[rawfeeding] Digest Number 12163

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: FEEDING SCHEDULE
From: Denise Strother
1b. Re: FEEDING SCHEDULE
From: Denise Strother

2a. Re: New dog, feeding question
From: jennifer_hell
2b. Re: New dog, feeding question
From: Andrea

3.1. confused
From: jean2armstrong
3.2. Re: confused
From: Andrea
3.3. Re: confused
From: katkellm

4a. HELP!! Dog just ate a whole twix bar - should I induce vomiting??
From: Alexander Dewey

5a. Re: Bad Doggy farts - what can you do?? (sorry to be graphic)
From: costrowski75
5b. Re: Bad Doggy farts - what can you do?? (sorry to be graphic)
From: Andrea

6a. ADMIN/Re: Hives, Dogs get hives?(OT, about hives)
From: costrowski75

7a. Advice for small dogs...
From: nowagner5
7b. Re: Advice for small dogs...
From: Michelle LaFay
7c. Re: Advice for small dogs...
From: caroline gebbie
7d. Re: Advice for small dogs...
From: T Smith

8a. Re: a question on beef
From: Andrea

9. Raw feeding info and literature in Spanish?
From: alexanderdewey

10. Puppy with the runs
From: Monica

11.1. Re: constipated dog
From: Vom Eishenblick Rottweilers
11.2. Re: constipated dog
From: saspiero23
11.3. Re: constipated dog
From: katkellm

12a. Re: Watery stools -but not diarrhoea HELP
From: Andrea

13a. Re: Here we go....
From: Andrea

14a. Re: Bad Doggy farts - Re: Killer Tooters
From: Shirley

15. Intro to Fran and Nugget
From: Fran

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1a. Re: FEEDING SCHEDULE
Posted by: "Denise Strother" denisestrother@yahoo.com denisestrother
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:30 am ((PDT))

I feed this way because my dogs like eating huge meals occaisionally.
One would eat this way all of the time if it was up to her. Denise

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "T Smith" <coldbeach@...> wrote:
I am asking this nicely: What is the point of this type of feeding?

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1b. Re: FEEDING SCHEDULE
Posted by: "Denise Strother" denisestrother@yahoo.com denisestrother
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:49 am ((PDT))

Be aware that there are a lot of us feeding really small dogs once a
day or less with no blood sugar issues. I have two 5lbers. Sweetie had
bile vomit problems associated with low blood sugar on kibble, but on
raw she feeds once a day or less if she has a gorge size meal. If a
dog is underweight when I get it or a puppy, it eats more than once a
day. I have fed 3lb adults once a day on raw with no blood sugar
problems. Denise

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "tottime47" <tottime@...> wrote: Hi
Nancy,
I have small dogs and need to feed twice a day, as they can get low
blood sugar easier.

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2a. Re: New dog, feeding question
Posted by: "jennifer_hell" jenniferhell@web.de jennifer_hell
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:30 am ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, cesar valdez <chorizo4662@...> wrote:
Ive stopped chopping up the food for
> my Pitbull and ive given him whole hearts and tongues
> cut into 4-5 big chunks. He refuses to eat them that
> way. I was once told not to worry, if he gets hungry
> enough, he'll eat them. he wont "let himself starve".

My pitbull refuses "glibbery" stuff too, I have to cut it into
smallish pieces. I believe that's totally okay as long as she eats RMB
in large chunks.

Jennifer with Mandy

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2b. Re: New dog, feeding question
Posted by: "Andrea" poketmouse45@yahoo.com poketmouse45
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:21 am ((PDT))

Are you sure your dog isn't getting food from somewhere else? I find
it amazing that a dog would go seven days without any food and still be
energetic and playful. Is he losing weight? Has he gone poo recently?

If he's acting fine, he clearly isn't starving himself to death. I
would verify that he doesn't have an alternative source of food.

Andrea

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, cesar valdez <chorizo4662@...> wrote:

> Well, its been 7 whole days and nothing, he still acts
> the same in EVERY way, continues to play with the
> other 2 dogs like normal. Drinks water regularly and
> again, acts the same.

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3.1. confused
Posted by: "jean2armstrong" jean2armstrong@yahoo.ca jean2armstrong
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:49 am ((PDT))

++++Mod note: please sign your emails +++++++++

I have a 3 mo. border collie/husky....with lots of energy....she has
been on high quality kibble...and doing great...beautiful coat...vet
says she is in good health...so here are my questions...if the vet says
she is in excellent health now why should I change her diet....how many
times a day does one feed this raw food...should the fish be dead or
alive...what bones can she NOT have...and how do you know how much to
feed her....and how do I get her started on this raw diet...

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3.2. Re: confused
Posted by: "Andrea" poketmouse45@yahoo.com poketmouse45
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:14 am ((PDT))

> if the vet says she is in excellent health now why should I change
> her diet

There are lots and lots of reasons to change her diet. First of all,
you are currently feeding her grains and such that her body doesn't
need or use. Two, unless you brush her teeth regularly I would bet
that she has tartar on her teeth and "dog breath." These are early
signs of mouth disease and can lead to serious health problems (check
out Dr. Tom Lonsdale's "Raw Meaty Bones" and "Work Wonders" for more
info on the hidden health problems caused by processed foods.

Some of the benefits that people see right off the bat are: glossier
coat, cleaner teeth, no doggy odor, no dog breath.

> how many times a day does one feed this raw food

My puppy eats every day, the young adult usually eats every other day.

> should the fish be dead or alive

For moral reasons I wouln't feed live animals to my dogs. They
aren't skilled hunters and wouldn't dispatch the critter very quickly.

> what bones can she NOT have

Cooked bones. I don't give the weight bearing (leg) bones of large
animals because they are dense enough to damage teeth.

> and how do you know how much to feed her

Start with about 2% of her ideal adult weight.

> and how do I get her started on this raw diet

That's easy! Buy a whole chicken, cut it into quarters, feed to
dog. Feed through whole chickens (don't give the organs yet) for a
week or two so her digestive system gets into gear. That's it,
really.

Andrea

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3.3. Re: confused
Posted by: "katkellm" katkellm@yahoo.com katkellm
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:31 am ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "jean2armstrong"
<jean2armstrong@...> if the vet says
> she is in excellent health now why should I change her diet

Hi,
The problem with feeding an inappropriate diet to a species-aka
kibble, no matter what the price tag- is that the ill effects of the
diet are cumulative and are often not apparent early in life. Some
grain here, a preservative there, mixed in with some veggies, plus a
lot of high temp cooking which destroy the nutrients in the meat and
alter its digestibility assault the body, of some dogs, in slow but
steady jabs which lead to health issues down the road. For some dogs,
the assault of eating what the dog should not be eating is an all out
invasion. Those are the puppies that have been sickly their whole
life. Now i am not saying that everything that goes wrong with a dog
is directly connected to diet, genetics and such play key roles, but
what i am saying is that the best way to minimize the chance of
disease and to stack the odds in your dog's favor, is to stick to the
plan that was written by Mother Nature and has allowed wolves to
survive in the wild under what would be considered deplorable
conditions for our dogs. That plan is to feed our dogs, who as direct
descendant of the grey wolf are carnivore, a carnivorous diet. Here
we call it the raw food prey model diet. On the non technical side of
things, feeding raw is just way more fun for your dog. Nice to meet
you, KathyM

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4a. HELP!! Dog just ate a whole twix bar - should I induce vomiting??
Posted by: "Alexander Dewey" alexanderdewey@yahoo.com alexanderdewey
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:02 am ((PDT))

THANKS EVERYBODY!! Gigi is FINE!

I know a twix is mostly cracker and caramel - and with only MILK
chocholate on the outside but I was still worried.

She also ate the part of the wrapper that had the nutrition
info - but I know it had a ton of sugar.. That was my other big
concern.

But she appears fine this morning. Thanks everybody :)

Alex Dewey

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5a. Re: Bad Doggy farts - what can you do?? (sorry to be graphic)
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:11 am ((PDT))

"kaebruney" <kaebruney@...> wrote:
> Sorry to be graphic, but there is no other way to put it.
*****
Life is graphic. Bring it on.

> But those tooters are killer!If he lets one go in the other room, as
> soon I as walk in I think someone had a diarrhea episode... it
stinks
> that bad!!I asked some other pet owners and they suggested adding
> plain yogurt to his diet. Well two weeks later, he STILL does it.
*****
Yogurt is not likely to do much; a real digestive enzyme may help
though, as long as you find one that addresses the menu. For
example, a heavily plant-based product will do dah. So Prozyme for
instance would be useless.

What has he been eating? You will probably have to adjust his menu to
suit him, rather than adjusting him to fit what others eat. Having
the ability to endlessly tweak a dog's diet is both a blessing and a
curse. My guess is appropriate adjustment plus more time on the job
will be the solution.
Chris O

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5b. Re: Bad Doggy farts - what can you do?? (sorry to be graphic)
Posted by: "Andrea" poketmouse45@yahoo.com poketmouse45
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:01 am ((PDT))

Both of my dogs get pretty bad gas when they are introduced to new
foods. After a couple of weeks they usually go away. There are some
foods that it appears will always turn one or the other into Mr.
Stinkybutt. During the summer it hasn't been much of a problem since
the windows were always open, but I think eggs and lamb may be
offered less often now that cold weather is here.

If you can find out which foods are causing the gas you can feed it
less often. Truth be told, I'm not bothered as much as I used to be
by the stinky farts.

Andrea

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "kaebruney" <kaebruney@...> wrote:

> My 2/3yr old AmBull has KILLER doggy toots.. I mean awful! He's been
> on raw for about 2.5 mos now (fostered him for a rescue and decided
> to keep him) and is doing great! His teeth are cleaned, his doggy
> funk is gone and he has the sweetest cleanest breath for a big ol
> lump! *lol*
>
> But those tooters are killer!If he lets one go in the other room, as
> soon I as walk in I think someone had a diarrhea episode... it
> stinks that bad!!

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6a. ADMIN/Re: Hives, Dogs get hives?(OT, about hives)
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:16 am ((PDT))

Announcing ahead of time that a subject is OT doesn't making posting it
okay. I recommend moving the subject of hives to RawChat or DogHealth,
where such issues are readily discussed.
Thank you.
Chris O
Moderation Team

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7a. Advice for small dogs...
Posted by: "nowagner5" nowagner@gmail.com nowagner5
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:31 am ((PDT))

Hello!

I am hoping someone on this list can give me some advice so that I
can help spread the word! I have been raw feeding my dalmation/black
lab mix dog for almost a year now with great success. She is a
garbage disposal and eats EVERYTHING I give her (including liver!).

Anyway, here comes my real question.
My mother has 3 long hair chihuahuas 2, 8, and 9 years old. They
have been kibble fed their entire lives. Every time I go to her
house, it just kills me to look at them. They are very lethargic,
dull coats, terrible teeth, etc.

I have been trying to convince her to give raw feeding a try, but her
biggest concern is that her older dogs are missing a decent amount of
teeth and she is worried that they wouldn't be able to handle
anything with bone in it.

Does anyone have any experience with this? I have been telling her
that they should be able to handle chicken wings (they are all under
10 pounds, 2 of them under 5 pounds). Is this true? Or are there
any other alternatives for a dog with bad teeth?

I know that feeding them a good diet would help their health so much,
I just need to get my mother feeling better about the diet to get her
going.

Thanks for any advice,

Nate & Bessy

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7b. Re: Advice for small dogs...
Posted by: "Michelle LaFay" mblafay@gmail.com mblafay
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:46 am ((PDT))

My mom has a 4lb, 14yr old long haired chihuahua with bad teeth who she just
switched to raw in the last few months (finally!!) and he has no issues with
even chicken legs & thighs. I have a 10lb, 9yr old chihuahua/dachsund who
only has one bottom front tooth now and it hardly slows her down at all. She
can handle anything I give her.

On 10/15/07, nowagner5 <nowagner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> Anyway, here comes my real question.
> My mother has 3 long hair chihuahuas 2, 8, and 9 years old...
> I have been trying to convince her to give raw feeding a try, but her
> biggest concern is that her older dogs are missing a decent amount of
> teeth and she is worried that they wouldn't be able to handle
> anything with bone in it.
> Nate & Bessy
>
>

--
Michelle - The Future Mrs Foley!
mblafay@gmail.com

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7c. Re: Advice for small dogs...
Posted by: "caroline gebbie" caz320ml@yahoo.com caz320ml
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:37 am ((PDT))

Hi

I am new to raw feeding, just a few weeks, but my 11 year old boxer has no front teeth at all, we call her gummy bear among other things. She took to this with relish and has no problems, I think once they get it they adapt.

Also I wasn't going to tell my mum i was raw feeding till i had been doing it a bit longer, she came over and saw Londo and said wow what are you doing with him - he is seven but has a narrowing of his spine, probably accident at breeder, he has never been able to use his back legs properly and has always been happy but lethergic, he has a new lease of life.

Sorry long but can't resist, Bonnie my other boxer has CDRM, like mutiple sclerosis and uses a cart, at the weekend, she did lots of walking we went to a treasure island and she walked for miles, i took her out the cart to rest, and the kids were throsing Londo's ball, next thing she's tearing across the grass, on her front legs, back dragged behind her to try and get that ball.

One very happy mum.

Hope that helps

Caroline, London and Bonnie the Brave

nowagner5 <nowagner@gmail.com> wrote:
. They are very lethargic,
dull coats, terrible teeth, etc.

I have been trying to convince her to give raw feeding a try, but her
biggest concern is that her older dogs are missing a decent amount of
teeth and she is worried that they wouldn't be able to handle
anything with bone in it.

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7d. Re: Advice for small dogs...
Posted by: "T Smith" coldbeach@gmail.com lhasaspots
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:29 am ((PDT))

I know others will help you with talking to your mum....
If the dog already has bad teeth, this needs to be addressed first: no diet
is going to fix already rotten teeth, exposed nerves or infected gums.
She needs to have any old broken, rotted teeth removed, then home to a fresh
new diet of raw to save the remaining teeth.
Amy didn't have but half her teeth: they start with 42 when a few months
ago, 11 more were removed. She eats chicken legs with NO problems! Amy a
10 lb disabled Lhasa Apso I was worried about putting on raw.

The lethargy could be thyroid, too but please tell her to have a geriatric
panel ran on the old guys, get old rotten teeth pulled then start on raw
right away!
I feed a leg drumstick twice a day. They are doing fine at their small size
& I add in a piece of turkey neck. A whole one is much to big for them, but
1/3 seems great.

Take care
Trina
Blessed to be owned by:

--
Chip (deaf Dalmatian)
Casper (deaf Great Dane)
Whisper (deaf Great Dane)
Louie (hearing Great Dane)
Joey (deaf & blind Lhasa Apso)
Amy (disabled Lhasa Apso)
Cassandra (disabled Lhasa Apso)
Mr Paris (Lhasa Apso)
Chloe (deaf & blind Spaniel mix)

On 10/15/07, nowagner5 <nowagner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> I am hoping someone on this list can give me some advice so that I
> can help spread the word! I have been raw feeding my dalmation/black
> lab mix dog for almost a year now with great success. She is a
> garbage disposal and eats EVERYTHING I give her (including liver!).
>
> Anyway, here comes my real question.
> My mother has 3 long hair chihuahuas 2, 8, and 9 years old. They
> have been kibble fed their entire lives. Every time I go to her
> house, it just kills me to look at them. They are very lethargic,
> dull coats, terrible teeth, etc.
>
>

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8a. Re: a question on beef
Posted by: "Andrea" poketmouse45@yahoo.com poketmouse45
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:36 am ((PDT))

Yeah, adding beef in the first few weeks might cause some not so nice
stools. Best to keep with chicken for now and slowly add some beef
into regular chicken meals.

Beef rib slabs are good fun for my boys, but they don't eat the bones
anre there isn't much meat on the slabs. For beef meat I usually get
them whole hearts and tongues. Roasts are often just too expensive for
wolf chow. Just add small amounts of your next protein and you'll
reduce the occurance of loose stools. You can also think about making
pork your next protein source since it is a much cheaper red meat than
beef often is.

Andrea

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "kickrocks54" <kick_rocks54@...>
wrote:

> last couple days hes been having some nasty mucusy stool. im actually
> getting a little discouraged. ill probably take it easy on the beef
> and stick to chicken quarters as his main staple for a bit.

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9. Raw feeding info and literature in Spanish?
Posted by: "alexanderdewey" alexanderdewey@yahoo.com alexanderdewey
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:05 am ((PDT))

Can anyone suggest a good publication or on-line resource which
discusses raw feeding (whole prey model) in Spanish?

Thanks,

Alex Dewey

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10. Puppy with the runs
Posted by: "Monica" mommyof2gals@comcast.net mommyof2gals
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:36 am ((PDT))

My 2-lb pom pup (15 weeks) is not capable with her puppy teeth to eat
enough bone to offset her meat meals and consequently has such very
loose stools that she cannot hold long enough to get outside. It is
hindering potty training and, well, just plain messy. I even have bone
leftover with chicken wings.

Any suggestions for firming up her stools until she masters the art of
the bone?

Thanks
Monica in IL

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11.1. Re: constipated dog
Posted by: "Vom Eishenblick Rottweilers" vomeishenblick@hotmail.com vomeishenblick
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:36 am ((PDT))

she is pooping but it's very hard and big. is painful to her. there is
some blood in it as well. should I be concerned about this ??

Brenda Dumesnil

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "angela182548" <angela182548@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Vom Eishenblick Rottweilers"
> <vomeishenblick@> wrote:
> >
> > one of my girls is constipated not sure what to do . she has been
> > trying hard to poop. forcing alot ect...
>
> I was just wondering if your little girl is doing better?
> Angela
>

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11.2. Re: constipated dog
Posted by: "saspiero23" saspiero23@yahoo.com saspiero23
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:35 am ((PDT))

Hi,

My doberman puppy is just 2 months old.I made a immediete change to
Raw Food once I brought her in 3days ago.
Last 2days she has been pooping well.As of today....she did not pop
until like very very late and its very watery.I also noticed that
its hard for her to poop.Whenever she tries,there seem to be some
blood and watery liquid discharged.I'm worried if the change is
causing all this.

I feed her with chicken breast.She dont seem to chew them but tend
to gobble them down.Should I take her to the vet or wait and see if
it improved?

Sasi

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Vom Eishenblick Rottweilers"
<vomeishenblick@...> wrote:
>
> she is pooping but it's very hard and big. is painful to her.
there is
> some blood in it as well. should I be concerned about this ??
>
> Brenda Dumesnil
>
>
> --- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "angela182548" <angela182548@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Vom Eishenblick Rottweilers"
> > <vomeishenblick@> wrote:
> > >
> > > one of my girls is constipated not sure what to do . she has
been
> > > trying hard to poop. forcing alot ect...
> >
> > I was just wondering if your little girl is doing better?
> > Angela
> >
>

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11.3. Re: constipated dog
Posted by: "katkellm" katkellm@yahoo.com katkellm
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:35 am ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Vom Eishenblick Rottweilers"
<vomeishenblick@...> wrote:
> she is pooping but it's very hard and big.

Hi Brenda,
Normally, too much bone will cause a dog to get constipated. I am not
sure how long or what you have been feeding, but a quick answer would
be to decrease the bone and add some liver to a meal. More info,
sorry if i missed it with all the posts, would be helpful. KathyM

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12a. Re: Watery stools -but not diarrhoea HELP
Posted by: "Andrea" poketmouse45@yahoo.com poketmouse45
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:38 am ((PDT))

I would bet the loose stools are a result of the larger meal. Her
stomach probably wasn't ready to digest all the food at one time is
all. She'll get used to it in a day or two and then she'll be fine.

Andrea

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "mrskheath" <mrskheath@...> wrote:

> recently I shifted her on to having the same as him - 1 meal.
> Yesterday she passed stools - I noticed that they were small stools -
> 3 or 4 'pieces' about 2 - 3 cm each, but were in a watery gloopy
> substance. Is this down to the switch to just 1 meal?

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13a. Re: Here we go....
Posted by: "Andrea" poketmouse45@yahoo.com poketmouse45
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:48 am ((PDT))

Hi, Jennifer, I'm going to recap what you found and give you some
ideas on meals.

Chicken: found backs, necks, gizzards, feet
Necks you can save for the cat, backs with gizzards can be a meal but
I think for the time being you should get some chicken quarters so
you don't have to fuss with adding meaty meat to meals. Feet are
good treats for both dog and cat (if the cat likes them).

Pork: hocks
I'm assuming these hocks are raw and not smoked, and probably cut
into about 3" pieces. These might suit your cat better than the
pup. I err on the side of caution when it comes to small things a
dog may try to swallow whole.

Beef: liver and tripe
For now you can stash the liver in the freezer, but it will come in
handy later. Pups generally tolerate variety well, but you'll want
to make sure of this before adding liver. When you do add it, just
give a fingernail sized portion at first. Unfortunately the tripe
you bought is boiled and bleached for human consumption. It isn't
the smelly goodness that we refer to as green tripe. You can choose
to toss it or let the pup wrestle with it, but it isn't much in the
way of food anymore.

Other than the tripe, you'll be able to use pretty much everything
you got. I would definitely recommend getting chicken quarters to up
the meat content of the meals.

As far as how much food, if the pup should be about 130lbs as an
adult, you'll be feeding around 3lbs a day (large dogs usually eat
closer to 2%) for now split that up into three meals of 1lb each.
Easy, right?

Andrea

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Jennifer" <kali_moonwolf@...>
wrote:

> I don't think I did the calculation right... if he will be
> around 130lbs when grown, then I take 3% of his expected body
> weight, and divide that into 3 meals per day (whew, my head is
> spinning

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14a. Re: Bad Doggy farts - Re: Killer Tooters
Posted by: "Shirley" ssthunderpony@yahoo.com ssthunderpony
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:32 am ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "kaebruney" <kaebruney@...> wrote:
>
> Hey everyone,
>
> Sorry to be graphic, but there is no other way to put it.
>
> My 2/3yr old AmBull has KILLER doggy toots.. I mean awful!
He's been
> on raw for about 2.5 mos now (fostered him for a rescue and
decided to
> keep him) and is doing great! His teeth are cleaned, his doggy
funk is
> gone and he has the sweetest cleanest breath for a big ol lump!
*lol*
>

############ Have Faith ! Any dog I switched to raw went through
this phase at first.

Starting with chicken as recommended for a few weeks then slowly
, like every other week adding a different protein causes growth
of different dogestive enzymes.

All my dogs did this for anywhere from 2 months to about 4 months
maybe more
into the program. Once they get past 'Killer Tooters' it never
recurred .

This is their dogestive system learning to kick into high where it
should be after being so terribly subdued by killer kibble.

Never give the dog anything like pepcid ,etc. You just make things
worse AFA digestive enzymes go and many of these anti acid products
can be dangerous for you dog.

AFA that goes anything that is ANTI-something
is bad for a naturally healthy and thriving life-force.

HTH,
Shirley
imagegermanshepherds.com
est 1959

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15. Intro to Fran and Nugget
Posted by: "Fran" frankersey@verizon.net fran_aimin
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:35 am ((PDT))

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Hello everyone,

I just registered and I wanted to introduce my pup and myself to the
group.

I just got Nugget in August. He is a Shar pei, going on 10 months old
now. He was a rescue and was near death from neglect when I brought
him home. He was totally flea bitten, had yeasty ears, both eyes
infected, one cherry eye, hugely swollen infected legs and very little
hair because he had a bacterial skin infection.

I am happy to say he is coming along really well in most areas but the
skin issues are an ongoing problem. While the hair on his body is now
quite nice, he still has issues with his legs and feet.

We are currently concentrating on getting his eyes operated on as his
vision is a problem. We have quite a few raw feeders on a shar pei
forum I belong to and I would like to learn more about it.

I know he has allergies and it would be great if that problem could be
resolved via diet rather than a shot or a pill.

Theres alot to read here so I imagine I wont be posting much for awhile.

Just wanted to say hello, its good to be here/

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