[rawfeeding] Digest Number 12162

There are 12 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Bad Doggy farts - what can you do?? (sorry to be graphic)
From: kaebruney
1b. Re: Bad Doggy farts - what can you do?? (sorry to be graphic)
From: T Smith
1c. Re: Bad Doggy farts - what can you do?? (sorry to be graphic)
From: Stephanie Sorensen

2a. Re: Helping a nursing bitch: Is feeding raw with kibble a good idea?
From: kaebruney

3a. Re: Poo
From: jennifer_hell

4a. Re: Still a Newbie to this
From: kaebruney

5a. using goat meat
From: Misty G
5b. Re: using goat meat
From: bluegracepwd
5c. Re: using goat meat
From: Morledzep@aol.com

6. Lamb flaps
From: doreenchui

7a. Re: Hives, Dogs get hives?(OT, about hives)
From: Michelle Pape

8a. Re: New dog, feeding question
From: cesar valdez

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1a. Bad Doggy farts - what can you do?? (sorry to be graphic)
Posted by: "kaebruney" kaebruney@yahoo.com kaebruney
Date: Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:52 pm ((PDT))

Hey everyone,

Sorry to be graphic, but there is no other way to put it.

My 2/3yr old AmBull has KILLER doggy toots.. I mean awful! He's been
on raw for about 2.5 mos now (fostered him for a rescue and decided to
keep him) and is doing great! His teeth are cleaned, his doggy funk is
gone and he has the sweetest cleanest breath for a big ol lump! *lol*

But those tooters are killer!If he lets one go in the other room, as
soon I as walk in I think someone had a diarrhea episode... it stinks
that bad!!I asked some other pet owners and they suggested adding
plain yogurt to his diet. Well two weeks later, he STILL does it.

What can I do? I though maybe the food was bad but my other dogs don't
have the same problem.

*sigh*

~Kae

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1b. Re: Bad Doggy farts - what can you do?? (sorry to be graphic)
Posted by: "T Smith" coldbeach@gmail.com lhasaspots
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:34 am ((PDT))

I used to give Pepsid to my Dalmatian & it worked but also when he did have
gas, it didn't 'stink us out of the room' when he was on it.
However, when switching to raw, I stopped giving it because he needed the
stomach acids & now his gas is returned....it WILL send you to the
neighbour's house: YES, it's that bad!
I await other's ideas!
Trina
--
Chip (deaf Dalmatian)
Casper (deaf Great Dane)
Whisper (deaf Great Dane)
Louie (hearing Great Dane)
Joey (deaf & blind Lhasa Apso)
Amy (disabled Lhasa Apso)
Cassandra (disabled Lhasa Apso)
Mr Paris (Lhasa Apso)
Chloe (deaf & blind Spaniel mix)

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1c. Re: Bad Doggy farts - what can you do?? (sorry to be graphic)
Posted by: "Stephanie Sorensen" steph.sorensen@yahoo.com steph.sorensen
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:01 am ((PDT))

I also am looking forward to any ideas on this. I call my girls' farts "bad chicken farts" because it smells just like they didn't eat it all and it is sitting somewhere in the house where I haven't discovered it yet!! It is absolutely HORRIBLE!!

And it makes my husband want to switch them back to kibble. He is looking for any excuse.

-Steph
Scarlet, Lucy, and Minkey (the kitty)

T Smith <coldbeach@gmail.com> wrote:
I used to give Pepsid to my Dalmatian & it worked but also when he did have
gas, it didn't 'stink us out of the room' when he was on it.
However, when switching to raw, I stopped giving it because he needed the
stomach acids & now his gas is returned....it WILL send you to the
neighbour's house: YES, it's that bad!
I await other's ideas!
Trina
--
Chip (deaf Dalmatian)
Casper (deaf Great Dane)
Whisper (deaf Great Dane)
Louie (hearing Great Dane)
Joey (deaf & blind Lhasa Apso)
Amy (disabled Lhasa Apso)
Cassandra (disabled Lhasa Apso)
Mr Paris (Lhasa Apso)
Chloe (deaf & blind Spaniel mix)

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2a. Re: Helping a nursing bitch: Is feeding raw with kibble a good idea?
Posted by: "kaebruney" kaebruney@yahoo.com kaebruney
Date: Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:53 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, Carol Dunster <cedunster@...> wrote:
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> She is in your care, just do it and don't say too much. :)
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> ~ Carol
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You are right on Carol!

I went with my gut, said to heck with their theories and went for it.
All I can say is "momma doggy knew best".

The vet said:
- she was at risk for calcium deficiency
- she should be fed a "good kibble" (he gave her ProPlan *aack!*) with
some ID to help
- she would not be able to nurse the pups past 4 weeks and to take
them from her then...

Yeah, well raw is changing that. The SAME dog has eaten nearly 5lbs of
whole chicken in the last two day and drank almost a 1/2 gallon of
water. I'm adding (not all in the same meal though) some liver for
iron, some yogurt or cottage cheese for calcium and some fish oil
supplements (gotta help those babies grow to be all shiny an smart!)

Not only is she loving every bits, her body is fluffing a bit. I can
sill count every rib and vertebrae on her, but it's obvious she is
filling up (if only to produce better milk).

I CAN'T wait to take her to their vet, 125lbs of various brands of
food in tow and explain that the reason her calcium has bounced back
is because she's eating raw.

I can't wait to see his response...

Kae

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3a. Re: Poo
Posted by: "jennifer_hell" jenniferhell@web.de jennifer_hell
Date: Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:53 pm ((PDT))

We're still in the chicken phase. She eats whole chicken with wings
and legs removed.

Jennifer with Mandy

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "carnesbill" <carnesw@...> wrote:

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> What exactly are you feeding???
>
> Bill Carnes
> http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm
>
> Feeding Raw since October 2002
>
> "Unnatural diets predispose animals to unnatural outcomes"
> Dr. Tom Lonsdale
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4a. Re: Still a Newbie to this
Posted by: "kaebruney" kaebruney@yahoo.com kaebruney
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:34 am ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "totaly_his" <totaly_his@...> wrote:
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> I have a few questions:

((( see below)))

> Thank you, Jackie

Hey Jackie... I used to have the same sort of concerns.

>1)Does frozen raw food have a "shelf life"?

- YEP... as long as it can sit on the shelf. *lol* Dogs aren't subject
to freezer burn or out of dates stamps.

2)When I feed my dog the raw food, do I wash it real well before giving

- Regarding store bought meat -only if you want to. But your dogs
probably like it better with all the slime and funk on it. And if you
ever let them outside with their meat, they are SURE to cover it in
dirt for some added flavor. Regarding wild game, I'm not sure.

3)When I begin feeding, do I buy organic meats or just buy what my
local supermarket carries?

- I buy store bought, but I read the labels to make sure there is no
broth or seasonings added. I don't like the idea of giving the added
sodium in the broth.

4) Without so many of you "veteran" rawfeeders out there to help us
newbies begin this, we would be up a creek.

- You got that right!! I'd been feeding raw for over a year and when I
got to this board I found out SO MANY better ways to go about it. The
crew here is WONDERFUL and everyone shares. Welcome to the family!

Here are a couple of links for more info:

www.rawfeddog.com
www.rawdogranch.com

... Just wait till you notice the benefits of raw feeding in your
dog(s). You will NEVER go back to kibble again. :0)

Kae

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5a. using goat meat
Posted by: "Misty G" oceanmistrabbitry@yahoo.com oceanmistrabbitry
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:34 am ((PDT))

I would like to know if I can use goat meat to raw feed our puppy? She's been on Canidae up until now...
also does anyone here know if there are regulations against selling animals as raw meat to others who may want to feed raw diets?

Thanks Misty

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5b. Re: using goat meat
Posted by: "bluegracepwd" janea@tpg.com.au bluegracepwd
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:37 am ((PDT))

Hi Misty,

I feed goat meat whenever I can get it. It's an excellent meat
source. At the moment I have a freezer half full of whole goat, and
half full of whole sheep. The dogs are loving it! (as are the
ferrets and the cats)

cheers

Jane
www.bluegrace.com

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, Misty G <oceanmistrabbitry@...>
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> I would like to know if I can use goat meat to raw feed our puppy?

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5c. Re: using goat meat
Posted by: "Morledzep@aol.com" Morledzep@aol.com morledzep
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:47 am ((PDT))

In a message dated 10/15/2007 12:35:10 AM Pacific Standard Time,
oceanmistrabbitry@yahoo.com writes:

I would like to know if I can use goat meat to raw feed our puppy? She's
been on Canidae up until now...

Misty,

Absolutely.. goat meat is one of the things my dogs love more than almost
anything. and most goat and lamb is all grassfed. no feedlot, low quality meat
there.

the thing i noticed when i buy goats is that they just aren't terribly meaty.
as far as $$ per # pork is less expensive and meatier..

Catherine R.

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6. Lamb flaps
Posted by: "doreenchui" doreenchui@yeos.com doreenchui
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:57 am ((PDT))

Is lamb flaps good as RMB?
Doreen

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7a. Re: Hives, Dogs get hives?(OT, about hives)
Posted by: "Michelle Pape" brunoheart@yahoo.com brunoheart
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:58 am ((PDT))

My Dane BRuno was covered in hives after a bug bite of
some sort. We think it may have been a spider, but
aren't sure. Vet had me give him Benedryl, but by
then the sweeling had already begun to improve.
Allergic reactions can apparently have lots of
different affects on different animals. Good luck
with your pug baby.
Michelle Pape
--- Virginia Snider <vsnider@cogeco.ca> wrote:

> Hi,
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> My Pug, (11 mos), was slipped a chicken wiener
> yesterday and today has mild
> hives. He had a much worse reaction about 2 weeks
> ago when given a
> pepperoni dog treat.
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> When I first got him he had been on the cheapest
> cardboard available, going
> 4 times a day. He's been doing pretty well for the
> last few months, with
> the exception of intro to organs, (and now I know
> firsthand the true meaning
> of cannon butt :-))
>
> I never knew dogs got hives. What gives? Is it
> some sort of grain problem?
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> TIA, you guys are a real help,
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>
>
> Virginia
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Michelle Pape
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8a. Re: New dog, feeding question
Posted by: "cesar valdez" chorizo4662@yahoo.com chorizo4662
Date: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:58 am ((PDT))

MODERATORS NOTE:SIGN YOUR MAILS!!!

I need info QUICK. Can ANYONE PLEASE tell me how long
a dog can go without eating. After feeding raw for
about 6mon now. Ive stopped chopping up the food for
my Pitbull and ive given him whole hearts and tongues
cut into 4-5 big chunks. He refuses to eat them that
way. I was once told not to worry, if he gets hungry
enough, he'll eat them. he wont "let himself starve".
Well, its been 7 whole days and nothing, he still acts
the same in EVERY way, continues to play with the
other 2 dogs like normal. Drinks water regularly and
again, acts the same. What ahould i do??? PLEASE help ASAP!!!

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