[rawfeeding] Digest Number 12397

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Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: Need help with Irish Wolfhound and feeding raw
From: Andrea

2a. Re: {Raw Feeding} Scored!!! What do you think?
From: Brandi Bryant

3a. What do you do while camping or on vacation?
From: Carrin
3b. Re: What do you do while camping or on vacation?
From: Andrea
3c. Re: What do you do while camping or on vacation?
From: Tina Berry
3d. Re: What do you do while camping or on vacation?
From: adkjoe17
3e. Re: What do you do while camping or on vacation?
From: Kelly
3f. Re: What do you do while camping or on vacation?
From: krystal_brr

4a. weekly schedule
From: DebiC
4b. Re: weekly schedule
From: costrowski75

5a. Re: Please help me prepare to attend home butcher of 2 pigs....
From: costrowski75
5b. Re: Please help me prepare to attend home butcher of 2 pigs....
From: costrowski75

6a. Re: fasting question
From: Nora Lenz

7a. Re: Need help with puppy
From: Randy
7b. Re: Need help with puppy
From: Tina Berry
7c. Re: Need help with puppy
From: Tina Berry
7d. Re: Need help with puppy
From: Lauren Funaiole

8a. Re: VERY interested in RAW diet for Mastiff.
From: Susan Fortune

9a. Re: panting
From: Susan Fortune

10a. Feeding Liver
From: Lynette
10b. Re: Feeding Liver
From: Andrea

11a. Raw and Addison's disease
From: Joanne Thompson
11b. Re: Raw and Addison's disease
From: Felicia Kost

12a. Re: Relapse
From: Giselle

13. duck heads and small stuff
From: Felicia Kost

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1a. Re: Need help with Irish Wolfhound and feeding raw
Posted by: "Andrea" poketmouse45@yahoo.com poketmouse45
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:11 am ((PST))

The great thing about feeding a species appropriate diet is that all
breeds are part of the same species so there is no need to tweak the
diet for different breeds. At most you have to think about feeding
appropriately sized meals for each kind of dog (a newly switched Chi
may not be ready to tackle a pig's head).

Feed mostly meat, some bone, and some organ and you'll be doing fine.

Now as far as the IW not "wanting" what is served, tough. You put
down the day's meal and he eats it if he wants, if he doesn't it just
gets picked up and stashed for next day's feeding. No fussing, no
coaxing, just matter of factly. He'll soon get that you are the one
who decides the menu and he'll happily eat whatever you give him.

Andrea

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Kathryn Rowland"
<kerowland2005@...> wrote:

> I have a 4 1/2 irish wolfhound who I am trying to feed raw. I am
> concerned that I am missing the "basics" with him for his breed. I
> hope this makes sense. My newfoundlands have not skipped a beat in
> the transition but my IW is having difficulties. He only wants
> chicken backs or ground beef!

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2a. Re: {Raw Feeding} Scored!!! What do you think?
Posted by: "Brandi Bryant" bbryant573@gmail.com bbryant573
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:15 am ((PST))

>>>The beef heart is reasonable. Check your supermarket sales.<<<

What I have been doing is going to Homeland just down the street and making
a mental notes of when their stuff is about to expire and then go in on that
day at 6 in the morning and hit the mark down prices....and they also
usually have cut up turkey's - lik turkey legs, breasts etc...for like
.99/lbs. I can get pork shoulders for $1.12/lb and I can get whole chicken
for .82/lbs at Wal Mart. So my basic dogs diet is whole chicken, turkey
legs, breats and an occasional pork should and pork chops (with out the
bones) - I can now add beef hearts to that diet - but aren't I feeding too
much bone???

Oh and question I'm going to be ordering from prey4pets - whole chicken with
feathers etc...on the description they said that they euthanize their
animals by CO2 - do they bleed them out after that...and when I get whole
birds can I keep them in the freezer and then let it thaw before giving them
to the dogs??? How do I encourage my dogs to go ahead and dig into a
chicken with feathers? I think my GSD puppy isn't going to have a problem
but my other 3 I think might look at me a little wierd.... any suggestions?

Thanks again for the suggestions...
Brandi

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3a. What do you do while camping or on vacation?
Posted by: "Carrin" mntgrl_2000@yahoo.com mntgrl_2000
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:15 am ((PST))

This has been on my mind...brand new to raw feeding btw.

What do you all do while on vacation? We go camping a lot, and live
out of a cooler. How would I feed my dog raw on trips like this?
Would I have to bring a separate cooler just for dog meat?

Also, what about kenneling? Do most kennel operators react well to
feeding raw for their clients?

Thanks,
Carrin

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3b. Re: What do you do while camping or on vacation?
Posted by: "Andrea" poketmouse45@yahoo.com poketmouse45
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:50 am ((PST))

Camping is generally easy to do for short trips (a week or less).
First off you can feed the dogs big meals before heading out so they
don't need to eat the first day or so. Feed from a big hunk of food
that starts out frozen solid (pork shoulder or similar).

But the last time we went camping Geiger refused to eat much of the
food we brought after getting a taste of the fresh fish we caught.
He even ran into the creek and attempted to catch his own fish.

As far as kennels, some may give you a problem, yes. But many are
really accepting of "special diets" for the dogs. As long as you
make things really simple for them it shouldn't be a problem. If you
can't find any accepting kennels in the area, there is always a pet
sitter. Personally I'd rather have a pet sitter stay with my boys.

Andrea

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Carrin" <mntgrl_2000@...> wrote:

> What do you all do while on vacation? We go camping a lot, and
> live out of a cooler. How would I feed my dog raw on trips like
> this? Would I have to bring a separate cooler just for dog meat?
>
> Also, what about kenneling? Do most kennel operators react well to
> feeding raw for their clients?

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3c. Re: What do you do while camping or on vacation?
Posted by: "Tina Berry" k9baron@gmail.com k9antje
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:01 am ((PST))

Would I have to bring a separate cooler just for dog meat? Yes
Also, what about kenneling? Do most kennel operators react well to
feeding raw for their clients?

I gave our kennel pre-packaged frozen meals that they could feed frozen to
each dog.
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Tina Berry - MT
Kriegshund German Shepherds
Working Lines ~ Naturally Reared
www.kriegshundgsds.com

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3d. Re: What do you do while camping or on vacation?
Posted by: "adkjoe17" j2dope17@yahoo.com adkjoe17
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:20 am ((PST))

Tina Berry wrote:
>
> Would I have to bring a separate cooler just for dog meat?

Tina,
I backpack with my dog for weeks at a time. In the past I used to
just suck it up and carry the extra weight of raw food for her which
wasn't to bad because she can carry a lot of her own food in her own
pack. Recently since I got a new pack member who is to little to
carry her own food I started dehydrating raw food for the girls
while on the trail. Depending how long your going to be out you can
dehydrate 10lb of chicken and it will turn into 2-3lb (you can see
where i'm going with this) You can either rehydrate by soaking in
water or you can just feed it to them dehydrated. If you don't have
a dehydrator, for $90-$100 you can get a top grade one and it will
soon pay for itself in a matter of weeks, mine shure did. One of
the best investments I have ever made. If thats out of the question
your oven and a fan will do the trick. If your only car camping
then bring an extra cooler.

Joe

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3e. Re: What do you do while camping or on vacation?
Posted by: "Kelly" kelism@gmail.com vt_stuff
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:32 am ((PST))

On 12/19/07, Carrin <mntgrl_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Would I have to bring a separate cooler just for dog meat?

Well, my version of camping is probably very different than most, but...

When we go, we pack an extra cooler and bring everything frozen. This works
fine for a long weekend. But, we also have a little mini camper that has a
fridge in it. There isn't really a freezer, but if we throw frozen meat in
the "freezer" part of it, it will stay frozen for awhile. So, with a longer
trip, we usually use the fridge instead of a cooler.

But, we also aren't afraid to go to a grocery store mid-trip if we need to
and have been known to camp in a not too rural area and get take out, so
your mileage may vary.

--
Kelly

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3f. Re: What do you do while camping or on vacation?
Posted by: "krystal_brr" rkbarr@hughes.net krystal_brr
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:31 am ((PST))

This has been on my mind, too. We have been rawfeeding for a couple of
months, so we were already past our backpacking trips when we started.
But I was wondering what I am going to do next year. We are typically
gone for 3-4 days, and obviously do not take a cooler with us. I use a
lot of dehydrated stuff for us, so was wondering about figuring out the
same for dogs.

Anyone with some experience?

Krystal

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4a. weekly schedule
Posted by: "DebiC" dcole6@satx.rr.com scarlet_debi
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:16 am ((PST))

I'd just like to run this by you all to see what you think.

I'm feeding my two JRTs (12 and 14 lbs) on a weekly schedule. It may vary a bit but this is the basic rotation.

1 chicken hind quarter
2 pork neck bones
3 organ meat (chicken liver, beef liver or kidney)
4 chicken hind quarter
5 hamburger or stewmeat
6 pork neck bones
7 beef heart

I can afford this and think it gives them some variety. What about fish? I found some frozen whole sardines in a bag but haven't fed fish before. Maybe instead of chicken so often the fish would be good in the mix?

Debi, 2 Jacks and an App

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4b. Re: weekly schedule
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:27 am ((PST))

"DebiC" <dcole6@...> wrote:
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> I'm feeding my two JRTs (12 and 14 lbs) on a weekly schedule. It
may vary a bit but this is the basic rotation.
*****
I expect when you are more comfortable with feeding raw and realize
your JRTs are not going to break you'll not worry so much about plans
and schedules and weekly feeding agendas. If this is what you need
now, that's fine. The virtue of a weekly schedule is there are no
suprises. The drawback of a weekly schedule is there are no
surprises.

Please do not allow your need for organization to blind you to lovely
unexpected opportunities. Keep your eyes open for lamb and goat.
Always consider seasonally cheap turkey. Look for pig and lamb heart
as well as beef; also consider pork liver and spleen. Definitely
feed more pork than just bony necks. Look for less expensive cuts of
beef. Consider whole chickens and feeding through them so as to vary
the eating challenges.

> 1 chicken hind quarter
> 2 pork neck bones
> 3 organ meat (chicken liver, beef liver or kidney)
> 4 chicken hind quarter
> 5 hamburger or stewmeat
> 6 pork neck bones
> 7 beef heart
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I recommend you remove a Pork Neck Bones Day and replace it with
meat; there's hardly a menu alive that won't benefit from adding
meat.

You might want to consider deleting the Organ Meat Day and instead
divvy up those organs into the other days' menus. Feeding a whole
meal of organs unless your dogs are already adjusted to the idea is
setting them up for the squirts. While not necessarily "bad", the
squirts are a PITA when you are trying to adjust to raw feeding. The
Organ Meat Day can become another meat day or you can feed a meaty
body part.

What about fish? I found some frozen whole sardines in a bag but
haven't fed fish before. Maybe instead of chicken so often the fish
would be good in the mix?
*****
Fish can definitely be a source of high quality protein variety, if
your dogs buy into the notion. Whole sardines would be great but you
should introduce them (and fish in general) gently. Overnight fish
explosions are not fun to wake up to. Been there, done that.
Chris O

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5a. Re: Please help me prepare to attend home butcher of 2 pigs....
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:50 am ((PST))

"Randy" <rrostie@...> wrote:>
> I looked up tripe on Wikipedia before I posted my original reply and
> it says "Tripe is also produced from sheep, goats, and pigs."
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I checked plus/minus 20 google entries and the prevailing description
is the stomach lining (also "part of the stomach", "a stomach") of a
ruminant. Specifics include "especially bovine", "ox".

Goat and sheep are mentioned as is pig, but citations for goat and
sheep outnumber pig and in virtually every case "ruminant" is the
operant term.

Given the skewed information Wiki offers on raw feeding, I'd say
sometimes it is advisable to check more than one reference.

For an acquirer of dog food, if price per pound and/or space is an
issue, pass on pig stomach. If it's free and storage space is no
object, take everything and let the dog decide what's useful.
Chris O

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5b. Re: Please help me prepare to attend home butcher of 2 pigs....
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:01 am ((PST))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, m td <mtd885@...> wrote:>
> I believe they are called chitterlings pronounced
> 'chitlins'
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Chitlins are intestines. All cleaned up tidy and packed into big
bucket for deep frying and slathering with hot sauce. Chitlins like
grits are fabulous blank canvases on which to paint flavors.
Chris O

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6a. Re: fasting question
Posted by: "Nora Lenz" nmlenz@speakeasy.net rawnora
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:00 am ((PST))

Hi Andrea,
Thanks for asking. Here are some links to informative articles about
fasting:

ttp://www.rawfoodexplained.com/introduction-to-fasting/
http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020127shelton.III/020127.toc.htm
http://www.gaianstudies.org/articles4.htm

There is lots more, if you need it. Happy reading. :)

Best wishes,
Nora

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7a. Re: Need help with puppy
Posted by: "Randy" rrostie@gmail.com rjrostie
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:00 am ((PST))

The Lhasa is 15 - 17 pounds, so does 1/2 pound or a little more each
day for at least the first week sound ok? One quarter is 8 to 10 ounces.
I was thinking I would continue to feed her twice a day for now.

She has some skin conditions (missing hair,) and I have to clean mucus
out of her eyes every day so I have high hopes a raw diet will help her.

Randy R

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> How much food pups need varies quite a bit, but 1.5# per day does seem
> like too much for an adult Llasa. Unless your Llasa is huge, less than
> a pound per day would be a more reasonable amount. I would skip a meal
> for both dogs and allow their systems to rest, and then resume with
> smaller amounts and a bit less fat. Then work back up to an appropriate
> amount without removing fat.
>
> --Carrie
>

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7b. Re: Need help with puppy
Posted by: "Tina Berry" k9baron@gmail.com k9antje
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:01 am ((PST))

"I also feed our 15 year old Lhasa Apso 1.5 pounds of chicken a day, over
two meals and she is having similar problems."

I agree with the too much food; my 90lbers get 1.5 per day. Keep feeding
whole parts, just less of it.
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Kriegshund German Shepherds
Working Lines ~ Naturally Reared
www.kriegshundgsds.com

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7c. Re: Need help with puppy
Posted by: "Tina Berry" k9baron@gmail.com k9antje
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:19 am ((PST))

"The Lhasa is 15 - 17 pounds, so does 1/2 pound or a little more each day
for at least the first week sound ok? One quarter is 8 to 10 ounces. I was
thinking I would continue to feed her twice a day for now."

Even at 17 lbs 2% of body weight is .34 lb and 3% is 1/2 lb which is a total
of 8oz per day. I wouldn't feed her any more than that - and once a day for
an adult is actually better - it gives their organs time to rest - 2xdaily
isn't necessary. You could give a treat for the second meal so she didn't
feel she was skipping a total meal if it makes you feel better.
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Tina Berry - MT
Kriegshund German Shepherds
Working Lines ~ Naturally Reared
www.kriegshundgsds.com

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7d. Re: Need help with puppy
Posted by: "Lauren Funaiole" LFUNAIOL@SIMIVALLEY.ORG lfunaiol
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:19 am ((PST))

Randy,

Eight ounces for the Lhasa sounds about right. My 20-lb terrier eats about 8 ounces a day. However, splitting that into 2 meals a day would result in ridiculously small meals. Why bother? Your just making more work for yourself and asking for a choking issue.

Lauren Funaiole

>>> "Randy" <rrostie@gmail.com> 12/19/2007 7:28 AM >>>

The Lhasa is 15 - 17 pounds, so does 1/2 pound or a little more each
day for at least the first week sound ok? One quarter is 8 to 10 ounces.
I was thinking I would continue to feed her twice a day for now.
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8a. Re: VERY interested in RAW diet for Mastiff.
Posted by: "Susan Fortune" desperatelyseekingsusan@cox.net cactususan
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:01 am ((PST))

IMO, you can't afford not to feed raw. A $400. dental cleaning fee the vet quoted will go a long way to feed a dog if you spend it on the food (natural brushing), not the dental.

The $400 quoted was for my 13 year-old, 9# min-pin who used to have a nasty mouth.

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Southern California

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9a. Re: panting
Posted by: "Susan Fortune" desperatelyseekingsusan@cox.net cactususan
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:01 am ((PST))

Too much food.

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10a. Feeding Liver
Posted by: "Lynette" lraefried@sbcglobal.net cherrysmomma
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:19 am ((PST))

Do livers from different animals have different nutrients? Just
wondering if I find one liver that she likes(beef) if feeding only
that kind will be fine?

Also, do I need to feed stuff like tripe,lungs,trachea in order for
her body to be healthy?

Lynette

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10b. Re: Feeding Liver
Posted by: "Andrea" poketmouse45@yahoo.com poketmouse45
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:30 am ((PST))

> Do livers from different animals have different nutrients?

A little, but not really enough to stress about. You can check out the
specifics if at this website:
http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search
Just type in "raw liver" and you can compare nutrients in livers from
different animals.

> Also, do I need to feed stuff like tripe,lungs,trachea in order for
> her body to be healthy?

You want to have some "other" organs in the diet. Liver is the
behemoth so that's the one you want to make sure you get. Everything
else is good if you can get it. Mostly I use kidney, spleen, and
sweetbreads as the "other" organs. Also eyeballs and such in the head
are considered other organs.

Andrea

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11a. Raw and Addison's disease
Posted by: "Joanne Thompson" tho0123@earthlink.net black_diamond_kennels
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:41 am ((PST))

Does anyone have experience in feeding their Addison's dog a raw diet or
switching them over once they've been diagnosed?

Joanne Thompson
Black Diamond Kennels
Working Giant Schnauzers
Bellvue, CO 80512

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11b. Re: Raw and Addison's disease
Posted by: "Felicia Kost" saphiradane@yahoo.com saphiradane
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:30 am ((PST))

Hi, I do not have personal exp. with Addisons disease but a friend of mine does. She had an italian greyhound diagnosed with Addisons and she decided to try raw. The vet was not happy to say the least. However after several months the dog was much improved and looked like a picture of health. She was also able to decrease all medications and even elimante some. She was not prey model fed but it was ground meat and RMB 's. I don't recall her feeding her any differently than the other dogs on raw. They were all happy with the transition, even the vet in the end.
Felicia

. Does anyone have experience in feeding their Addison's dog a raw diet or
switching them over once they've been diagnosed?

Joanne Thompson
Black Diamond Kennels
Working Giant Schnauzers
Bellvue, CO 80512

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12a. Re: Relapse
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:08 am ((PST))

Hi, Cathy!
Sometimes with IBD/IBS there just isn't any reason that you
can put your finger on for a flare!

I was going to post essentially the same thing as Casey; 'cept I think since
the SEBP mixture isn't needed for mouth ulcers and is meant to go into the
stomach, you could just whisk up a thick liquid or even a paste and place it
in her mouth with a medicine dropper or your finger. Unless there's a
possibility that Dinky might like the SEBP syrup better? I'd use broth to
make some syrup, to try out.

I would definitely frequently offer plain ls/lf broth, either chicken or
beef - or made from any other type of meat she likes and tolerates well, if
you're going to cook it up yourself. I'd offer it slightly warmed, about
body temp, in tiny amounts.

OT - ^_^ Making a "Fasting" meat broth is a great use for those cut up
supermarket w/rec/k marrow bones or oxtails or chicken necks that are too
bony or small for a real meal. Don't add aromatics or seasonings like you
would for human broth, and skim the fat off after you remove the bones and
skin and it has set and cooled for a little while. You can even use a whole
chicken or turkey carcass after you have carved most of the meatymeat off,
and feed the meatymeat to the other dogs as boneless meals. If you make a
great big pot, you can freeze small amounts in plastic containers or baggies
for when you need broth in a hurry.

TC
Giselle

On Dec 19, 2007 8:42 AM, Casey Post <mikken@neo.rr.com> wrote:

> Cathy,
>
> So sorry to hear about Dink's setback!
>
> I have a similar situation with a little old cat who gets severely
> constipated (and it's bad - non-stop vomiting, unable to rest, in pain,
> etc. - very hard on a little old cat). Slippery elm is a huge help with
> her
> (along with subQ fluids), but she HATES it. So I make up a syrup of it
> (http://www.felinecrf.org/holistic_treatments.htm#SEB_syrup_recipe) and
> eyedropper it into her. No, she's not thrilled with the process, but it
> makes her feel so much better, it's worth it.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Casey
>
>

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13. duck heads and small stuff
Posted by: "Felicia Kost" saphiradane@yahoo.com saphiradane
Date: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:29 am ((PST))

Hi, I was wondering if duck heads would be ok to feed a great dane. I know they are ideally to small but they were free and she is a very careful eater. I chews and crunches very well. Thought I would ask before I feed them. It is sometimes difficult finding large enough food for her mouth size, so where do I draw the line with things that are to small? She has never had any problems so far.
Thanks Felicia

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