[rawfeeding] Digest Number 12250

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: challenges!
From: Michelle Grabert

2a. Re: kangaroo meat
From: shefy gupta
2b. Re: kangaroo meat
From: addicted 2 my pc
2c. Re: kangaroo meat
From: doreenchui

3. Sick Dog
From: oceanapsyche

4.1. Re: Grass Eating -- MINE TOO!!
From: costrowski75
4.2. Re: Grass Eating -- MINE TOO!!
From: cynthiashankman

5a. Re: Recreational bones (was Re: Why is my dog feasting on concrete?
From: Josh LaRue
5b. Re: Recreational bones (was Re: Why is my dog feasting on concrete?
From: Sandee Lee

6a. Re: Why is my dog feasting on concrete?
From: costrowski75

7a. Re: Husband thinks dog is still hungry
From: mmc2315
7b. Re: Husband thinks dog is still hungry
From: mmc2315

8a. Re: price of turkey, chicken; freezer question
From: Giselle
8b. Re: price of turkey, chicken; freezer question
From: jennifer_hell
8c. Re: price of turkey, chicken; freezer question
From: Giselle
8d. Re: price of turkey, chicken; freezer question
From: jennifer_hell
8e. Re: price of turkey, chicken; freezer question
From: rosey031801

9a. Re: Anyone raise rabbits for feed?
From: jennifer_hell
9b. Re: Anyone raise rabbits for feed?
From: jaygaughan

10a. Rotten eggs
From: Taj

11. Raw and Loving it
From: Kathryn

12a. check this out
From: Candee Brey

13. Dog not digesting food
From: reachpanda

14. pink eye
From: antarpremal

15. Question on Table scraps to a raw fed dog
From: jaygaughan

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1a. Re: challenges!
Posted by: "Michelle Grabert" chalienme@yahoo.com chalienme
Date: Tue Nov 6, 2007 6:54 pm ((PST))

Thankyou Jay..I would LOVE to join you at the Sushi bar~! YUM! Michelle

jaygaughan <jaygaughan@yahoo.com> wrote: Hi Andrea. I'm not looking to debate you on this just inform you.

Also sorry about turning this post in another direction Michelle.

Do a little searching on this and you'll find it is not just that one
area or fish that can and does have the potential to harbor this
parasite.

The parasite in question is called Nanophyetus salmincola.
It can be found in EVERY fish that spawns in fresh waters wild or
not.

http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/ClientED/salmon.asp

As for what fish contain Omegas here's a small list of the most
popular ones.

EPA and DHA are found in mackerel, salmon, herring, sardines,
sablefish (black cod), anchovies, albacore tuna, Lake Trout, Herring,
Menhaden (Bunker, a bait fish you can buy at any salt water bait shop
same as Mackerel), and many other fatty oily fish.

http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=3013797

If you give you feed your dog raw fish all you need to do to insure
this never happens is freeze the fish for few days. If you look up
the regulations for Sushi grade fish in the US you'll find ALL Sushi
grade fish should have been frozen. If you ask any people that love
fresh Sashimi they'll tell you freshness and quality are measured in
hours. Never frozen at all. I eat all the salt water fish I catch
raw. Some right on my boat. This is because salt water fish no not
harbor these parasites.

Now I'm going to make some calls to find out who's going to the Sushi
bar with me for lunch. MMMMMMmmmmmm :-))

Jay

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2a. Re: kangaroo meat
Posted by: "shefy gupta" shefy7@yahoo.com shefy7
Date: Tue Nov 6, 2007 7:31 pm ((PST))

yeh snowy didn't seem to fond of it at first either. i cooked it then after about 10 minutes of him sniffing it, and i gave it and he ate it happily.now when i give it he likes it just as much as anything else edible. :)

shefy and snowy

doreenchui <doreenchui@yeos.com> wrote:
I got mine frozen from Australia. It's for human consumption. He's not
game for it. All my effort searching for this high protein meat gone to
waste.
Doreen
--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "bluegracepwd" wrote:
>
> Hi Doreen,
>
> we have access to kangaroo every now and again. It's high in protein
> and a bit gamey. My dogs aren't a big fan. Be careful if you buy it
> in the pet food section of the supermarket because it does often come
> with some nasty preservatives. So check out the label before hand.
>
> I now have access to fresh kangaroo, which is fantastic.
>
> cheers
>
> Jane
> ... clearly from Australia.
>

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2b. Re: kangaroo meat
Posted by: "addicted 2 my pc" mmoy1191@tpg.com.au jmoylan1952
Date: Tue Nov 6, 2007 7:39 pm ((PST))

Yep my kangaroo meat also preservative free from a natural pet produce store,
lucky am living in Australia too,
Jen

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2c. Re: kangaroo meat
Posted by: "doreenchui" doreenchui@yeos.com doreenchui
Date: Tue Nov 6, 2007 7:58 pm ((PST))

EDITED BY MODERATOR. PLEASE TRIM YOUR MESSAGES.

Now you feed it as raw?
Doreen--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, shefy gupta <shefy7@...>
wrote:
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> yeh snowy didn't seem to fond of it at first either. i cooked it
then after about 10 minutes of him sniffing it, and i gave it and he
ate it happily.now when i give it he likes it just as much as
anything else edible. :)
>
> shefy and snowy

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3. Sick Dog
Posted by: "oceanapsyche" oceanapsyche@yahoo.com oceanapsyche
Date: Tue Nov 6, 2007 8:07 pm ((PST))

Samson, my 7 yr old Cairn terrier recently has been having diarrhia.
He's been on raw for about a yr and a half now, and he's had loose
stool and drippy squidgy poos but nothing this long lasting or painful.
My aunt has been feeding him chicken legs, but he has eaten those
before and always chews thoroughly. He's been having diarrhea for maybe
four days. This has never happened before and now he's starting to poop
blood. He is acting slightly lethargic and not quite as food crazy. His
stomach is fairly hard and it discomforts him when it is touched or
when he rolls on his back. His gums and tongue still are a healthy pink
and he looks normal. I'm taking him to the vet tomorrow but I was
wondering if this sounds like anything in particular.

Thanks,
Jen

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4.1. Re: Grass Eating -- MINE TOO!!
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Tue Nov 6, 2007 8:12 pm ((PST))

"alexanderdewey" <alexanderdewey@...> wrote:
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But... Now I'm totally confused.. So, a dog
> eating grass is normal? In the wild, do they do it or not?
*****
Yes, I believe eating grass/plant stuff is a normal response to urges
we probably don't know much about. Yes, in the wild as well,
although the "grass" would not be the cultivated version that's
generally available to our domestic wolves.

couldn't I just get a little veggie then (puree'd or not), and
> feed it to her once in a while to satisfy this desire of hers
> (whether based on nutritional need or not). Could it do any harm
if
> it's not taking the place of her normal meals (ie: no decrease in
> meats).
*****
I doubt anyone on this list has seriously suggested that "a little
veggie" would harm any dog. While I do think it's somewhat
presumptuous to assume you can choose vegetables that will satisfy
her need (since I don't believe we have established what her need
is), if doing somthing makes you feel better about not knowing--sure,
go ahead.

Let us know if/when your veggie selection assuages her need to graze.
Chris O

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4.2. Re: Grass Eating -- MINE TOO!!
Posted by: "cynthiashankman" ShankMa4@aol.com cynthiashankman
Date: Wed Nov 7, 2007 4:50 am ((PST))

>
> "alexanderdewey" <alexanderdewey@> wrote:
>
> couldn't I just get a little veggie then (puree'd or not), and
> > feed it to her once in a while to satisfy this desire of hers
> > (whether based on nutritional need or not). Could it do any harm
> if
> > it's not taking the place of her normal meals (ie: no decrease in
> > meats).

Alex,

BUT maybe she has the desire to eat grass because her meals haven't
included red meat, less bone, and organs? Maybe she is eating the
grass to balance herself out?

I wonder what would happen if you decreased the bone from just feeding
chicken, added other meats, added 10% organ then see what happens.

Cindi

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5a. Re: Recreational bones (was Re: Why is my dog feasting on concrete?
Posted by: "Josh LaRue" moutaindude23@yahoo.com moutaindude23
Date: Tue Nov 6, 2007 8:22 pm ((PST))

I've given these bones to my dogs many times without any trouble. And one of them is my wife's 8 pound pom. She'll chew on that thing for hours! Another good item are ribs.

Josh LaRue wrote:

> Does the dog have any recreational bones? The big knuckle bones would probably keep
>him busy chewing on that instead of other odd things.

Is a big knuckle bone appropriate for a smaller dog? We have a 10# adult Cairn Terrier mix.

What bone part, specifically, would I ask the butcher for? I'm thinking a recreational bone
might be a good thing for our little dog because he likes to munch on wood chips and usually
horks them up.

Thanks,

Michelle

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5b. Re: Recreational bones (was Re: Why is my dog feasting on concrete?
Posted by: "Sandee Lee" rlee@plix.com mariasmom2001
Date: Tue Nov 6, 2007 9:54 pm ((PST))

And that chewing for hours thing is what eventually wears down and breaks
teeth. You may not see problems at the moment, but they are cumulative.
Beef ribs are great exercise if fed in slabs and the bones removed when the
meat, gristle, etc. is gone. Generally they are too hard for most dogs to
consume.

Sandee & the Dane Gang

From: "Josh LaRue" <moutaindude23@yahoo.com>

> I've given these bones to my dogs many times without any trouble. And one
of them is my wife's 8 pound pom. She'll chew on that thing for hours!
Another good item are ribs.

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6a. Re: Why is my dog feasting on concrete?
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Tue Nov 6, 2007 8:27 pm ((PST))

Josh LaRue <moutaindude23@...> wrote:
Does the dog have any recreational bones? The big knuckle bones would
probably keep him busy chewing on that instead of other odd things.
*****
You must be new to this list. Rawfeeding does not recommend
recreational bones and knuckles (which were within the last 24 hours
the subject of some intense scrutiny) are one of the recreation bones
that are not recommended. Both knuckle bones and the larger femur (or
tibia) bones they are cut from are as likely to fracture or break teeth
as they are to do anything good for the dog.

The best "rec" bones are the edible bones that come complete with lots
of luscious meat.
Chris O

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7a. Re: Husband thinks dog is still hungry
Posted by: "mmc2315" m.chelap@sbcglobal.net mmc2315
Date: Tue Nov 6, 2007 9:17 pm ((PST))

Andrea wrote:

> The little dogs often need more than 3% of their adult body weight, so
> your hubby might have a good point. I've always been a fan of letting
> the dog tell you how much they should eat. Some dogs simply won't
> regulate themselves, but lots do fine if you just let them.

Okay, so are you saying that I *might* be able to hand him an entire chicken quarter (3 meals
worth), and he might devour it one day, but not finish it another day, thereby regulating
himself?

Michelle

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7b. Re: Husband thinks dog is still hungry
Posted by: "mmc2315" m.chelap@sbcglobal.net mmc2315
Date: Tue Nov 6, 2007 9:17 pm ((PST))

blueberry5297 wrote:

> How active is your dog? I do believe small dogs need more than 2-3% of
> their body weight, but if he is particularly active, he'll need even
> more food. Personally, I would probably allow him to eat as much as he
> wants and see if he is gaining weight. If he is, start to cut back. As
> mentioned by another poster, dogs will tend to regulate their own diet.
> He may eat three days worth of food and then not eat for two days. I
> would offer as much food as he may eat every day, but take away what he
> doesn't eat after about 30-60 minutes. That way of feeding doesn't work
> for everyone, but it's a good way to see if your dog can tell YOU how
> much he needs to eat.

Okay, we could try that and see what happens. I could give him the entire chicken quarter.
He is definitely on the trim side. I can feel his spine and his ribs easily with my fingers,
and he has a well-defined waist.

Not sure about activity level. He's active, for sure. But not having a dog since I was a kid, I
can't say HOW active. :)

Thanks everyone who chimed in on this thread, it was very helpful. I'm so relieved to have
the support.

Michelle

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8a. Re: price of turkey, chicken; freezer question
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Tue Nov 6, 2007 9:22 pm ((PST))

Hi, Penny!
You didn't read that a dog needs 60% chicken on this website!
^_^

This list promotes and supports a species appropriate raw whole prey model
diet.

You're more likely to read recommendations to limit chicken in the diet and
NOT make it a mainstay protein.

You're more likely to read that people would rather make venison, pork,
beef, elk, rabbit, lamb, goat, even turkey their mainstay protein than
chicken. That they'd rather feed wild prey or free range or pastured
critters that themselves ate a species appropriate diet.

Some people have used craigslist or FreeCycle to score free or cheap
freezers so that they can stock up up stuff that is seasonally available.
So, yeah, freezing is a great idea!

Grinding isn't such a good idea, feeding chunks and hunks and huge parts or
whole animals are what raw feeding is about. Dogs get nutrition from ground
meat, organs and bone, but they also get dental, mental, physical and
emotional benefits from figuring out and eating complicated, engaging animal
parts. Even the weight bearing bones of the large critters, which aren't
edible can offer plenty of chewing, crunching and flossing activity before
they are tossed in the trash. There's very few parts of prey animals that
can't provide benefit to our dogs.

Have you checked out The Lis List? Or the rest of the links I've posted?

The Lis List, a creative compilation of ways to source protein
variety cheaply or for free;

*http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding/message/139618*

*Post #139618*

http://www.rawlearning.com/rawfaq.html

http://www.rawlearning.com/supplementmyths.html

http://www.rawfed.com/myths/index.html

http://rawfeddogs.net/Recipes

http://rawfeddogs.net/FAQlist

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding/message/143301

message # 143301

The Merck Veterinary Manual: "The carbohydrates added to pet foods are
mainly in the form of polysaccharides (starch and cellulose),
disaccharides (sucrose and lactose), and monosaccharides (glucose and
fructose). Carbohydrates are a less expensive source of energy than
fat or protein. In dogs, there appears to be **no dietary requirement
for carbohydrate**."

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding/message/144402

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding/message/144075

*http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding/message/141374 *

*post # 141374*

TC
Giselle

On 11/6/07, Penny Sanford Fikes <penny@bluebonnetmagnolia.com> wrote:
>
> I want to shop at your grocery store! That is good for turkey. 89
> cents/pound is the best I've found this year....but still looking. *grin*
>
> <snip>
> So much to learn since I found this group last night. I remember
> reading that a dog needs about 60 percent chicken. We've got that part
> covered, I think. *grin*
>
> Er.....what are your thoughts on having to freeze the meat/bones for
> later use....especially when one can grab a really good price?
>
> <snip>
>
> Penny in Mississippi
> Four English Shepherds and Seven rescued Westies
> www.pennysanford.typepad.com
>
>

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8b. Re: price of turkey, chicken; freezer question
Posted by: "jennifer_hell" jenniferhell@web.de jennifer_hell
Date: Tue Nov 6, 2007 9:48 pm ((PST))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, Giselle <megan.giselle@...> wrote:
That they'd rather feed wild prey or free range or pastured
> critters that themselves ate a species appropriate diet.
>
That's awesome! I got the impression here that it just has to be the
cheapest of the cheapest (right now the cheapest turkey) and that it
doesn't matter that the "frankenprey" had a grain- or even worse based
diet in its short life in hell. I'm glad that impression is wrong.
Searching the archives I found some great info from Bill (regarding
Omega-6 and free range), which was helpful for me especially as my dog
has arthritis and spondylosis.

Jennifer with Mandy

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8c. Re: price of turkey, chicken; freezer question
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Tue Nov 6, 2007 11:43 pm ((PST))

Hi, Jennifer!
Some of us, with the best intentions in the world, cannot
afford to feed ourselves or our dogs free range, pastured meats either all
or even some of the time. Some of us can find free or cheap wild prey to
feed easier than others. Some of us hunt or fish, or have contacts who do.
Some have farms or raise small prey to feed their dogs. Some of us 'hunt'
tirelessly, using creative ways to find on sale or free sources of meat
variety. Some of us have a single dog, or a small or toy dog, and so can
afford to feed only the most optimum meats that they can source.

We all have ideals of the way we'd like to feed our dogs, a few of us are
closer to their goals than the rest of us. ^_^

When budgetary concerns are important, which it is for a lot of us, finding
cheap or free or creative ways to source a variety of proteins, bones and
organs are not so small victories on our way to our ultimate goals. Whole
prey, FrankenPrey, factory fed, small farmsteaders, or hunters, we're just
grateful we can feed raw to our dogs, the best way we can get it.

TC
Giselle

On 11/7/07, jennifer_hell <jenniferhell@web.de> wrote:
>
> --- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com <rawfeeding%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Giselle <megan.giselle@...> wrote:
> That they'd rather feed wild prey or free range or pastured
> > critters that themselves ate a species appropriate diet.
> >
> That's awesome! I got the impression here that it just has to be the
> cheapest of the cheapest (right now the cheapest turkey) and that it
> doesn't matter that the "frankenprey" had a grain- or even worse based
> diet in its short life in hell. I'm glad that impression is wrong.
> Searching the archives I found some great info from Bill (regarding
> Omega-6 and free range), which was helpful for me especially as my dog
> has arthritis and spondylosis.
>
> Jennifer with Mandy
>
>

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8d. Re: price of turkey, chicken; freezer question
Posted by: "jennifer_hell" jenniferhell@web.de jennifer_hell
Date: Wed Nov 7, 2007 5:17 am ((PST))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, Giselle <megan.giselle@...> wrote:
>
Some of us, with the best intentions in the world, cannot
> afford to feed ourselves or our dogs free range, pastured meats
either all
> or even some of the time. Some of us can find free or cheap wild prey to
> feed easier than others. Some of us hunt or fish, or have contacts
who do.
> Some have farms or raise small prey to feed their dogs. Some of us
'hunt'
> tirelessly, using creative ways to find on sale or free sources of meat
> variety. Some of us have a single dog, or a small or toy dog, and so can
> afford to feed only the most optimum meats that they can source.
>
> We all have ideals of the way we'd like to feed our dogs, a few of
us are
> closer to their goals than the rest of us. ^_^
>
I so understand all of this. I have a problem with people who feed the
cheapest they can get although they could get better, because they
just don't care. That is so sad and reminds me of people buying the
cheapest doom nuggets, just because they're cheap. This list is much
more considerate than other raw feeding lists I'm on. I really
appreciate that. =)It took quite some effort for me to find cheap free
range meat, and it irks me if people don't even try. Oh well, most
don't care what's in the food they and their children eat either...
Ack, this is a gazillion miles off topic!! I'm sorry and will shut up
now! *waves white flag*

Jennifer

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8e. Re: price of turkey, chicken; freezer question
Posted by: "rosey031801" rosey031801@sbcglobal.net rosey031801
Date: Wed Nov 7, 2007 6:22 am ((PST))

>I have a problem with people who feed the
> cheapest they can get although they could get better, because they
> just don't care.

I feed the cheapest I can get because I can't afford the free range and
that doesn't mean I don't care. I think anyone who feds raw meat in any
capacity CARES!!!
Cheryl

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9a. Re: Anyone raise rabbits for feed?
Posted by: "jennifer_hell" jenniferhell@web.de jennifer_hell
Date: Tue Nov 6, 2007 9:48 pm ((PST))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "jaygaughan" <jaygaughan@...> wrote:
>
> I've seen many people with rabbits at their homes they use for food
> and have for pets. All living in small cages (4'x3'x3') 3 feet off
> the ground. This is the only way I've ever seen them besides in the
> woods and what I thought was the norm. If this is inappropriate for
> raising rabbits in any form I'm guilty as charged.
>

Yes, the way you describe it above is not at all species appropriate.
It doesn't make it right that many people keep them that way. Think of
all the k*bble fed dogs- that doesn't make it the proper nutrition! *grin*
I apologize for misunderstanding you, I'm not a native speaker and
sometimes I just get things wrong.

Jennifer with Mandy (from Germany)

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9b. Re: Anyone raise rabbits for feed?
Posted by: "jaygaughan" jaygaughan@yahoo.com jaygaughan
Date: Wed Nov 7, 2007 5:53 am ((PST))

Thanks for understanding Jennifer.

Giselle thank you for the information but I'm not looking to raise
anything for food. I was just thinking it would be nice if I could have
some fresh rabbits on hand and rabbit droppings for my flower beds. I
don't have the time to invest with all my other activities.
I do have some land off my back yard (18 acres) but it's all woods.
Lots of Turkeys and deer running around in it. I am an archery hunter
and do take a deer or 2 off the land each year depending on their
population and the amount of food supply for them in the winter..

Thanks again all.

Jay

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10a. Rotten eggs
Posted by: "Taj" bpskarma@yahoo.com bpskarma
Date: Wed Nov 7, 2007 2:10 am ((PST))

I just wanted to thank everyone for there responses.

Taj and Karma
"Dogs are a special gift we must appreciate their unlimited love and attempt to return it"
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11. Raw and Loving it
Posted by: "Kathryn" paintedgoatfarm@yahoo.com paintedgoatfarm
Date: Wed Nov 7, 2007 4:26 am ((PST))

I've been raw feeding my dogs for 2 1/2 weeks now and I love it. They
are happier at meal time and I feel more involved with their health.
My Aussie even lost the really bad gas problem he was having. I want
to thank everyone on the list for the wonderful support and patience
they have with us newbies. It really is a help.

Kathryn

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12a. check this out
Posted by: "Candee Brey" candee@netnet.net candeeloubrey
Date: Wed Nov 7, 2007 4:50 am ((PST))

It shouldn't matter what kind of dog you have it could happen to your
breed also.

Pass it on

> http://dpca.org/Legisltv/cardchallenge.htm
>
>
>
>

Candee Brey

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13. Dog not digesting food
Posted by: "reachpanda" reachpanda@hotmail.com reachpanda
Date: Wed Nov 7, 2007 5:41 am ((PST))

My dog has been on raw about 2 weeks. In a previous post I mentioned
that she was vomiting liquid every night. In the past week she's only
done that twice, so things were looking better. Then last night she
threw up the entire piece of chicken breast from dinner. This was 7
HOURS after eating it and it wasn't digested in the least bit. How is
that possible? And why? She's also been acting a little constipated.
Could she have a blockage? I first put her on raw becuase of really bad
chronic diarrhea, and now nothing will come out!

Andrea

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14. pink eye
Posted by: "antarpremal" antarpremal@yahoo.com antarpremal
Date: Wed Nov 7, 2007 5:53 am ((PST))

Hi All,
Jennifer with Sasha here. She's got a recurrent pink eye infection and has had all the tests
to rule out cornial scratches and dry eyes. After 3 rounds of drops still a problem. She's
also a flea magnet and has plaque on here back teeth despite raw feeding. Sounds like
some underlying problem, but what? Am seeking for an alternative vet now since the other
one has not helped. She's only 8 months old and otherwise healthy and normal. Any
insight appreciated.
Thanks,!
Jennifer

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15. Question on Table scraps to a raw fed dog
Posted by: "jaygaughan" jaygaughan@yahoo.com jaygaughan
Date: Wed Nov 7, 2007 6:22 am ((PST))

As I was cutting up my steak last night I thought about how much my
last Dane loved when I grilled steaks. As soon as I fired up the grill
he would follow me in and out of the house until he was given his
share. Now that I'm going raw with my new Dane puppy in a few weeks I'm
wondering if there is any down side to feeding him table scraps.

Can anyone shed some light on this for me please? Could it affect him
liking raw meats? Is there any down side or can I just give him any
meat leftovers (all meats and fowl)?

Thank you

Jay

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