -wishme luck
Posted by: "homesforallpets" homesforallpets@yahoo.com homesforallpets
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:06 am ((PST))

I want to appologise first for my "steal it" comment. It was rude
and uncalled for. I'm under stress right now (my girls help me feel
better) and had gotten some not so nice emails privately from another
group. I should noth ave taken it out on this group.

> I am not sure what stores you have available in your area, but
perhaps
> this could be the case no matter where:
> I was staring at various cuts of this and that in the meat
department
> at our local Albertson's, and the butcher came out and asked what I
> was looking for. I told her I needed raw meat for my dogs, and she
> was DELIGHTED to clear out about 10# of her ground turkey for about
> 50cents/pound, rather than the usual $3 per pound, because it was
> going to be past its "sell by" date the next day.

I can check at Country Mart when I go Monday. They are having a big
meat sale that day. Ii will also be lucky and have $$ that day!

> If you are bold enough to let your butcher or meat department person
> know you can help him/her out by clearing out that stuff for them at
> LOW prices (maybe I should have asked for it for free?) maybe you
> could get a steady supply of at least some goodies at hand that
way.

I will talk to the meat person when I am there. You are right, you
never know what might happen if you ask.

> Who would have thought shopping for dog/cat food could turn into
such
> a 'treasure hunt?'

I know! I found a lone package of Wingettes yesterday and got them
for $1.73. There are I think 9 of them in the package. Maybe more,
its got logo junk all over most of it's packaging.

Kathy in MO
Angel & Holly - dogs Oreo & Turquoise - cats

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12a. Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD)
Posted by: "trayc2244" BreeZ119@catt.com trayc2244
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:42 am ((PST))

Is this something to worry about when feeding deer meat?

Thanks,
Tracy

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12b. Re: Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD)
Posted by: "Sandee Lee" rlee@plix.com mariasmom2001
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:54 am ((PST))

Tracy,

Not for dogs.

Sandee & the Dane Gang

From: "trayc2244" <BreeZ119@catt.com>

Is this something to worry about when feeding deer meat?

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12c. Re: Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD)
Posted by: "Joanne Thompson" tho0123@earthlink.net black_diamond_kennels
Date: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:19 am ((PST))

Tracy,

I live in Colorado and feed deer meat from CWD (and non CWD) areas. I
just don't feed the spines and brains, just to play it safe. CWD is not
a disease that canines are confirmed to contract.

Joanne Thompson
Black Diamond Kennels
Working Giant Schnauzers
Bellvue, CO 80512

trayc2244 wrote:
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> Is this something to worry about when feeding deer meat?
>
> Thanks,
> Tracy
>
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