[rawfeeding] Digest Number 12206

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Katie's puking up
From: Susanne MacLeod
1b. Re: Katie's puking up
From: Laurie Swanson

2. Hamburger/and other ground meats/puppy
From: beaulah_2001us

3a. Re: Constant diarrhoea
From: carnesbill

4a. Re: swallows whole
From: Mary Tinder
4b. Re: swallows whole
From: carnesbill
4c. Re: swallows whole
From: Giselle

5a. Throws up food within seconds of eating
From: lesli_forrester
5b. Re: Throws up food within seconds of eating
From: carolejc2007

6a. Re: Chicken Sale
From: Maggie Smith

7a. Re: is a pet ever too old to start feeding raw?
From: Bumble1994@aol.com
7b. Re: is a pet ever too old to start feeding raw?
From: Daisy Foxworth

8a. Re: Smelts
From: Morledzep@aol.com
8b. Re: Smelts
From: doreenchui
8c. Re: Smelts
From: Morledzep@aol.com

9.1. question
From: beaulah_2001us

10a. Re: Great links to How Awful Pet Food Is
From: anntiga
10b. Re: Great links to How Awful Pet Food Is
From: T Smith

11. Why is Liver so important?
From: T Smith

12a. Re: New with Questions
From: lolathomson
12b. Re: New with Questions
From: D. Rajska
12c. Re: New with Questions
From: D. Rajska

13. Good Chicken price in MA
From: Margo Farnsworth

14a. Re: Bone & raw meat meals?
From: Kathleen Hunter

15a. Blood in poo
From: blue eyed

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1a. Katie's puking up
Posted by: "Susanne MacLeod" suzmacleod@rogers.com skull25ca
Date: Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:37 pm ((PDT))

Evening all....I have 2 frenchies that are raw fed and things have been
awesome. I have an immune compromised girl, who I have been really
trying hard to help through homeopathy. Anyhow, I try to follow a prey
diet as best as I can. I sometimes feed ground as I have to give her
meds (thyroids). Anyhow, last week I bought some ground pork and some
pork kidney at this asian market. Also got great goat shoulder AND
oxtail - real cheap. ANyhow, since trying the pork and pork kidney my
Katie has been almost burping up often...about three time or so....I
stopped the kidney after the first night. IT's not a lot, and she eats
the puke right up...so she's not sick. Any thoughts, have any of you
ever experienced this - her temp is fine...do you think it's
this "batch" of pork...she eats necks, and shoulder just fine. Could
it be where I got it?
Thanks ahead for the replies.
Suz Kate and Joey

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1b. Re: Katie's puking up
Posted by: "Laurie Swanson" laurie@mckinneyphoto.com las_lala
Date: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:44 pm ((PDT))

The ground pork might be really fatty and harder for her to digest.
Does it smell ok or could it be "off?"

Laurie

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Susanne MacLeod" <suzmacleod@...>
wrote:
>Anyhow, last week I bought some ground pork and some
> pork kidney at this asian market.

ANyhow, since trying the pork and pork kidney my
> Katie has been almost burping up often...about three time or so....I
> stopped the kidney after the first night. IT's not a lot, and she
eats
> the puke right up...so she's not sick.

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2. Hamburger/and other ground meats/puppy
Posted by: "beaulah_2001us" beaulah_2001us@yahoo.com beaulah_2001us
Date: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:28 pm ((PDT))

Hi all.

I have given our dogs raw ground meats in the past but only as adult
dogs and who were not on total raw diet. Mocha did get lucky and with
rooms like this one I got her to a total raw diet although that was too
late. She taught me much in many ways about what she needed and as I
learned I changed her diet.

I would have no qualms feeding my dog or dogs ground meat. I just would
not make a large staple of it unless it has at least bone crunched up
in it. And it does work in a pinch. I can get ground organ meats,
ground necks with bone in or just ground meat. I do spoil my any baby I
have with ground buffalo though when I can get some at a good price.
But they have to share with the two leggeds in the house too! Even on
specail it is pricey.

I get raw chicken and turkey necks that are ground up bone and all.
Sophie our new baby is 10 weeks old and I need to learn how to feed her
raw bones and all. I am really kind of intimidated all over again. When
I go to town tomorrow I plan on getting some fowl necks that are whole
and see how she does on those. She has been eating both turkey and
chicken and I gave her some lamb organ meat today for a small feeding
and doing ground chicken for the rest.

I guess I should introduce our puppy and give some a history of our
last dogs.

We had two dogs gracie who passed last Ocotber and Mocha who passed
this last August due to insulinoma cancer. I am a firm believer that
her cancer in large was due to the kibble foods and the high carbs that
they put in there. Mochas passing was particularly hard because she had
wave after wave of grand maul seizures.

We finally decided we were ready for another baby. We got a gorgious
pure bred boxer with a bit of an over bite. Not very noticable but
there. She is very sweet and I think Sophie in German means sweet.
Found that online but still I am not totally positive since it came
from on line. She didnt like kibble from the get go and didnt eat much
of what the lady sent home with us. We got a better kibble from
specialty store that also houses two holistic vets. Well as soon as I
could get to the store that I had been buying the ground meat with bone
in it I started switching her over to raw. Well she will leave the
kibble behind and eat only the raw! So I dont think I will have to
fight tooth and toe nail to get her to eat well.

It is soooooo good to have a furbaby back in the house again! I will
see if we have pics of her posted here. If not I will get some posted
tonight.

Sandy

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3a. Re: Constant diarrhoea
Posted by: "carnesbill" carnesw@bellsouth.net carnesbill
Date: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:46 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "URSULA" <UCL@...> wrote:
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> Hello sorry if I spelt it wrong - my five year old lab has constant
> liquid diarrhoea for three days now and she empties her
> bowels during
> the night always in the same place, fortunately on tiled flooring.

Ursla,
Don't panic. If she has been ok until 3 days ago, I don't think
this is caused by the poison she had last spring. I suggest going
back to the basics. Fast for a day and then start on chicken for a
couple of weeks. Remove the skin and extra fat. Feed small meals.
Make sure she is hydrated. Her stools should firm up in a few
days. Gradually add back other protein sources just like a newly
switched dog.

IF you have to take her back to the vet, remember HE can't put her
on anything you don't want to feed her. He can suggest but he can't
force it.

If she has had other liver problems since the spring, disregard this
post.

Bill Carnes
http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm

Feeding Raw since October 2002

"Unnatural diets predispose animals to unnatural outcomes"
Dr. Tom Lonsdale

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4a. Re: swallows whole
Posted by: "Mary Tinder" mtinder@tinderco.com mmmaryt
Date: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:52 pm ((PDT))

Thanks Giselle and Chris O!
I was not thinking about Big Feed. I've only been raw feeding for
about two weeks and it is taking a considerable reprogramming to change
the habits after 40 years of prepared food feeding. It never occurred
to me that he was acting like a starving fool!

I'd LOVE to see this dog satiated, relaxed and full! I'm almost
embarassed to say that I don't think he's EVER been there!

Turkey Tomorrow. A BIG one! Enough for leftovers!

Mary T

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4b. Re: swallows whole
Posted by: "carnesbill" carnesw@bellsouth.net carnesbill
Date: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:52 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Mary Tinder" <mtinder@...> wrote:
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> OK, my Dane, who was initially dubious about the raw diet is now
> swallowing whole chicken halves, most often without more than one or
> two initial crunches.

Cool. Don't expect dogs to chew like humans. Their digestive system
is different. Their teeth are different. We chew food into a mush
before we swallow it. Dogs don't. They just crunch it into small
enough pieces to fit down their throat. Sounds like this is what your
dog is doing. They can swallow some amazingly large pieces.

> He seemes to digest it ok!

Shows he is chewing well enough.

> Worst problem is that it makes it not very satisfactory for
> "mother" as dinner time is rather short. He acts insatiable!

Well, thats a Mama thing. I ate too fast and didn't chew well enough
to suit my Mama either. :) :) :)

> Bigger pieces?

You can if you wish.

> Give him the whole chicken?

If you wish.

> Freeze b4 hand?

I don't like that idea

> Should I worry?

He seems to be havning no digestive problems. I wouldn't worry.

Bill Carnes
http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm

Feeding Raw since October 2002

"Unnatural diets predispose animals to unnatural outcomes"
Dr. Tom Lonsdale

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4c. Re: swallows whole
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:46 pm ((PDT))

Hi, Mary!
Great minds think alike. ; )

Just remember to take it slow - baby steps.

He just might have cannon butt if he eats to repletion. Too much food, or
too much food at one time, or too much new food can cause digestive upset.

It may not bother him, but you may not be thrilled with the result if you
short circuit the process to feeding Big Food!

TC
Giselle

On 10/25/07, Mary Tinder <mtinder@tinderco.com> wrote:
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> Thanks Giselle and Chris O!
> I was not thinking about Big Feed. I've only been raw feeding for
> about two weeks and it is taking a considerable reprogramming to change
> the habits after 40 years of prepared food feeding. It never occurred
> to me that he was acting like a starving fool!
>
> I'd LOVE to see this dog satiated, relaxed and full! I'm almost
> embarrassed to say that I don't think he's EVER been there!
>
> Turkey Tomorrow. A BIG one! Enough for leftovers!
>
> Mary T
>
>

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5a. Throws up food within seconds of eating
Posted by: "lesli_forrester" lesli_forrester@yahoo.ca lesli_forrester
Date: Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:53 pm ((PDT))

My Bernese Mountain Dog has been on raw for 1 year now limited to
chicken, beef, turkey, egg, and any organs as long as they are
partially browned on the outside.

This summer she started throwing up her food as soon as she finished
eating it. Ex. I give her small half chicken which she chomps up in
about 5 minutes and then regurgitates it back up about a minute or
two later. She does not have an upset stomach since she turns around
and eats it again right away (I know, sounds gross but it looks just
like it did the first time going down, just chomped up). She keeps
it down the second time and she seems none the worse for wear. She
is not losing weight, good poops, clean bill of health, etc.

I thought initially this was due to the summer heat, and it's not
everyday but it's regular (3 times/week?) and now that we have cooler
days I am not sure why she still does this. I don't think it has
anything to do with her not chewing up her food enough the first time
since she does the same thing with a dinner of just ground beef.
Can't get much more ground up than that.

Can anyone explain why she is doing this, is this normal, am I doing
something wrong?
Thanks,
Lesli

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5b. Re: Throws up food within seconds of eating
Posted by: "carolejc2007" mooska2me@sbcglobal.net carolejc2007
Date: Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:04 am ((PDT))

Lesli

One of my Greyhounds does this also. I have no answer for you but
the only thing I can think of is that maybe it was too cold for her
tummy the first time down and/or she ate it too fast. I really am
not that concerned about it though because, like you said, it gets
eaten the second time around and stays down. ;-)

Carole

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "lesli_forrester"
<lesli_forrester@...> wrote:
>
> My Bernese Mountain Dog has been on raw for 1 year now limited to
> chicken, beef, turkey, egg, and any organs as long as they are
> partially browned on the outside.
>
> This summer she started throwing up her food as soon as she
finished
> eating it. Ex. I give her small half chicken which she chomps up
in
> about 5 minutes and then regurgitates it back up about a minute or
> two later. She does not have an upset stomach since she turns
around
> and eats it again right away (I know, sounds gross but it looks
just
> like it did the first time going down, just chomped up). She
keeps
> it down the second time and she seems none the worse for wear.
She
> is not losing weight, good poops, clean bill of health, etc.
>
> I thought initially this was due to the summer heat, and it's not
> everyday but it's regular (3 times/week?) and now that we have
cooler
> days I am not sure why she still does this. I don't think it has
> anything to do with her not chewing up her food enough the first
time
> since she does the same thing with a dinner of just ground beef.
> Can't get much more ground up than that.
>
> Can anyone explain why she is doing this, is this normal, am I
doing
> something wrong?
> Thanks,
> Lesli
>

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6a. Re: Chicken Sale
Posted by: "Maggie Smith" redkeds@comcast.net redkeds1
Date: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:43 pm ((PDT))

Regarding Seattle area - this is a 3 day only sale - get rainchecks!!

Maggie, Rufus, Oliver and Mickey
--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, Morledzep@... wrote:
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>
> In a message dated 10/25/2007 4:38:15 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> redkeds@... writes:
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> BTW - this is for the greater Seattle area stores.
>
>
>

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7a. Re: is a pet ever too old to start feeding raw?
Posted by: "Bumble1994@aol.com" Bumble1994@aol.com bumble1994
Date: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:00 pm ((PDT))

In a message dated 10/25/2007 9:25:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,"kaebruney"
writes:

My mother is the owner of two cats one 9 another 6, and I was
wondering if it is possible to switch over an older feline to raw as well?

****
Hi, Kae

I switched my 3 in March--one 9, one 7, and one 3. The 9-year-old is my best
bone-eater. :) But be careful and patient about it because cats are at risk
of a possibly fatal liver disease if they go sometimes even 24 hr. without
eating sufficient food--so no, you can't just starve a cat into eating what you
give him. Sometimes a cat is a happy switcher (all 3 of mine were completely
transitioned and starting to eat bones within 3 weeks), sometimes it takes
lots and lots of patience and putting a bit of raw out with the usual food,
having it rejected. A lot of times, if a cat is a kibble addict, you have to get
him switched to canned and THEN to raw. (But hey, the canned is still better
for him than the kibble!)

When I was deciding to switch, at the time of the pet food recalls, I was
concerned about the oldest cat's health, as he was losing weight and hair and in
general not thriving. He showed the most marked and immediate improvement,
in coat and weight. I started with chicken (influenced by this list, probably
didn't offer anything but different parts of chicken for over a week,
although I've read that cats should be given variety immediately), then turkey,
fish, then beef, pork, rabbit, lamb, frog legs, eggs... .whatever swims by you.
:) Also, against all "right" ways, my cats' introduction to raw meat was a
considerable amount of chopped up chicken liver mixed with their canned food and
some veggies...and they LOVED it, with no ill effects.

Getting your mom's overweight guy off kibble could save his life. Here's a
link to a vet whose specialty is cats with diabetes, she blames carbs and feeds
raw herself-- and I believe that what she says is true of all cats.

_http://yourdiabeticcat.com/_ (http://yourdiabeticcat.com/)

Hope this helps.

Lynda

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7b. Re: is a pet ever too old to start feeding raw?
Posted by: "Daisy Foxworth" daisyfoxworth@yahoo.com daisyfoxworth
Date: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:38 am ((PDT))

I switched my cat a year ago, at 16 years old. She won't touch bone,
so she doesn't get the dental benefits (which is the main reason I
changed her diet, LOL), but she is clearly better in other ways. I
add finely ground egg shell to make up for the lost bone. My vet
thinks she looks great!

Daisy

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8a. Re: Smelts
Posted by: "Morledzep@aol.com" Morledzep@aol.com morledzep
Date: Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:36 am ((PDT))

In a message dated 10/25/2007 5:24:57 PM Pacific Standard Time,
gwilken@alamedanet.net writes:

and my fish are not that big - but heck, I could try it.

lol Ginny,

we're raising south american cichlids and catfish.. when the fish are young
we cut the fish up into bite sized pieces.. when they are big enough they eat
them whole.

And smelts is just one of the types of fish they eat.. they are also big fans
of catfish nuggets and raw shrimp.

Catherine R.

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8b. Re: Smelts
Posted by: "doreenchui" doreenchui@yeos.com doreenchui
Date: Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:08 am ((PDT))

Shrimp?
Doreen

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, Morledzep@... wrote:
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>
> In a message dated 10/25/2007 5:24:57 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> gwilken@... writes:
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> and my fish are not that big - but heck, I could try it.
>
>
>
> lol Ginny,
>
> we're raising south american cichlids and catfish.. when the fish
are young
> we cut the fish up into bite sized pieces.. when they are big
enough they eat
> them whole.
>
> And smelts is just one of the types of fish they eat.. they are
also big fans
> of catfish nuggets and raw shrimp.
>
> Catherine R.
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>
> ************************************** See what's new at

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8c. Re: Smelts
Posted by: "Morledzep@aol.com" Morledzep@aol.com morledzep
Date: Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:14 am ((PDT))

In a message dated 10/26/2007 1:08:37 AM Pacific Standard Time,
doreenchui@yeos.com writes:

Shrimp?

Doreen,

yes.. for the fish. the 61-70 shell on raw shrimp is about $3 - 4 lb
depending on the store. i snip the tails off and feed them to my fish. i have
peacock bass(3 different varieties), redtailed catfish, tigershovelnose catfish,
angelfish, red bay snooks, oscars, true green terrors, a silver arowana and
various tank janitors (plecos, crayfish, snails and clams).

Catherine R.

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9.1. question
Posted by: "beaulah_2001us" beaulah_2001us@yahoo.com beaulah_2001us
Date: Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:08 am ((PDT))

How do i post pictures?

Sandy

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10a. Re: Great links to How Awful Pet Food Is
Posted by: "anntiga" Anntiga@aol.com anntiga
Date: Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:08 am ((PDT))

HI!

Norman is great, thank you! I have been busy but hope I can start
getting involved again.

Ann and Norman (Portugese Water Dog, 19 months old, rawfed prey model
style since 12 weeks old and thriving)

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "costrowski75" <Chriso75@...> wrote:
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> Anntiga@ wrote:
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> > This is a great site that has a list with links to several articles
> about
> > how awful pet food is.
> *****
> Ann!
> You're back!
> Where ya bin?
> Good to see ya.
>
> Everything okay? How is Master Norman?
> Chris O
>

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10b. Re: Great links to How Awful Pet Food Is
Posted by: "T Smith" coldbeach@gmail.com lhasaspots
Date: Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:08 am ((PDT))

How can I get this in a different format other than pdf?
Trina

On 10/25/07, Anntiga@aol.com <Anntiga@aol.com> wrote:
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> This is a great site that has a list with links to several articles
> about
> how awful pet food is.
>
> _
> http://www.canineadvantage.com/Rendering%20Plant%20Article%20Websites.pdf_
> (http://www.canineadvantage.com/Rendering%20Plant%20Article%20Websites.pdf)
>
>
>
> Ann and Norman (Portuguese Water Dog)
> San Francisco Peninsula, CA, USA
>
>

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11. Why is Liver so important?
Posted by: "T Smith" coldbeach@gmail.com lhasaspots
Date: Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:08 am ((PDT))

Why is liver so important?
Trina
Chip (deaf Dalmatian)
Casper (deaf Great Dane)
Whisper (deaf Great Dane)
Louie (hearing Great Dane)
Joey (deaf & blind Lhasa Apso)
Amy (disabled Lhasa Apso)
Cassandra (disabled Lhasa Apso)
Mr Paris (Lhasa Apso)
Chloe (deaf & blind Spaniel mix)

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12a. Re: New with Questions
Posted by: "lolathomson" lolathomson@gmail.com lolathomson
Date: Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:08 am ((PDT))

> I don't excercise the way cave people did when they had to hike the
woods to
> pick their berries and wild vegetables and chase their prey whilst
wielding
> a big stick... That doesn't mean that chocolate is a more ideal diet
for me
> than fruit, whole grains and lean meat was for a cave person... Just
means
> my intake should be commensurate with my activity level...?

Exactly the point that I was making.

> Again... to me that's like saying, gee, I'd love to eat a salad, but I'm
> afraid there's so much pesticide in vegetables I'll just be better off
> eating a Twinkie... I'm new here, all I do is ask a lot of
questions, but
> that argument just makes no sense. I wish it did - I'm visiting a friend
> right now and it would be great if I could justify the dessert I just
> inhaled.... ;)

My point was by no means to say that because all our natural food may
be contaminated that we should eat processed food!! Rather that
substituting appropriate contaminated food for inappropriate
contaminated food was not a good solution to the problem of meat and
bones being contaminated...

I think we're agreeing but just wanted to clarify!

Ali

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12b. Re: New with Questions
Posted by: "D. Rajska" d.rajska@gmail.com deerajska
Date: Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:13 am ((PDT))

On 10/26/07, lolathomson <lolathomson@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
> I think we're agreeing but just wanted to clarify!
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> .
> _,_._,___
>

HI,

Oh, I completely agree with you -m just micking the original text - you're
totally right, the book makes no sense on those two points and I just wanted
to illustrate how ridiculous they were by putting them in human terms. We're
good :)

Dee

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12c. Re: New with Questions
Posted by: "D. Rajska" d.rajska@gmail.com deerajska
Date: Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:13 am ((PDT))

On 10/26/07, D. Rajska <d.rajska@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
> -m just micking the original text -
>

Gee, maybe in the future I should try waking up before I try typing.....
Lemme try again here.... ***I'm just mocking the original text****

Dee

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13. Good Chicken price in MA
Posted by: "Margo Farnsworth" mfarnsworth@mfgraffix.com mfarnsworth06759
Date: Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:27 am ((PDT))

I found All Natural whole chickens at Wal-Mart in Leicester for $.93/lb
(frozen). They have the little organ meat packet inside, too (I'm finding
some chickens I buy do not have that anymore). I thought that was a good
price for all-natural chicken. When I took them out of the package they did
not have a greasy or slimy feel to them, the skin was drier to the touch.
Dogs are happy with them! They don't cook up as well as human food, it came
out a bit rubbery.

Margo

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14a. Re: Bone & raw meat meals?
Posted by: "Kathleen Hunter" dmillho1@tampabay.rr.com dmillho1
Date: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:38 am ((PDT))

I apologize for the length, but want to give all the information

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "carnesbill" <carnesw@...> wrote:
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>If one or both of your
> dogs is having digestive problems(diarrhea/excessively soft stools)
> at this point, it's time to back up and begin again from the
> beginning.
>>
> The things that can cause digestive upset:
> 1. Adding new protein sources too quickly to newly switched dogs.
> 2. Feeding to little bone to newly switched dogs.
> 3. Adding organ meat too early to newly switched dogs.
> 4. Feeding too much volume
> 5. Feeding too much fat. (remove the skin and extra fat if your
> dog is having digestive problems. If he isn't, don't worry about it.
>
>
After gentle persuasion over several months, I finally got my DH to
agree with giving our 2 Corgis raw meat. He agreed to let them have
one piece of raw chicken every other day, with their regular dry food.
)We feed them Timberwolf Organics dry food, a Florida-based product.)

All has gone well - (1 or 2 months) until this Wednesday just past.
The dogs went to the groomer and one of the boys had diarrhea there.
After 3 loose stools, he was given something to stop the diarrhea. It
did not work completely as he had more loose stools that evening and
during the night into Thursday.

The stool was examined at the vet office. They called and told my DH
that there was bone in the stool and the presence of bone with
diarrhea could only be Salmonella. That dogs are not in the wild and
would not be exposed to Salmonella in the wild, so it had to be the
chicken.

Now, my DH is upset. The vet people want to talk to me - but, I told
DH that talking to the vet would not change my thinking. I can see
fromHe, however, is still upset, so I expect that we will stop the wee
bit of raw food we've been giving. I can see from what "carnesbill"
wrote about digestive problems, that our strategy may be at fault.

Can someone clarify on the issue of bones in stool + diarrhea =
salmonella?

Thanks.

Kathleen

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15a. Blood in poo
Posted by: "blue eyed" eyed_blue@yahoo.co.uk eyed_blue
Date: Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:04 am ((PDT))

There are a couple of reasons this may happen, however it dosnt tend to be a problem (I've been told this by vets too) Just feed something a bit gentler on the tummy for a day or two, its when the blood appears as black, running throughout that you would need to get to a vet, as this can signal internal bleeding, however I've been lucky not to have experienced this.

Natalie

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