[rawfeeding] Digest Number 12370

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Addendum: This Week's Meat Sales
From: Susan Fortune

2a. Re: feeding kidney....help!
From: Morledzep@aol.com
2b. Re: feeding kidney....help!
From: Lauren Funaiole

3a. 2nd type of 'Agression"
From: Tracy Meal
3b. Re: 2nd type of 'Agression"
From: Chia
3c. Re: 2nd type of 'Agression"
From: Virginia Snider
3d. Re: 2nd type of 'Agression"
From: Michelle Morgan

4a. beef ribs
From: tiffany.contempopainting
4b. Re: beef ribs
From: Giselle
4c. Re: beef ribs
From: woofwoofgrrl
4d. Re: beef ribs
From: Lauren Funaiole
4e. Re: beef ribs
From: Yasuko herron

5a. Re: do you feed once or twice a day?
From: Virginia Snider
5b. Re: do you feed once or twice a day?
From: Mary Tinder
5c. Was: do you feed once or twice a day? Now: to gain weight
From: Giselle
5d. Re: do you feed once or twice a day?
From: Scott Baker

6a. Re: Pork Kidney, Turkey Giblets, etc.
From: Shelly
6b. Re: Pork Kidney, Turkey Giblets, etc.
From: Yasuko herron
6c. Re: Pork Kidney, Turkey Giblets, etc.
From: Erika

7a. Re: Grinders
From: Candee Brey

8. I have Cresteds too!
From: Michelle R

9a. Re: Once or twice a day..feeding
From: Sai Simonson
9b. Re: Once or twice a day..feeding
From: Scott Baker

10. Raw diet influencing behavior
From: Sai Simonson

11a. Re: An abundance of gas
From: costrowski75

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1. Addendum: This Week's Meat Sales
Posted by: "Susan Fortune" desperatelyseekingsusan@cox.net cactususan
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:04 pm ((PST))

Stater's: also has whole Foster Farms Chicken; $89. per #!

Stater's: Foster Farms Chicken half-breasts with ribs; $.99 per #.
Foster Farms Chicken leg quarters; $.89 per #.
Pork butt roast $.99 per #.
Pork shoulder roast, picnic style $.99 per #.

Ad prices good Wednesday, December 12 through Tuesday December 18.

Albertson's: nothing of interest

Ralph's: nothing of interest

Von's: nothing of interest

Susan
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2a. Re: feeding kidney....help!
Posted by: "Morledzep@aol.com" Morledzep@aol.com morledzep
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:04 pm ((PST))

In a message dated 12/12/2007 2:30:54 PM Pacific Standard Time,
patti.h310@yahoo.com writes:

We're on all the basics...pork,
beef, chicken, lamb, and liver (which is almost impossible to get him
to eat unless it's hidden). How much kidney? How often? Is it a
muscle or organ?

Patti,

it's an organ.. my dogs have never had any problem with new food or new
organs for that matter. Except one time i gave my 8 month old akita a whole kidney
and it was a case of too much too soon.

for smaller dogs i would cut it in quarters and add to a regular meal, or for
larger dogs i would cut it in half and give with a regular meal.

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2b. Re: feeding kidney....help!
Posted by: "Lauren Funaiole" LFUNAIOL@SIMIVALLEY.ORG lfunaiol
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:04 pm ((PST))

Hi Patti,

Kidneys are organs and should be part of the approximate 10% of the overall diet. That's approximate, so don't overthink this. However, if he's never had kidney before, you might want to cut it into 3 or 4 pieces and introduce it gradually into his diet. Organs can cause diarrhea in large amounts, especially if the dog is unfamiliar with them. Once he's up to speed, you could probably give him a kidney a week or so.

Lauren Funaiole

>>> "patti.h310" <patti.h310@yahoo.com> 12/12/2007 12:42 PM >>>

We've been raw now for several months and I finally found beef
kidney......now what!!?? Finnigan is 50lbs and pretty active so he
does well with 1.5lbs of food per day. We're on all the basics...pork,
beef, chicken, lamb, and liver (which is almost impossible to get him
to eat unless it's hidden). How much kidney? How often? Is it a
muscle or organ?

Thanks,
Patti

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3a. 2nd type of 'Agression"
Posted by: "Tracy Meal" hiddenpoetinme1@yahoo.com hiddenpoetinme1
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:36 pm ((PST))

HI, miz_debi

>> Has anyone else heard this. I don't believe its true, but what's the
concensus here.

I have a couple rotties and people ask me all the time when they find out I am feeding raw if my dogs are more aggressive. "Absolutely not", I tell them. They are sweet as ever and well fed to boot.

Tracy

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3b. Re: 2nd type of 'Agression"
Posted by: "Chia" chia.m@shaw.ca cia22m
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:47 pm ((PST))

I have a couple rotties and people ask me all the time when they find out
I am feeding raw if my dogs are more aggressive. "Absolutely not", I tell
them. They are sweet as ever and well fed to boot.
#### dogs fed raw, within a few months usually, become more 'normal' as
it were.

SO, if they were hyper, they may calm down, if they were super sedentary,
they may become more energetic. Due to being fed appropriately, perhaps
finally completely satisfied, they function as a healthy, robust dog should.

The chemicals, sugars and inappropriate additives in commercial food would
certainly be more harmful to a dog then fresh, natural food high in water
content. As usual, people's ignorance from years of petfood propaganda and
media saturation would be laughable if it wasn't so tragic.

Chia & Ricco

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3c. Re: 2nd type of 'Agression"
Posted by: "Virginia Snider" vsnider@cogeco.ca rawbglass
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:34 pm ((PST))

>> Has anyone else heard this. I don't believe its true, but what's the
concensus here.

Hi,

I hear it all the time.me and my vicious Pug :-)

Virginia

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3d. Re: 2nd type of 'Agression"
Posted by: "Michelle Morgan" enzo@whereismichelle.com enzoinub
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:43 pm ((PST))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Debi C" <dcole6@...> wrote:
>People are always telling me that feeding raw will make a dog
> aggressive.>

They are absolutely right. My Caucasian Ovcharkas (all raw fed for the
past 7 years) are much more aggressive than other people's... When
Citibank stock plummeted, Enzo, our oldest male, kept pushing me to buy
more, more, more. Driving Barynya to the vet is a nightmare... she
keeps rolling down the window and shouting "Outta Da Way Fathead!!" -
at traffic cops. Tsitsilia pushed Ebbie and Lucky off her favorite spot
on the porch the other day and told them if they didn't like it, they
could go sit on a de-matting comb. Even our baby Dima, who pretends to
be a loving, snuggly, 170 lbs of fluff, cannot be trusted with
children. Every time the neighborhood kids get a new ball, she pops it
with her teeth just to watch them cry.

Anyways, that's what I tell people when they ask me if feeding a dog
properly will make it into a bloodthirsty maniac :-)

Michelle

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4a. beef ribs
Posted by: "tiffany.contempopainting" tiffcurran@gmail.com tiffany.contempopainting
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:36 pm ((PST))

Hi everyone. I have another question that I need answered by the pros.a local store has beef ribs on sale for .69 lb. That is really good for my area. I want to stock up but I am new to this so I am not sure if the bones are to hard. If I did feed it I would add some boneless meat to it. Does that sound good or should I stay away from them. Thanks in advance.
Tiffany

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4b. Re: beef ribs
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:52 pm ((PST))

Hi, Tiffany!
I wouldn't classify them as edible bone. They are too dense
and bony and fatty to feed as a meal. But, you could feed them with added
meatymeat.

I do buy them, but use them sparingly as a "busy" placeholder for the day or
two after a Big Food or Gorge meal. I generally feed them in slabs of 3-4
together. They do a great job of giving my girl the feeling that she's
having a meal, plus she gets 'flossing' time.

Once the bones are bare, out they go, into the trash!

You might also want to look out for the smaller chunks of bone at the ends.
If my Bea swallows them, she horks them up hours later, totally undigested.

TC
Giselle
with Bea in New Jersey

On Dec 12, 2007 6:34 PM, tiffany.contempopainting <tiffcurran@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi everyone. I have another question that I need answered by the pros. A
> local store has beef ribs on sale for .69 lb. That is really good for my
> area. I want to stock up but I am new to this so I am not sure if the bones
> are too hard. If I did feed it I would add some boneless meat to it. Does
> that sound good or should I stay away from them? Thanks in advance.
> Tiffany
>
>

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4c. Re: beef ribs
Posted by: "woofwoofgrrl" cmc4lists1@gastrounit.com woofwoofgrrl
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:55 pm ((PST))

My dogs LOVE beef ribs! They are engaging for them to eat and I leave a
couple for the puppy to gnaw on after the meat is all gone. As long as
you don't mind picking up the bones when the dogs have decided they are
no longer worthwhile, they're great!

Christine

tiffany.contempopainting wrote:
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> Hi everyone. I have another question that I need answered by the pros.a
> local store has beef ribs on sale for .69 lb. That is really good for my
> area. I want to stock up but I am new to this so I am not sure if the
> bones are to hard. If I did feed it I would add some boneless meat to
> it. Does that sound good or should I stay away from them. Thanks in advance.
> Tiffany
>
>

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4d. Re: beef ribs
Posted by: "Lauren Funaiole" LFUNAIOL@SIMIVALLEY.ORG lfunaiol
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:55 pm ((PST))

Hi Tiffany,

Beef ribs are too hard for most dogs to eat, so don't count on them as part of the edible bone portion of your dog's diet. That IS a good price for them. I would go ahead and buy some. Feed them in big intact slabs of ribs and don't count the bone as part of their portion. In other words, feed a bigger piece than you would of something that is completely edible. If your dog normally eats 1 pound of food, give him 2 pounds of beef ribs. When he's done tearing the ribs apart and has eaten all of the meat off the bones, take them away from him.

Lauren Funaiole

>>> "tiffany.contempopainting" <tiffcurran@gmail.com> 12/12/2007 3:34 PM >>>

Hi everyone. I have another question that I need answered by the pros.a local store has beef ribs on sale for .69 lb. That is really good for my area. I want to stock up but I am new to this so I am not sure if the bones are to hard. If I did feed it I would add some boneless meat to it. Does that sound good or should I stay away from them. Thanks in advance.
Tiffany

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4e. Re: beef ribs
Posted by: "Yasuko herron" sunshine_annamaria@yahoo.com sunshine_annamaria
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:38 pm ((PST))

>Once the bones are bare, out they go, into the trash

Really?? Palette might want it to send here so that she can eat!!

She very rarely leave some Beef rib bone but,most of the time,she crunch down well and eat it all.... Her jaw power is extraordinare???

She eats fine Buffalo ribs,Elk ribs...It takes time but she eats all most of time.If she leaves,maybe pinky finger sized shredded ones one or two pieces.that is about it.

She usually leave almost all bone for oxtail though..It seems little hard for her. She nibble some but sheleaves most after some tackling and she gives up.

If I saw too much glob of white fat in it,I tend to take it off some.

talking of ribs,she had Elk ribs and,she is tired from it,andnapping upstairs alone...

She was holding the bones with paws and stripping the silver skin-like with front teeth,and it was cute.

After the tiring meal,she did not leave the shower curtain mat but laied on side. So,I was rubbing her on the matt...She would sleep deep tonight.

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5a. Re: do you feed once or twice a day?
Posted by: "Virginia Snider" vsnider@cogeco.ca rawbglass
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:55 pm ((PST))

Hi,

I figured out how much he gets a day and used to split it up into 2
meals at first. He always seemed hungry but I think it was the taste and
aroma of the real food. Then there were days he didn't eat at all and then
out of the blue he'd trot over to his dish, wanting to be fed. Over time he
started showing no interest in the morning so now it's only at dinner. I
figured he knew better than me when he wanted to eat so I let him self
adjust :-)

Virginia

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5b. Re: do you feed once or twice a day?
Posted by: "Mary Tinder" mtinder@tinderco.com mmmaryt
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:12 pm ((PST))

What about when a dog needs to gain weight. Feed more often or just
more at the one feeding?
Mary T
> So my question is, do most feed their adult dogs one or two times a
day ..............
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> even on kibble no adult dog needs to be fed more than once a day.

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5c. Was: do you feed once or twice a day? Now: to gain weight
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:28 pm ((PST))

Hi, Mary!
The recommendation is to feed more meals per day, with more
meatymeat added and fattier meats, to bowel tolerance.

If you feed more at a meal, it often can trigger cannon butt, leading
to dehydration, not to weight gain.

Also, try to aim for a small, but steady weight gain, not to pack on
as much weight as possible in a short time.

TC
Giselle
with Bea in New Jersey

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Mary Tinder" <mtinder@...> wrote:
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> What about when a dog needs to gain weight? Feed more often or just
> more at the one feeding?
> Mary T

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5d. Re: do you feed once or twice a day?
Posted by: "Scott Baker" scottsbaker@gmail.com scottpsbaker
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:35 pm ((PST))

Feed more overall.

On Dec 12, 2007 8:58 PM, Mary Tinder <mtinder@tinderco.com> wrote:

> What about when a dog needs to gain weight. Feed more often or just
> more at the one feeding?
> Mary T
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6a. Re: Pork Kidney, Turkey Giblets, etc.
Posted by: "Shelly" StuartLittle@comcast.net stuartjeanlittle
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:12 pm ((PST))

I think it's fine to feed organs from the same animal most the time, I feed
mostly beef (because that's what's readily accessible for me, and Lady
doesn't like chicken), but heart is not an organ for feeding purposes, it's a
muscle.

Shelly

On Wednesday 12 December 2007 15:24, redangelbordeaux wrote:

Like feeding Beef Heart, Pork Kidney and Turkey liver and then rotate
species organ type? Or is an organ just and organ and could feed all
organs from same animal all the time?

Thanks a bunch!

Erika

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6b. Re: Pork Kidney, Turkey Giblets, etc.
Posted by: "Yasuko herron" sunshine_annamaria@yahoo.com sunshine_annamaria
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:09 pm ((PST))

> could feed all organs from same animal all the time?

It is ok to feed organ not same with meat kind.It does not matter. Point is,if the dog has no issue with poo-wise and digest very well those organs,you can feed any organs anytime you want.It is just better to stick with 10% guideline.

Heart is very nutritious item but it is not organ and it is part of 80% guideline;you can think as same category to normal meat.

for example,here is my dog menu for one day

Beef cheek meat,Turkey gizzard,Tripe and lamb neck with added lamb meat

Her neal is mixed.That is ok.

I know some people feed tripe as tripe only meat,but I am using as side dish-like.

Sometimes,I feed from same kind of meat;I am roating between poultry giblet thing and liver kidney from 4 legged animals within week,occasionary,it is fed with same kind meat like ...one day of my dog meal..

Beef Heart,Beef liver and kidney,Egg,Turkey.

Both fine. As long as dog can torelate liver you feed,you can mix and match however you like.

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6c. Re: Pork Kidney, Turkey Giblets, etc.
Posted by: "Erika" Erika@redangelbordeaux.com redangelbordeaux
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:38 pm ((PST))

Thanks everyone. I guess I should have said "internal bits" instead of organs, lol. I understand that heart is considered a muscle meat as is gizzard, Beef heart is my main meaty meat around here. Very dense and chewie a great workout which is building there massive head size along with being good for them ;)

I fed everyone a quarter of a kidney so we shal see how it all comes out, lol.

Erika

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7a. Re: Grinders
Posted by: "Candee Brey" candee@netnet.net candeeloubrey
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:34 pm ((PST))

This web site carries very nice reconditioned grinders.

http://www.naturmix.com/pages/products/grinders.html

Candee
On Dec 12, 2007, at 6:55 AM, Fay wrote:

> I have recently adopted a dog who has only a few teeth left. Is
> there a
> recommended grinder that will handle chicken bones,etc?
>
> Thanks,
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> Fay
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8. I have Cresteds too!
Posted by: "Michelle R" crested_dog8@yahoo.com crested_dog8
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:35 pm ((PST))

I have tons of cresteds..email me anytime. I will help in whatever way I can.
As for bones, my kids devour them...I have one who is a gulper, but she is also the one I have with no teeth, so I just pop a whole chicken in the grinder and she gets her bone content that way, without trying to swallow a bone whole..she is surprisingly able to pull meat off a large bone quite well, she just cant eat the actual bone. My kids have had duck, chicken, venison, turkey, eggs and love pork kidneys and hearts. I only have 2 who refuse to eat liver, they dont care what I do to it or with it...flat out will NOT eat it.
Tonites menu contains half chicken and half duck.....they LOVE both. :-)
As for having my favorite kids on the planet.....Where are you? Do you show? do I know you? :-) Inquiring minds, ya know!

Hope this helps and do email me on or offlist anytime. :-)

Michelle Radcliff
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9a. Re: Once or twice a day..feeding
Posted by: "Sai Simonson" saiczarina@comcast.net keikokat
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:35 pm ((PST))

Moat interesting.
Now when is the one feeding best....I am guessing morning as something
about not digesting at night, or is that just for growing puppies??

Sai
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### they quickly get over the expected feeding time when you eliminate
it. It's just habit and they adjust fast!

My dog will eat a huge meal one day, and sometimes not eat for the next
day or two, essentially eating 3-5 times per week depending on what the
meals are. Kind of like nature, right?.. They stretch those stomach walls
as nature designed... then empty them completely. VERY healthy....every dog
is different however, and dogs fed raw for a longer period of time almost
self regulate this way as they become content with proper nutrition for the
first time in their lives.

C hia & Ricco

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9b. Re: Once or twice a day..feeding
Posted by: "Scott Baker" scottsbaker@gmail.com scottpsbaker
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:55 pm ((PST))

Change it up. Keep them guessing. Sometimes i feed at noon, sometimes at
supper, sometimes later. sometimes early. No set time.

On Dec 12, 2007 9:31 PM, Sai Simonson <saiczarina@comcast.net> wrote:

> Moat interesting.
> Now when is the one feeding best....I am guessing morning as something
> about not digesting at night, or is that just for growing puppies??
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10. Raw diet influencing behavior
Posted by: "Sai Simonson" saiczarina@comcast.net keikokat
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:08 pm ((PST))

The all raw diet has turned my gentle,leaning 110 lb recently neutered
Borzoi into a snarling protector. This morning on the walk a very large
(about 100 lb male) came tearing out to the street snapping and barking
at my Zoi girl and me. Lexi roared into action. I have only heard him
bark a couple times in his nine years, but he barked, snarled, and then
lunged to the end of my sweetie's leash with many teeth showing. Being a
strong male,Hank held on to Lexi and the intruder was snagged by his
owner. Meanwhile, the whole incident stopped the flow of traffic on what
we call the Southgate Freeway....a very narrow neighborhood street that
is the shortcut to the High School at the end of the block.

Sai
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Well of course it's the raw diet, and that is so not off topic:)
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11a. Re: An abundance of gas
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:52 pm ((PST))

"Susanne MacLeod" <suzmacleod@...> wrote:
My gut was telling me it was air intake/ or gas, and
> he let out a couple of whopping burps after. Anyone ahve any
thoughts
> on this? Scared the bejeezus out of me though.
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You seem to have handled it well enough. Brava! No reason to believe
he didn't have gas--whopping burps is a good clue. My dogs have always
had success with deer necks, but I can see how all the necessary
wrestling can result in swallowed air.

He might also have been nauseous, from the novelty, the amount,
disgestive discomfort, aka indigestion?

Let us know how he gets on, okay? And don't write off deer necks, at
least not at this point. They really are great eats.
Chris O

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