[rawfeeding] Digest Number 12182

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: How do you deal w/ vets that blame raw diet
From: Tina Berry
1b. Re: How do you deal w/ vets that blame raw diet
From: Barb
1c. Re: How do you deal w/ vets that blame raw diet
From: Finster Boy
1d. Re: How do you deal w/ vets that blame raw diet
From: Finster Boy
1e. Re: How do you deal w/ vets that blame raw diet
From: Casey Post

2a. Salmon
From: Renate
2b. Re: Salmon
From: Sandee Lee
2c. Re: Salmon
From: Renate
2d. Re: Salmon
From: Laura Atkinson
2e. Re: Salmon
From: Sandee Lee
2f. Re: Salmon
From: T Smith
2g. Re: Salmon
From: Renate
2h. Re: Salmon
From: mousegirls

3a. Question about bad nails and thyroid
From: Tracy
3b. Re: Question about bad nails and thyroid
From: Casey Post

4a. Re: Coaxing to gnaw bone
From: Giselle
4b. Re: Coaxing to gnaw bone
From: sonitam

5a. Re: Russell
From: Giselle

6a. Re: Little-dog sized bones
From: Ashley Myers

7a. Re: Bloodthirsty, Please Advise!! (was: worming)
From: Loraine Jesse
7b. Re: Bloodthirsty, Please Advise!! (was: worming)
From: Pepper

8.1. liver
From: hanson_jenlynn

9.1. Re: Eggs
From: Pi

10. help!!! we're pregnant and not sure how/what to feed
From: nikkisevy@aol.com

11a. Re: another egg question
From: costrowski75

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1a. Re: How do you deal w/ vets that blame raw diet
Posted by: "Tina Berry" k9baron@gmail.com k9antje
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:30 pm ((PDT))

"Does anyone else go toe to toe with the vets about the raw diet?"

I fortunately have access to a raw diet, semi-holistic vet in my area. But
when I did have a non-raw promoting vet(s) I told them not to waste their
breath talking to me about how I should not feed my dog raw. Now, we were
not at the vet for any ailments (never have been, gee, must be the diet)
this was just a check up appt.

But if I were to have an issue with my dogs that needed vets attention, I'd
tell them they had better find something else as the cause other than my raw
diet or they are wasting my time.
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Tina Berry - MT
Kriegshund German Shepherds
Working Lines ~ Naturally Reared
www.kriegshundgsds.com

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1b. Re: How do you deal w/ vets that blame raw diet
Posted by: "Barb" behaven1@telus.net behavensnikko
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:30 pm ((PDT))

Raw is the only natural way a dog"carnivore" should eat.Any other way
is not natural.Plain & Simple!
Your Vet is not even worth argueing with!I wouldn't waste my energy
on him!
Cheers/Barb
Behaven Shelties
Raw fed/Vaccine free X 23+ years
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wrote:
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> I posted about my yorkie having trouble w/ anal gland infection. I
took
> him to the vet today.
can't
>
>> This is my forth vet. None in my area are open to raw.
> Does anyone else go toe to toe with the vets about the raw diet?
,
> Patricia
>

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1c. Re: How do you deal w/ vets that blame raw diet
Posted by: "Finster Boy" finster_boy1@yahoo.com finster_boy1
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:25 pm ((PDT))

Thanx Casey- You're so right when you wrote: "I need them to see the
animal, not the diet."
On those rare occasions when you have to see a vet in an emergency,
and the emergency is a gastro-intestinal issue,what do you say when the
vet asks, "What have you been feeding him?"

Thanx for the support!

Patricia

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1d. Re: How do you deal w/ vets that blame raw diet
Posted by: "Finster Boy" finster_boy1@yahoo.com finster_boy1
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:25 pm ((PDT))

Barb- I got to start shopping around for a vet that's on board. Any
suggestions on how to find one? Here in NJ they won't touch a NON-
vaccinated animal...(I stopped vaccinating 3 yrs ago) this one today
was ok with that, too bad he turned into such a flake with the raw diet
thang!
Thanx,
Patricia

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1e. Re: How do you deal w/ vets that blame raw diet
Posted by: "Casey Post" mikken@neo.rr.com mikkeny
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:36 pm ((PDT))

> On those rare occasions when you have to see a vet in an emergency,
> and the emergency is a gastro-intestinal issue,what do you say when the
> vet asks, "What have you been feeding him?"

Unless there's some reason to think that the diet is the cause, I lie. I'll
name some upper grade brand of dog food that's going to be considered
innocuous to the vet's mind so we can get on with really diagnosing the
issue.

The one time an emergency vet and I clashed over diet was when I was
dogsitting for my neighbor. Shortly after eating a game hen, the dog then
ate a squeaky toy (the dog had a history of eating clothing...I should have
been more careful!). So off to the evet to get him to vomit up the toy
before it becomes an issue...and up came the game hen, too.

The emergency vet was horrified. "Did you know that this dog ate RAW
CHICKEN?!"

"Oh, yes, of course. That was his meal. Not to worry. There's the toy!
Well done!", says I pleased to see the squeaky, again.

"The TOY doesn't concern me. You intentionally FED this dog RAW CHICKEN?
With BONES?" (she's turning red)

"Yes." (calm, but slightly fascinated by the vet's reaction)

"This is ... what were you... how could you do that!?!" (at this point,
she's spluttering and obviously very upset)

"It's what he eats. Honestly, it's fine. He's been on raw since..."

"This is the most irresponsible thing I've seen in a very long time. And
let me tell you that I've seen some very..."

"Wait." I'm looking for clarification now because this reaction seems a bit
over the top. So I speak slowly and carefully, "You're more upset about the
raw chicken, which will digest, than the toy which won't digest and possibly
cause a blockage?"

"YES, I am!"

"Ah. Then we have nothing more to discuss. Thank you."

The vet thought that I was a dog abusing nutjob and I thought that she was
irrational. Nothing I could do about it but pay my bill and leave, shaking
my head.

Casey

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2a. Salmon
Posted by: "Renate" renate.tideswell@gmail.com tideswell_renate
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:30 pm ((PDT))

My grocery store has a sale this week on whole pacific salmon at 99cents a
pound. I keep reading about the need to freeze it first. I can do that,
but should I just skip the whole thing? I'm in Canada and that price per
pound is good for anything meat-wise. If I should go ahead and get it, how
long does it need freezing for?

--
Renate
'The more I learn about men, the more I love my Shih Tzu'

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2b. Re: Salmon
Posted by: "Sandee Lee" rlee@plix.com mariasmom2001
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:36 pm ((PDT))

Renate,

Commercial salmon generally has already been frozen. If you are concerned,
throw it in the freezer for a week or two. For .99/lb, I'd jump at the
chance! :)

Sandee & the Dane Gang

From: "Renate" <renate.tideswell@gmail.com>

> My grocery store has a sale this week on whole pacific salmon at 99cents a
> pound. I keep reading about the need to freeze it first. I can do that,
> but should I just skip the whole thing? I'm in Canada and that price per
> pound is good for anything meat-wise. If I should go ahead and get it,
how
> long does it need freezing for?

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2c. Re: Salmon
Posted by: "Renate" renate.tideswell@gmail.com tideswell_renate
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:48 pm ((PDT))

OK, great. A couple of weeks is good. They say it's whole salmon but
according to the pictures, there is no head. Do whole salmon swim around
with no heads? LOL
Renate

On 10/19/07, Sandee Lee <rlee@plix.com> wrote:
>
> Renate,
>
> Commercial salmon generally has already been frozen. If you are concerned,
> throw it in the freezer for a week or two. For .99/lb, I'd jump at the
> chance! :)
>
> Sandee & the Dane Gang
>
> From: "Renate" <renate.tideswell@gmail.com <renate.tideswell%40gmail.com>>
>
> > My grocery store has a sale this week on whole pacific salmon at 99cents
> a
> > pound. I keep reading about the need to freeze it first. I can do that,
> > but should I just skip the whole thing? I'm in Canada and that price per
> > pound is good for anything meat-wise. If I should go ahead and get it,
> how
> > long does it need freezing for?
>
>
>

--
Renate
'The more I learn about men, the more I love my Shih Tzu'

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2d. Re: Salmon
Posted by: "Laura Atkinson" llatkinson@gmail.com lauraatkinson2002
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:57 pm ((PDT))

Dagnabit. Didn't we used to have a rule about putting an FDA on some
of these posts? (that's a Food & Drink Alert for you newbies!). I've
got to go clean my keyboard again!

On 10/19/07, Renate <renate.tideswell@gmail.com> wrote:
> OK, great. A couple of weeks is good. They say it's whole salmon but
> according to the pictures, there is no head. Do whole salmon swim around
> with no heads? LOL
> Renate
>

--
Laura A
Kaos Siberians http://www.kaossiberians.com
Forget love...I'd rather fall in chocolate.

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2e. Re: Salmon
Posted by: "Sandee Lee" rlee@plix.com mariasmom2001
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:48 pm ((PDT))

Evidently so!! Maybe just in your area! :))

Sandee & the Dane Gang

From: "Renate" <renate.tideswell@gmail.com>

> OK, great. A couple of weeks is good. They say it's whole salmon but
> according to the pictures, there is no head. Do whole salmon swim around
> with no heads? LOL
> Renate

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2f. Re: Salmon
Posted by: "T Smith" coldbeach@gmail.com lhasaspots
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:03 pm ((PDT))

Are you telling me that Canadian Salmon have been bred without heads???
hmmm... how do they say eh? eh?????
Trina
Damned close to Canada & grew up with Canadians/British/Engwish, I may as
well be one

On 10/19/07, Sandee Lee <rlee@plix.com> wrote:
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> Evidently so!! Maybe just in your area! :))
>
> Sandee & the Dane Gang
>
>

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2g. Re: Salmon
Posted by: "Renate" renate.tideswell@gmail.com tideswell_renate
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:25 pm ((PDT))

eh, eh, headless, come home, come home......

On 10/19/07, T Smith <coldbeach@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Are you telling me that Canadian Salmon have been bred without heads???
> hmmm... how do they say eh? eh?????
> Trina
> Damned close to Canada & grew up with Canadians/British/Engwish, I may as
> well be one
>
> On 10/19/07, Sandee Lee <rlee@plix.com <rlee%40plix.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Evidently so!! Maybe just in your area! :))
> >
> > Sandee & the Dane Gang
> >
> >
>
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>
>
>

--
Renate
'The more I learn about men, the more I love my Shih Tzu'

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2h. Re: Salmon
Posted by: "mousegirls" mousegirls@gmail.com ladysown
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:58 pm ((PDT))

yes, get it. for that price...almost cheaper than catching your own.

Three weeks in a good solid freezer should take care of bugs. :)

annette
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3a. Question about bad nails and thyroid
Posted by: "Tracy" thibodeaux_tracy@msn.com itstracyt
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:30 pm ((PDT))

I have just begun raw feeding my Lab 3 weeks today. Everything is
going very well with him (we have only been on chicken with a bit of
turkey starting just this week). I recently told my mother about this
way of feeding. I told her of everything I have read on this board as
well as many other sites that may help her dog whom has had numerous
probelms; thyroid, toe nail fungus (painful to him), and ear
infections. I know that a healthy way of eating can help whit the ear
infection problem but can it help with the others. The poor dog is
only 6 years ond and can hardly walk because of his hurting, cracked,
splitting nails. The vet has put him on meds which i think are a
waste of time, since they do not seem to be doing the job, but I want
to know if anyone has any insite on this or the thyroid problem?

Thanks for any input!!
Tracy

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3b. Re: Question about bad nails and thyroid
Posted by: "Casey Post" mikken@neo.rr.com mikkeny
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:21 pm ((PDT))

>I know that a healthy way of eating can help whit the ear
> infection problem but can it help with the others. The poor dog is
> only 6 years ond and can hardly walk because of his hurting, cracked,
> splitting nails.

Tracy,

Bottom line, a raw diet will provide the body with the best nutrition
possible. An unwell dog is in desperate need of good nutrition. While good
nutrition will not cure a thyroid condition, it will help the body heal as
best it can. This dog deserves the chance to at least feel better, yes?
Then raw is certainly the way to go.

My first thought with the nail loss is pemphigus. Here's a link -
http://home.comcast.net/~greyhndz/toenails.htm - from that article -

"Too many people spend too much time and money treating pemphigus as a
"fungal" (the #1 misdiagnosis) or "bacterial" infection with foot soaks,
topicals, and expensive oral medications."

Casey

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4a. Re: Coaxing to gnaw bone
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:32 pm ((PDT))

Hi, Alicia!
Welcome!

Getting out of the mindset that 'dogs must be fed in a dog dish' can help
your dog to learn to eat raw. Feed him in his regular eating place, if this
is a really happy and comfortable place for him, a place where he doesn't
feel he has to guard his food from housemates or have an audience. Put an
old towel, blanket or rug down in that spot and put the food on it.
Essentially giving him 'permission' to eat 'out of the box', can help him
learn that engaging with this new shape of food is OK. Using an ex-pen or
even a large box with the top and bottom flaps pushed in and placed around
him to keep him from trekking his food around will help him learn to focus
on the food and figure out what to do with it.

Marrow bones that you buy at the pet supply store are cooked bones. Being
beef bones, which once held up a cow, they are very dense. These are not
appropriate for dogs to chew, as this can lead to tooth breakage, wearing
off enamel and also wear down the teeth themselves, over time. I'd recommend
that you remove these bones, and only provide edible bones, so that your dog
can reap the dental, physical, mental and emotional benefits of eating raw

These links to archived messages give suggestions that can help you help
your dog to figure out that raw IS food!

*http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding/message/130758*

*Message #130758*

*http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding/message/134336*

*Message #134336*
TC and let us know how you and your dog progress!
Giselle
with Bea in New Jersey

On 10/19/07, alicia.fagan <alicia.fagan@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Anyone have suggestions for getting a dog new to raw to eat off the
> bone? This is the first week I've been trying raw with my Lhasa Apso.
> She likes the meat, but can only eat it out of the bowl; does not know
> how to tear the meat off the bone. She'll lick it or take it out of my
> hand, walk a few feet, and drop it. Strange, because she loves to gnaw
> her cooked, hollow bones. I am worried that she is not getting the
> calcium (and i do not have a grinder). I know i should give her time,
> but any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Alicia
>
>

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4b. Re: Coaxing to gnaw bone
Posted by: "sonitam" sonita@westnet.com.au sonitam
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:49 pm ((PDT))

Hi Alicia
It does sound as though she may not be hungry, rather than having no
idea what to do?? Dogs will never starve - they will eat eventually
(with the exception of being ill), so if you are giving her the bones
and she does not eat them or attempt to get the meat off them, what
else (if anything) are you giving her?
If you normally feed her twice per day, do not give her the morning
meal, then give one chicken leg only, to her, on a towel/mat.
If she carries it away, take it back and put it on the mat, saying
nothing (do not say anything to her at all). SHe will learn wuickly,
that it must stay on the mat.
If after 10 mins, she still does not eat, take away the bone, again,
without saying anything. Wait 1 hr and then try again - no coaxing
etc, just place the bone down and walk away. If she still does not
eat, take it away until the next meal.
It sounds awful, but she needs to learn that you determine when she
will eat and you alone will determine what she eats. Yes, they may
struggle to start with, but if hungry, they soon work it our.
Do not give anymore 'chew toys/bones' or treats, until she eats
properly for you. Use fresh bones, not pet shop ones - much better
for her.
If she is hiding it, then she truly isn't hungry - just don't feed
that meal.
I hope this helps, without putting you off - it really does work and
do not worry about her not eating, she will eventually. At the
moment, she know you will cut it up for her, so is just being cheeky
(but very cute I am sure!).
Sonita

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wrote:
>I tried giving her partially cut chicken legs on a towel, but she
just licks at it, doesn't know to hold it with her paws. Tries to
carry it around the house.

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5a. Re: Russell
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:43 pm ((PDT))

Hi, Renate!
Just in case you decide that you should pursue the thyroid
angle, which can be tied to vaccine damage and immune system suppression -
most vets do not do the full 6 panel blood screening. Nor do they have the
depth of knowledge that Dr Dodds' intense and deep studies and database on
all breeds and ages of dogs has allowed her to amass for diagnosis of
specific dogs. Her reports reflect this knowledge and it is why she is the
world's most respected authority on canine hypothyroidism and related
diseases.
http://www.sharpeiforums.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=000683;p=2
http://www.critterchat.net/immune.htm
http://www.dogsadversereactions.com/vDrDodds.html
http://www.foxfirepublishing.com/doddssem.html
http://www.itsfortheanimals.com/DODDS-RESUME.HTM
http://www.hemopet.com/

TC
Giselle

On 10/19/07, Renate <renate.tideswell@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Giselle. WE did a blood screen before his neuter that should
> have
> caught that. I've been trying to find the results to make sure but they
> seem be hiding. However, what I did find was his vacc records from when he
> was a puppy. My vet, my chief foster mom, and I all missed this, but after
> the 2nd set of shots (booster) he went into anaphylactic shock. So now I'm
> more and more suspicious that the seizures were related to the shots and
> the neuter. I have a call into the vet, to check but I think I'm stopping
> the meds and waiting to see if he has another seizure. In the meantime,
> getting him onto raw with the rest of my guys.
> Renate
>
>

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6a. Re: Little-dog sized bones
Posted by: "Ashley Myers" miragehairsalon@yahoo.com miragehairsalon
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:48 pm ((PDT))

Dawn,
I was very surprised by the fact that a thigh will last your Pom2-3 days, my Pom eats that per day! Do you think that's too much for her? I'm new here. How long have you been feeding your little ones ground food? The mess associated with raw feeding is really my main concern because my grandson is over and I worry if I'm clean enough with my dogs,because of the pulling and tearing (it gets on their feet, fur).I have considered doing ground for this very reason. My Pom is 11 lbs, my dauschund is 15 lbs.( a little heavy), my yorkie is 5 lbs. They all are enjoying raw.Any suggestions you ave had with your experience with little dogs would be helpful, and anyone else!!!!
Kitty
Dawn Taylor <dawnmarie1968@tx.rr.com> wrote:
"Hi,
I've got two Poms that I've been feeding ground rabbit, lamb, chicken,
etc. But I know they need something to chew on. I've been having trouble
finding any meaty bones that are size appropriate for my 6 pound and 4
pound dogs. Usually what I can find doesn't have a whole lot of meat,
just bone. Any suggestions?"

I've got two littles as well. They do great with any kind of chicken bone, cornish game hen, pork neck bone, beef ribs (they eat the meat off and play with the bone), and pork ribs. I get some really meaty chicken thighs at the grocery store, and these are perfect for them - each thigh is about 2 or 3 days worth of food for them.

The last two days, my 10 pounder has been working on a 24 ounce cornish game hen. She loves it! It's the first "big" meal I've ever given her, and she's enjoying the challenge. Of course, my other little one, a 13 lb Chiweenie, won't put out the effort required to figure out what to do with it. He's on a hunger strike right now because I insist he eat it.

Oh, and when I got Penny, she was only 4 pounds with little baby teeth and she could still eat chicken bones.

Anyway, it will surprise you what little dogs can eat!
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Dawn Taylor

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7a. Re: Bloodthirsty, Please Advise!! (was: worming)
Posted by: "Loraine Jesse" rothburg@hotmail.com loraine_jesse
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:50 pm ((PDT))

I am so very sorry for your loss.
No this had nothing to do with the diet. I suspect your dog got in prey mode, not in a feeding mode as you fear. I have had Cats longer than I have Rottweilers, tend to rescue cats from time to time. To make a huge story short one of my Rottweilers killed one of my cats. That particular dog loved to chase the cats as a pup and I used to think it was a game, she just had allot of prey drive and I did nothing to deter her. Needless to say I learned my lesson. I still have cats and dogs that live together in harmony and still feed raw.
Unfortuantely no matter what you feed, it will not stop this behaviour from happening. Kind of like having two dogs that hate each other with a passion. It is problem now and you need to take precautions so it won't happen again. Again I am sorry for your loss.
Loraine Jesse
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7b. Re: Bloodthirsty, Please Advise!! (was: worming)
Posted by: "Pepper" pepperanne14@yahoo.com pepperanne14
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:03 pm ((PDT))

ummmm I am sorry for your loss truly but there must be more to the story than that.. I have a Weimaraner and 5 small pets-- a chihuahua, 2 cats and bunnies. All dogs are capable of killing small animals (my chis are great mouse catchers) but you have to know that before you get them and train them appropriately. Dogs need to know their limits and should never be trusted until you have them trained well... that means with other pets and kids too.

Again I am really sorry you had to go through that... it must have been terrible.

Pep

T Smith <coldbeach@gmail.com> wrote: I am glad you wrote this.
I read that before I switched to raw because i have pet Guinea pigs but this
morning two of the dogs had torn open the cage (ripped the bars apart) &
killed 3 of them.
Can others PLEASE tell me you have pet rodents WITH your dogs & no
problems? I've had these piggies a year & this has NOT been a problem.
If it is the problem (raw feeding) I will have to go back to k***le.
I need some reassurring words here, these were my pets!
There's nothing like having to chase my Dane pup around the yard to get my
pet piggie whose head is half eaten!
Trina

On 10/19/07, Andrea <poketmouse45@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> That one is right up there with "If you feed your dog raw they will
> become bloodthirsty." Absolute rubbish. If you feed your dog human
> grade meat there is no reason to worry about parasite infestation. If
> you are lucky enough to get wild game you can freeze the meat for a
> couple of weeks to get rid of any beasties.
>
> <snip>
>
> Andrea
>
>

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Pep

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8.1. liver
Posted by: "hanson_jenlynn" hanson_jenlynn@yahoo.com hanson_jenlynn
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:50 pm ((PDT))

thank you all for the advice! i decided to try giving her some raw beef
liver and she gobbled it right up! apperently chicken liver isn't her
ideal meal. next week i think we're going to try pork. should i give
her pork with a bone or without? i was thinking country style pork
ribs. thanks again
~jen

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9.1. Re: Eggs
Posted by: "Pi" scribblekitten@yahoo.com scribblekitten
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:21 pm ((PDT))

Mary Anne Libcke wrote:
> I would like to add eggs to my dogs' diet in the future, but from what
> I can tell you are supposed to hand them an egg in the shell from the
> fridge? Will they really know what to do with it? How much of a mess
> is that?
>
>
My pup used to roll his eggs around a bit and play with them before
finally cracking them open. These days he just bites right down and
munches up the whole thing though :) He eats everything, shell and all,
leaving no mess. If your dog doesn't eat the shell, you could crack them
into a bowl.

-Anna +Pirate + Sunshine

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10. help!!! we're pregnant and not sure how/what to feed
Posted by: "nikkisevy@aol.com" nikkisevy@aol.com mavreenhering
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:58 pm ((PDT))

Hello,

I am inquiring about feeding a pregnant girl. She weighs 80 lbs
before pregnancy. When and how much do I increase the food. Are there any
foods I should be concerned about feeding her? I tried to check the archives but
I think I must be computer impaired because I had no luck. I apologize now
if this has already been discussed. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Nicole

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11a. Re: another egg question
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:40 pm ((PDT))

autumnji@... wrote:

> my 7# chi loves eggs. one egg = a full meal for her.
> how many of 14 meals / week can she have an egg?
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How long have you been feeding raw and how much egg experience has
your chi had? I suspect the easiest though messiest way to find out
how many egg meals your girl can have is to feed egg meals until she
has a digestive blow out. At which point you retreat.

A cleaner way is to start small, with two or three eggs a week.
Chris O

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