[rawfeeding] Digest Number 12172

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1.1. Re: Venison
From: Giselle
1.2. Venison
From: Delinda Harmon
1.3. Re: Venison
From: T Smith
1.4. Re: Venison
From: Giselle

2a. About to start
From: Lynette
2b. Re: About to start
From: T Smith

3a. Re: Pregnant female not eating (57th day)
From: joni savage
3b. Re: Pregnant female not eating (57th day)
From: Laura Atkinson
3c. Re: Pregnant female not eating (57th day)
From: joni savage
3d. Re: Pregnant female not eating (57th day)
From: nikkisevy@aol.com

4a. HOW DO I GET THERE?
From: totaly_his
4b. Re: HOW DO I GET THERE?
From: Giselle

5.1. Re: Newbie
From: T Smith

6a. Re: Just switched to raw- question
From: Bumble1994@aol.com

7.1. New Here
From: Marti

8a. Re: bin it or feed it?
From: Giselle
8b. Re: bin it or feed it?
From: costrowski75

9a. Re: {Raw Feeding} OT - My female hasn't come into heat!
From: Tina Berry

10a. New to raw feeding - loose poo
From: cwnsc
10b. Re: New to raw feeding - loose poo
From: T Smith
10c. Re: New to raw feeding - loose poo
From: cwnsc

11. sucess
From: Mary Tinder

12. Restrictive diet questions
From: Sandrea

13a. Flax seed oil
From: doreenchui
13b. Re: Flax seed oil
From: doreenchui

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1.1. Re: Venison
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:23 pm ((PDT))

Ah - Ha!

Feeding raw is a continually eye opening experience! ^_^

More fun and lots more educational than teevee.

Puts me in mind of "Dogs in Elk"
http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~solan/dogsinelk/
http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~solan/dogsinelk/validity.htm
http://tabletalk.salon.com/webx?14@@.ee90352/1317

TC, Kathie
Giselle

On 10/17/07, Kathie Middlemiss <geekgirl717@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I had thought my dogs were in love with their raw diet.
> I only believed they really loved their meals.
>
> This afternoon after handing them a venison rump roast, I see how very
> wrong I was.
>
> My three went after this hunk of meat as if they were starved. Tails
> wagging as they playfully snarfled at each other waiting their turns at
> the meat, both paws planted to hold it in place as they tore into it.
>
> Thanks to a Freecycle ad I have a half a freezer chock full of goodies
> like this as well as some moose and the promise of another phone call in
> November to give me more.
>
> *This* is how dogs should be I think!
>
> Kathie Mom to:
> Jake, Max and Ruby
>
>

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1.2. Venison
Posted by: "Delinda Harmon" dharmon@homenetnw.net delinda_harmon
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:36 pm ((PDT))

What kind of ads are you all putting on Freecycle? I always get lecture type
of responses about raw feeding, and when I asked for freezer burned meats, I
received a response asking why I'd feed my dogs something I won't eat.
Always negative responses on feeding my dogs raw meats, and as of yet have
not received a bite of meat or a positive response. The grocery stores tell
me it is illegal to give away or sell dated meat. So the destroy it somehow,
not by just putting it in dumpster. I'd appreciate some ideas on how to word
an ad, so I might be able to post to freecycle again and get a better
response and maybe some dinner for my babies.

Thank you,
Delinda

Use what talent you possess: the woods would be very silent if no birds sang
except those that sang best.
Henry Van Dyke.

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1.3. Re: Venison
Posted by: "T Smith" coldbeach@gmail.com lhasaspots
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:47 pm ((PDT))

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I just had a lady contact me to come get a shelf full of frozen meats!
I used an ad that Maggie sent to me. The wording was perfect. I got a
couple replies but there wasn't a negative one, perhaps it was the wording!

Maggie? Step on up to the pedestal, eh?
I wonder WHAT the grocery stores do do with their meats.... ancient Chinese
secret, huh?
Trina

On 10/17/07, Delinda Harmon <dharmon@homenetnw.net> wrote:
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> What kind of ads are you all putting on Freecycle? I always get lecture
> type
> of responses about raw feeding, and when I asked for freezer burned meats,
> I
> received a response asking why I'd feed my dogs something I won't eat.
> Always negative responses on feeding my dogs raw meats, and as of yet have
> not received a bite of meat or a positive response. The grocery stores
> tell
> me it is illegal to give away or sell dated meat. So the destroy it
> somehow,
> not by just putting it in dumpster. I'd appreciate some ideas on how to
> word
> an ad, so I might be able to post to freecycle again and get a better
> response and maybe some dinner for my babies.
>
> Thank you,
> Delinda
>
>

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1.4. Re: Venison
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:27 pm ((PDT))

Hi, Trina!
Most supermarket/butcher store chains have contracts to sell
expired meat to companies that sell to pet food manufacturers. Who then, of
course, cook it, add all sorts of additives and inappropriate ingredients to
it, then make the mess into Doom Nuggets *tm (Carrie! ^_^)
Sad, isn't it?
Small independent stores, I suspect, just do toss it in the dumpster.

Did ya ever read;

http://www.amazon.com/Food-Pets-Die-Shocking-Facts/dp/0939165562/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-3464703-4909651?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1192659708&sr=8-1
*http://tinyurl.com/28fy7g

*TC
Giselle

>
> <snip>
> I wonder WHAT the grocery stores do do with their meats.... ancient
> Chinese
> secret, huh?
> Trina
>
>

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2a. About to start
Posted by: "Lynette" lraefried@sbcglobal.net cherrysmomma
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:34 pm ((PDT))

I am about to start feeding Cherry her raw diet. I beleive I start with
chicken for the first couple weeks. When just starting should I take
the skin off? I thought I read something about too much fatty stuff
would not be a good idea, is skin fatty? Hope I do not sound like a
complete idiot.

Lynette

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2b. Re: About to start
Posted by: "T Smith" coldbeach@gmail.com lhasaspots
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:48 pm ((PDT))

You don't sound like an idiot :-)
I kept the skin on and all for mine.
I have 9 dogs, small & GIANT....
We are 3 weeks-ish into this and give chicken, turkey necks, hamburger &
ribs.
This is what we are sticking with for a few more weeks.
Every now & then I sneak in a bit of liver or heart if they eat it.
Trina
Chip (deaf Dalmatian)
Casper (deaf Great Dane)
Whisper (deaf Great Dane)
Louie (hearing Great Dane)
Joey (deaf & blind Lhasa Apso)
Amy (disabled Lhasa Apso)
Cassandra (disabled Lhasa Apso)
Mr Paris (Lhasa Apso)
Chloe (deaf & blind Spaniel mix)

On 10/17/07, Lynette <lraefried@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>
> I am about to start feeding Cherry her raw diet. I beleive I start with
> chicken for the first couple weeks. When just starting should I take
> the skin off? I thought I read something about too much fatty stuff
> would not be a good idea, is skin fatty? Hope I do not sound like a
> complete idiot.
>
> Lynette
>
>

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3a. Re: Pregnant female not eating (57th day)
Posted by: "joni savage" jonivelvet@yahoo.com jonivelvet
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:34 pm ((PDT))

Hi Sarah,
I think you're right. That's pretty much what we are thinking too. I've read that poms can whelp earlier than the standard 9 weeks, so she could definitely be ready to go. Thanks for your reply and reassurance. By the way, her status is the same: still not eating, refusing to come out of the whelping box, a few moans every now and then. Not digging quite as much as she was at 4:30 this morning. I offered her some lunch but she was not interested. So I think we are within hours of the big event. Thanks again.
Joni

Maofryan@aol.com wrote: Joni
All bitches go off food when they are ready to whelp...it is one of the
signs of early labor. I have GSDs all the time at 58 days...you will be fine.
Sarah

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3b. Re: Pregnant female not eating (57th day)
Posted by: "Laura Atkinson" llatkinson@gmail.com lauraatkinson2002
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:45 pm ((PDT))

The period of gestation is 63 days...from the date of ovulation. Breeding
can happen either before or after ovulation and still take, but the puppies,
extraordinary circumstances notwithstanding, will be born 63 days from the
date of ovulation. If you don't do progesterone testing, then you're using
a "best guess" to determine when the due date is based on when you had ties.

It's normal, I've read, for bitches who are within a day of whelping to
decide they're done eating for a bit. Keeping vanilla ice cream around for
a bitch in whelp is a good idea. It adds a little bit of sugar (energy)
during the whelping process and the calcium will keep contractions strong.
I'm not sure where you find "raw" vanilla icecream though, so go for the
stuff that's got as few chemical names in the ingredients as possible.

--
Laura A
Kaos Siberians http://www.kaossiberians.com
Forget love...I'd rather fall in chocolate.

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3c. Re: Pregnant female not eating (57th day)
Posted by: "joni savage" jonivelvet@yahoo.com jonivelvet
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:06 pm ((PDT))

***MODERATOR'S NOTE: TRIM YOUR MESSAGES OR THEY WILL BE DELETED.***

Sounds like Haagen Daaz to me! Maybe the light version so it won't be too rich. I had read the ice cream tip in several places, but recall reading that is better to hold off until after the whelping to give any extra calcium?

Thanks for the gestation info. Yes, I was making my calculation from the date of the first tie, and had forgotten about the unknowns of the actual conception.

At this point, I'm figuring she's within 24 hours of whelping and she must have enough nutrition in her system to get her through it. Like I said in a previous post, she's been eating pretty healthy portions for the last week or so.

Thanks for your reply!
Joni

Laura Atkinson <llatkinson@gmail.com> wrote: The period of gestation is 63 days...from the date of ovulation. Breeding
can happen either before or after ovulation and still take, but the puppies,
extraordinary circumstances notwithstanding, will be born 63 days from the
date of ovulation. If you don't do progesterone testing, then you're using
a "best guess" to determine when the due date is based on when you had ties.

It's normal, I've read, for bitches who are within a day of whelping to
decide they're done eating for a bit. Keeping vanilla ice cream around for
a bitch in whelp is a good idea. It adds a little bit of sugar (energy)
during the whelping process and the calcium will keep contractions strong.
I'm not sure where you find "raw" vanilla icecream though, so go for the
stuff that's got as few chemical names in the ingredients as possible.

--
Laura A
Kaos Siberians http://www.kaossiberians.com

Forget love...I'd rather fall in chocolate.

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3d. Re: Pregnant female not eating (57th day)
Posted by: "nikkisevy@aol.com" nikkisevy@aol.com mavreenhering
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:54 pm ((PDT))

Joni,

Keep us posted on the big event. I hope all goes well and you have
healthy, happy pups and mom.

Nicole

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4a. HOW DO I GET THERE?
Posted by: "totaly_his" totaly_his@yahoo.com totaly_his
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:35 pm ((PDT))

Hi, I am new to this forum and I sent a message about what to give for a treat to my raw
feeding dog. The Moderator sent me a message telling me to go to "Raw Chat" for this
discussion. How do I get there? Thanks so much and thanks for your time moderating this
forum Jackie

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4b. Re: HOW DO I GET THERE?
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:11 pm ((PDT))

Hi, Jackie!
Welcome!
This raw feeding list is high volume, a LOT of people that are looking for
answers and help post here. So the solution, to keep the responses doable,
is to restrict the topics here to the "Why?" "What?" "When?" "Where?" and
"How To?" of raw feeding for newbies and to redirect the off topic subjects
to Raw Chat, a sister list;
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/RawChat/?yguid=200913350

There have been many discussions on RAW treats on this list;

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding/message/142146

message # 142146
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding/msearch?date=any&DM=------------&DD=----&DY=----&DM2=------------&DD2=----&DY2=----&AM=contains&AT=&SM=contains&ST=treats&MM=contains&MT=&charset=UTF-8
*http://tinyurl.com/3ymqm7*

and Raw Chat;
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/RawChat/msearch?date=any&DM=------------&DD=----&DY=----&DM2=------------&DD2=----&DY2=----&AM=contains&AT=&SM=contains&ST=treats&MM=contains&MT=&charset=UTF-8
*http://tinyurl.com/39ybk5
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HTHs, Jackie!
Giselle
with Bea in New Jersey

On 10/17/07, totaly_his <totaly_his@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Hi, I am new to this forum and I sent a message about what to give for a
> treat to my raw
> feeding dog. The Moderator sent me a message telling me to go to "Raw
> Chat" for this
> discussion. How do I get there? Thanks so much and thanks for your time
> moderating this
> forum Jackie
>
>

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5.1. Re: Newbie
Posted by: "T Smith" coldbeach@gmail.com lhasaspots
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:36 pm ((PDT))

Hi Michelle, I am one of those "neat freaks" Catherine mentions :-)
My best solution was to use crates for the dogs to eat in. Easy to clean
when done.
The rest of the cleaning would be like she says.... same as for humans. I
tend to use alot of bleach though & mop alot when they get the ribs because
they chew on them on the floor instead of in their crates since it takes
them a long time to enjoy.
Dogs usually clean themselves or each other really well. If they have long
hair you can trim it or braid it... also long ears can be put in a snood.
Trina

On 10/17/07, Morledzep@aol.com <Morledzep@aol.com> wrote:
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> In a message dated 10/17/2007 7:59:43 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> m.chelap@sbcglobal.net <m.chelap%40sbcglobal.net> writes:
>
> Good to know! I'm trying to imagine some logistics. Where to feed the dog
> in our house,
> whether to use a rug or mat or some other idea, what to use for clean up,
> what about wiping
> the dogs paws or beard....tips?
>
>

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6a. Re: Just switched to raw- question
Posted by: "Bumble1994@aol.com" Bumble1994@aol.com bumble1994
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:45 pm ((PDT))

"reachpanda" <reachpanda@rea> wrote:
> what about the prepackaged raw patties? I want to feed her 100% on my
own, but what
> about keeping some patties on hand for emergencies?

*****

Can't speak for emergencies with feeding dogs, but when I first started
rawfeeding my 3 cats at the time of the pet food recalls in March, I was worried
about having something safe on hand "for emergencies." So I bought first 2
cans to sample (they loved it), then a 24-can case of the best no-grain cat
food I could find.

I still have the entire, unopened case. I must not have had any
"emergencies." :)

Lynda

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7.1. New Here
Posted by: "Marti" pioneertown@cox.net martidrost
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:47 pm ((PDT))

Hi,
Just wanted to introduce myself. I have a 8 yr. old pug, a 2 yr. old
French bulldog and a 9 week old French bulldog that we are keeping from
our litter we just had. I am totally new to raw feeding and I am
anxious to learn all I can. I have heard that the flat faced breeds are
notorious for gulping their food and that feeding raw could lead to
choking. Anyone care to comment or have any experience with that sort
of thing? If it is true, then, would it be ok to just give them smaller
pieces? Just wondering!
Thanks,
Marti

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8a. Re: bin it or feed it?
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:58 pm ((PDT))

Hi, Donna!
Umm,that would be Brawn, or in my neck of the woods (New
Jersey, not too far from Pennsylvania Dutch country), Souse!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_cheese
http://www.karlehmer.com/ProductImages/0375SuelzeLarge.jpg

I like red beet pickled eggs better;
http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Pennsylvania-Dutch-Pickled-Beets-and-Eggs/Detail.aspx
http://images.allrecipes.com/site/allrecipes/area/community/userphoto/small/7342.jpg

An some cracklin's would be lovely - fried pork rinds just aren't the same.

TC
Giselle
with Bea in New Jersey

<snip>
You know, it might be that no one eats fresh made still greasy

> > crackling any more. I grew up with it but I sure nuf don't make it.
> > Goes along with the headcheese and pickled eggs...gone, gone.
>

<snip>
>

> I'm glad you wrote. Do it more often, stranger.
> > Chris O
>

ps
> what the h**l is headcheese? lol!
>
> love
> donna
>
> pps
> got any sheep yet?
>
>

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8b. Re: bin it or feed it?
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:26 pm ((PDT))

Giselle <megan.giselle@...> wrote:

> Umm,that would be Brawn, or in my neck of the woods
(New
> Jersey, not too far from Pennsylvania Dutch country), Souse!
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_cheese
> http://www.karlehmer.com/ProductImages/0375SuelzeLarge.jpg
>
> I like red beet pickled eggs better;
> http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Pennsylvania-Dutch-Pickled-Beets-and-
Eggs/Detail.aspx
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Okay, so it's OT but it's food. And some of it is food people might
otherwise give to their dogs. Probably even raw.

From my Swedish grammy it was headcheese (Barnegat Light, Wildwood)
but we also lived in Lititz which is about as Pennsylvania Dutch as
you can get. The pickled red beet eggs were from Lititz, big jars of
them. The pickled herring was Swedish but the pickled pig's feet
were Polish.

All good.
Chris O

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9a. Re: {Raw Feeding} OT - My female hasn't come into heat!
Posted by: "Tina Berry" k9baron@gmail.com k9antje
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:54 pm ((PDT))

"My Whippet mix who's not quite 10 months old hasn't come into heat, yet!"

My gsd pup had her first heat at 12 months; up to 15 months is normal for
the first heat.
--
Tina Berry - MT
Kriegshund German Shepherds
Working Lines ~ Naturally Reared
www.kriegshundgsds.com

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10a. New to raw feeding - loose poo
Posted by: "cwnsc" cwells5@charter.net cwnsc
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:54 pm ((PDT))

Hello all, I began raw feeding w/my 3 yr old male golden retriever
this Sunday. I started him with a split chicken breast and he only ate
the leg. I reserved the remaining portion for the next night and he
ate that along with the an entire split piece Monday. I was thinking
Yahoo - here, we go!! However, Monday afternoon, Tuesday, and again
this morning, he had diahreeah (it is very difficult to clean up the
hind quarters on a golden <grin> and he is an inside dog. Bad doggie
farts would be much easier to deal with!

I only know of the diahreeah from the evidence on the fur of the hind
quarters and tail. He has much vanity and goes behind a tree line
that I cannot access! I'm assuming it's just the change-over from
kibble to raw. He did not go tonight. I hate to cut his fur as it
makes his beauty.

I'm hoping the rawfeeding will help with his skin problems. He is
currently on prednisone which I'm not fond of.

Cindy

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10b. Re: New to raw feeding - loose poo
Posted by: "T Smith" coldbeach@gmail.com lhasaspots
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:34 pm ((PDT))

Add some chicken neck? Others would be better to confirm that but turkey
neck made my big guys right on normal poop....something they NEVER had until
raw (with) the necks. We add neck every day now. Perhaps it's just this
breed that is sensitive. My Lhasas are doing well on a drumstick twice
daily, but that's alot of bone for them, they chew them up when eating,
where the giants tend to swallow more whole so I think the Lhasas get more
out of the bone at each meal.
I'm guessing here, I'm very new to raw :-)
Trina

On 10/17/07, cwnsc <cwells5@charter.net> wrote:
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> I was thinking
> Yahoo - here, we go!! However, Monday afternoon, Tuesday, and again
> this morning, he had diahreeah (it is very difficult to clean up the
> hind quarters on a golden <grin> and he is an inside dog. Bad doggie
> farts would be much easier to deal with!
>
>

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10c. Re: New to raw feeding - loose poo
Posted by: "cwnsc" cwells5@charter.net cwnsc
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:48 pm ((PDT))

Thanks for the info. I will keep at it. I truly believe raw is the
way to go!

Cindy

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11. sucess
Posted by: "Mary Tinder" mtinder@tinderco.com mmmaryt
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:55 pm ((PDT))

MODERATORS NOTE:SIGN YOUR MAILS!!

We spent over an hour watching our dogs eat the chicken, a
huge "roaster" that could have been mistaken for a small turkey.
Absolutely fascinated both of us watching the Dane learn how to cope.
It didn't take too long for the others, smaller dogs, to finish their
portions.

Thanks to all for guidance. It still amazes me the incredible resourse
this internet has become.

My goat will be ready Friday, cut to order, with hide!

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12. Restrictive diet questions
Posted by: "Sandrea" misssweetpeas@verizon.net sandreaelyse
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:56 pm ((PDT))

MODERATORS NOTE:SIGN YOUR MAILS!!!!!!!

I have been raw feeding my crew since last March and the first food
recall. I have three dogs and three cats. My dogs are:

1. Greta, 60 pound female bernese mountain dog
2. Cliff, 100 pound male great pyrenees dog
3. Louie, 26 pound mutt

My dogs are currently eating primarily chicken. They eat the meat,
the bones, and the fat. When eating only chicken they do just
fine. Anytime I add some other food to their repertoire, even just
small amounts, I get liquid diarrhea in the house on the rugs. What
does seem to work is an occassional fish treat, such as a smelt
each, or an ocassional chicken liver as a treat. They all seem to
do best having bone with every meal as opposed to some bony meals
and some all meat meals. They also seem to do best with appropriate
sized meals as opposed to eating a large meaty bone with tons of
meat and less bone for a meal and then a lesser amount of food for
the next meal. They are fed once a day.

When I say they don't do well on the other foods, I mean that they
are having liquid runny stools. I seem to have the mix of bone and
meat down fine with the chicken. They do okay with ocassional lamb
although that is pretty pricy. Beef seems to go right through them
although if I give a beef rib or two as a supplement they do okay as
long as it is once in a week not more often than that. I have tried
adding spleen and beef liver without luck. They seemed to do well
on beef heart but I only found it one time at the very beginning of
our raw feeding program. I have fed chicken hearts as a meal and if
I give some bone too they can do this once in a while.

My vet is all in favor of a raw diet with the exception of pork as
she says trichinosis has not been totally eradicated yet. I have
fed pork at the beginning and they love it but unless I can find
some sort of bone to balance out the large amounts of meat on the
roast I get diarrhea.

My vet at this point is saying to supplement the dogs with a multi-
vitamin (Natural Pet Daily Canine Multi-Vitamin, Solid Gold or Nupro
multi-vitamin). I have only ever added one item at a time and I
always go back to the all chicken until stools are stable again and
then try something else again. We somehow always end up back at
chicken.

I am open to any advice I can get. I am quite happy feeding raw
unless a diet such as they seem to tolerate is less healthy than a
quality kibble.
Thanks for the help.
Sandrea

So, my question is two fold:
1. Why can't they tolerate anything but chicken without diarrhea?
Soft stools I can understand, but that is not what I am talking
about. I am talking about liquid squirting out when they defacate.

2. Are they okay just eating a diet of chicken getting perhaps 2-3
chicken livers a week. They will all eat cornish game hen fine
although it is quite bony for the two larger dogs. With the
exception of Greta the others will also eat rabbit, but again it's
quite bony. Rabbit is the only food Greta has ever declined and she
has gone days without eating rather than accept the rabbit. I am
allowing her her one dislike. Louie, my mutt, has had pretty
regular bouts of diarrhea and then began throwing up recently. The
vet put him on antibiotics last Friday for what she terms "garbage
gut" and he has been just fine since.

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13a. Flax seed oil
Posted by: "doreenchui" doreenchui@yeos.com doreenchui
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:34 pm ((PDT))

I am feeding my dogs Flax seed oil(in oil form). I often buy 6 bottles
at one time. I now have 1 bottle that have expired end August. Is it ok
to feed?
Doreen

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13b. Re: Flax seed oil
Posted by: "doreenchui" doreenchui@yeos.com doreenchui
Date: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:47 pm ((PDT))

I forgot to add, it's chilled.
Doreen
--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "doreenchui" <doreenchui@...> wrote:
>
> I am feeding my dogs Flax seed oil(in oil form). I often buy 6
bottles
> at one time. I now have 1 bottle that have expired end August. Is it
ok
> to feed?
> Doreen
>

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