[rawfeeding] Digest Number 12115

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: pork neck bones?
From: heather pavelin

2.1. Re: raw feeding advice for a beginner
From: tottime47
2.2. Re: raw feeding advice for a beginner
From: tottime47
2.3. Re: raw feeding advice for a beginner
From: Gail Edmond
2.4. Re: raw feeding advice for a beginner
From: tottime47
2.5. Re: raw feeding advice for a beginner
From: katkellm

3a. Re: They have NO idea!
From: Giselle
3b. Re: They have NO idea!
From: ginny wilken
3c. Re: They have NO idea!
From: Denise Strother

4a. Re: feeding Pork
From: Andrea

5.1. Fasting
From: great_dane_devotee
5.2. Re: Fasting
From: tottime47
5.3. Re: Fasting
From: katkellm
5.4. Re: Fasting
From: great_dane_devotee

6a. Re: Diabetic Diet
From: Bumble1994@aol.com

7a. Plant Material {previously - Re: Adding on to Supplement Question}
From: aliciamyan

8a. Re: raw meat only
From: Laurie Swanson
8b. Re: raw meat only
From: skylinefay@aol.com
8c. Re: raw meat only
From: Elizabeth

9a. PLEASE HELP- how much to feed?
From: kwrestad
9b. Re: PLEASE HELP- how much to feed?
From: Sandee Lee

10a. Re: Salmon oil and other questions
From: lauraanimal1

11. group mail problems
From: lauraanimal1

12a. Re: Feeding Toy breeds
From: Denise Strother

13a. Re: Fairly new to raw feeding
From: Giselle

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1a. Re: pork neck bones?
Posted by: "heather pavelin" hpav061378@yahoo.com hpav061378
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 3:24 pm ((PDT))

Thanks my hubby will be happy to know they are for him now lol. I am glad I have this group to ask questions like this!! I am still trying to find a meat market in my area, I think I have found one 30 mins away but havent been able to get there yet. Thanks Again Heather

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2.1. Re: raw feeding advice for a beginner
Posted by: "tottime47" tottime@aol.com tottime47
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 3:25 pm ((PDT))

Hi Gail,

You don't, that's what the site is for, to help.

We've all been there, lol. I've only been feeding since Feb so I'm
pretty new too!

Beef is pretty fatty for their first meals.

What you want to do is get some chicken, best to get a whole chicken
if you can and cut it up yourself.

Offer them a piece bigger than their muzzle area, so they can't
swallow it whole. If they won't eat it, try some of the other
suggestions to make it more appealing to them.

How big are your dogs and how old are they?

I'm sure others will be chiming in here to help you too!
Just hang in there and welcome to the wild side, lol.........

Carol, Charkee & Moli

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, Gail Edmond <windybond1@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry to sound so ignorant on this but am i doing wrong got a bag
of bits from the butchers mostly beef with lots of fat so it looked
yuk to me so boiled slowly for a couple of hours to get rid of the
fat whats left was loads of good looking beef to me but still down on
the kitchen floor untouched.
>
> Trying to learn what is best. They are so skinny though and i
worry about my two babies.
>
> Gail

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2.2. Re: raw feeding advice for a beginner
Posted by: "tottime47" tottime@aol.com tottime47
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 3:36 pm ((PDT))

Hi Gail,

Don't worry about them eating, they will. Just remember it's new to
them. Try the chicken and see if they will eat that..

If your dogs are healthy, they can go several days without food and
it will not hurt them to do it.

You're not doing anything wrong, one of my dogs held out for 3 days
and finally started eating. Now he loves it!

Carol, Charkee & Moli

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, Gail Edmond <windybond1@...> wrote:
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> Thanks for the reply i am learning lots and lots just trying to do
the best for my two but feel as if they wont eat it i am doing
something wrong.
>
> Gail

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2.3. Re: raw feeding advice for a beginner
Posted by: "Gail Edmond" windybond1@yahoo.co.uk windybond1
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 3:52 pm ((PDT))

MODERATORS NOTE:SIGN & TRIM YOUR MAILS! THIS WAS TRIMMED FOR YOU!

They are two shih tzus very slim, they have eaten chicken breasts raw before but seem so fussy. Get the beef off cuts from the local butcher sometimes its better than we would eat.. I cant believe it when i have offered them steak left overs and they have turned there noses up. They have consumed the breast and bone of chicken and i think good everything is ok then the next meal they wont touch it, they have not eaten for three days now and am really worried.

----- Original Message ----
From: tottime47 <tottime@aol.com>
To: rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 3 October, 2007 11:22:06 PM
Subject: [rawfeeding] Re: raw feeding advice for a beginner

Hi Gail,

You don't, that's what the site is for, to help.

We've all been there, lol. I've only been feeding since Feb so I'm
pretty new too!

Beef is pretty fatty for their first meals.

What you want to do is get some chicken, best to get a whole chicken
if you can and cut it up yourself.

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2.4. Re: raw feeding advice for a beginner
Posted by: "tottime47" tottime@aol.com tottime47
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 4:31 pm ((PDT))

Hi Gail,

I know how you feel. Sometimes mine go off feed, like today,
honest.....

No breakfast wanted, nope again at lunch time and finally about 30
minutes ago, just a small hunk of beef each! They normally eat 3x
that much in a day!

I guess I've been feeding to much the last couple of days and they've
finally decided to do a self imposed fast? I don't know, but I do
know they won't starve......

Since it's both of your dogs, just keep offering at mealtime and
don't worry......they'll eat....

I have one that tries to play me too. He's older and should eat at
least a couple of times a day.......sometimes he doesn't, I used to
panic that he'd get sick, now I just wait 10 minutes, pick it up and
offer at the next meal. He eats a lot better than he used to but
still tries the "I want something better" every once in a
while........he's learning that it just isn't going to happen.

Just hang tough and don't let them see you're worried!

Carol, Charkee (Mr. Picky) & Moli

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, Gail Edmond <windybond1@...> wrote:
I cant believe it when i have offered them steak left overs and they
have turned there noses up. they have not eaten for three days now
and am really worried.

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2.5. Re: raw feeding advice for a beginner
Posted by: "katkellm" katkellm@yahoo.com katkellm
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 4:40 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, Gail Edmond <windybond1@...> wrote:
> They have consumed the breast and bone of chicken and i think good
everything is ok then the next meal they wont touch it, they have not
eaten for three days now and am really worried.

Hi Gail,
If they have eaten chicken breasts and all went well then i think we
can assume that they like chicken. I think that you are confusing the
dogs by offering cooked stuff and then raw stuff and then picking up
what they don't eat and offering them something else. I think that
maybe you should make a feeding plan and stick with it. Provided that
your dogs are healthy, i would make sure that you are not feeding them
more than 2% of their ideal body weight. I would put down the chicken
breast and give them 10ish minutes to decide if they want to eat and
if not pick it up and put it back in the fridge for later. This will
be the way hard part, but while they are sizing up the chicken and
what to do with it, please don't fuss over them or try to coax them to
eat or hover around. Stay in the room with them but act unconcerned
about what they choose to do. Dogs are very adept at reading us, so
don't fret over feeding time. When you take control of the feeding
schedule and not your dogs, i think they'll eat happily. KathyM

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3a. Re: They have NO idea!
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 3:37 pm ((PDT))

O. M. D.!!!

It would be Too Funny, if it weren't so distressing!

There are people out there who would actually buy a food marketed like
that.

The Michael Vick pic on the bag was, dunno - OTT, I guess.

Leave it to SNL to take an already bizarre pet food system and twist
it up with the news-of-the-day to make it even more insane.

btw, Ginny, I was Googling around and came across this site;
http://www1.freewebs.com/rawfoodsupply/articleonrawdiet.htm

Scrolling down, who do I see, but full color pics of you and Tomo
eating on a huge chunka raw!!

You're both famous!
(isn't that essentially the WDJ article from a couple months back?)

TC
Giselle

> Hahahaha, Ginny I have to agree, a diet change is in order!
>
> Carol, Charkee & Moli
>
> --- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, ginny wilken <gwilken@> wrote:
> >
> > Check this out, guys! It was passed on to me by the folks at
> > greentripe.com, but it speaks to every issue I hold dear: diet,
> > vaccines, BSL.
>
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FavisuIY8o
>
> > Unbelievable!
> >
> > ginny and Tomo
> >
> > All stunts performed without a net!
>

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3b. Re: They have NO idea!
Posted by: "ginny wilken" gwilken@alamedanet.net ginny439
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 5:47 pm ((PDT))

On Oct 3, 2007, at 3:34 PM, Giselle wrote:

>
> btw, Ginny, I was Googling around and came across this site;
> http://www1.freewebs.com/rawfoodsupply/articleonrawdiet.htm
>
> Scrolling down, who do I see, but full color pics of you and Tomo
> eating on a huge chunka raw!!
>
> You're both famous!
> (isn't that essentially the WDJ article from a couple months back?)
>
> TC
> Giselle
>

Good Googling, Giselle! Yep, that be us. I don't agree with
everything in the article either, but publicity is almost always
good:) BTW, the cow from which the beef leg came is famous, too -
it's Merril's legendary "stinky beef". This was a bull with full
adult hormones, who died in fear, and then wasn't butchered or a day
or so, during hot weather - all of which probably contributed to the
odor, which would stop a truck. Some of us were a bit shy about
feeding it, but there was lots of enthusiasm and no one got sick.

ginny and Tomo, outer limits feeders - Kids, don't try this at home!

All stunts performed without a net!

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3c. Re: They have NO idea!
Posted by: "Denise Strother" denisestrother@yahoo.com denisestrother
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 6:27 pm ((PDT))

> ginny and Tomo, outer limits feeders - Kids, don't try this at home!

****We do some outer limits feeding here too. I've fed mine some stuff
that I wouldn't let thaw in the house, much less feed it there. And I
would have to hold my breath to unwrap it and give it to them. If the
dogs are game, I say go for it. Nobody here has ever been sick from
it. And there has been once or twice that they called quits on a
really large long lasting hunk. And one time I just couldn't stand
anymore. But you know, even when I was tossing it, I wondered if they
didn't eat it because they weren't very hungry. I guess it's just my
nature to push those limits. (VBG) Denise

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4a. Re: feeding Pork
Posted by: "Andrea" poketmouse45@yahoo.com poketmouse45
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 3:48 pm ((PDT))

Not if you get commercial pork from the US. More often than not the pork you get from the
supermarket has been frozen once already, though. Wild boar you should freeze first,
though.

Andrea

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "skylinefay" <skylinefay@...> wrote:

> I had someone ask me if when feeding pork it should be frozen first?
> Is this true?

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5.1. Fasting
Posted by: "great_dane_devotee" libpowers@mac.com great_dane_devotee
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 4:05 pm ((PDT))

Okay, We've been doing fine on raw for about three weeks or more. Except I have tried twice
(now three times) to feed chicken. The first two times both of my girls refused for two days.
I caved in and gave kibble in the middle of the night because my Dane didn't seem to be able
to sleep. THe next time, I caved in and gave them pork when they refused the chicken. This
time I have held firm. The last time I fed anything other than this same chicken was Sunday
morning. I think I fed pork. (Which they think is the food of the gods!) Tuesday morning
one of my dogs ate the chicken. The other one hasn't eaten anything. She drinks, she
through up bile yesterday, she's clearly hungry, but she won't eat the chicken. Tomorrow will
be day 4 for her. I had determined to stay strong, should I still?

Once when she was a pup, she ate a chicken- live form my barn- I sciolded her strongly-
could she see the connection?

THanks for your help.

Libby

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5.2. Re: Fasting
Posted by: "tottime47" tottime@aol.com tottime47
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 4:46 pm ((PDT))

Hi Libby,

Is this the same chicken or different pieces? If from the same chicken,
there may be something the dogs are sensing in it that we can't see or
smell.

I bought some beef muscle meat from a great supplier a while back.
Thawed and served, neither dog would even go near their plate, they
both smelled at it from a distance!
Just to be sure, I thawed a different package out and sure enough they
ate it with relish.
I don't know what was wrong with that beef, but clearly something was.

On the other hand, some dogs just plain and simply do not like chicken.

Sorry, I'm digressing....if the dogs did ok with the pork, why not
change them over to that? If they had runny stool, maybe you could try
turkey for the starter meat?

Good luck and hope this helps some......

Carol, Charkee & Moli

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "great_dane_devotee" <libpowers@...>
wrote:
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> Okay, We've been doing fine on raw for about three weeks or more.
Except I have tried twice
> (now three times) to feed chicken. The other one hasn't eaten
anything. She drinks, she
> through up bile yesterday, she's clearly hungry, but she won't eat
the chicken. Tomorrow will
> be day 4 for her. I had determined to stay strong, should I still?

> THanks for your help.

> Libby

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5.3. Re: Fasting
Posted by: "katkellm" katkellm@yahoo.com katkellm
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 5:30 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "great_dane_devotee"
<libpowers@...> wrote:
Except I have tried twice
> (now three times) to feed chicken. ..... This
> time I have held firm. ... The other one hasn't eaten anything.

Hi Libby,
Did you try cutting the chicken open for her? Maybe put some Parmesan
cheese on it--sear it --you know, something to make it more appealing
to her so she'll at least try it. I don't know what everyone else
will say, but me personally, i would do my darnedest to get her to eat
some chicken through creative presentations and then feed what she
likes again for awhile. If the next time you offer chicken she
refuses, as long as she eats most everything else you offer, i just
wouldn't feed chicken again. I have one dog who hates goat. The
first time she refused it i smothered it in Parmesan cheese and a raw
egg, both of which she likes, and she ate the goat. The next time i
fed goat she ate a little of it, but you could tell she was none to
pleased with the entree. Since she eats everything else, i don't see
it as a big deal, and i just don't feed her goat anymore. KathyM

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5.4. Re: Fasting
Posted by: "great_dane_devotee" libpowers@mac.com great_dane_devotee
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 8:13 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "katkellm" <katkellm@...> wrote:
>I have one dog who hates goat. The
> first time she refused it i smothered it in Parmesan cheese and a raw
> egg, both of which she likes, and she ate the goat.

Thanks, with the egg addition, the one dog who ate the chicken a couple of days ago ate it
again, so that's at least progress. However, the Dane, takes the chicken out of the dish,
moves it to the floor and licks up all the egg.

I'll keep trying.

Libby

> --- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "great_dane_devotee"
> <libpowers@> wrote:
> Except I have tried twice
> > (now three times) to feed chicken. ..... This
> > time I have held firm. ... The other one hasn't eaten anything.
>
>

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6a. Re: Diabetic Diet
Posted by: "Bumble1994@aol.com" Bumble1994@aol.com bumble1994
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 4:30 pm ((PDT))

This is a great website regarding diabetic cats, and I have full faith that
it is equally true of diabetic dogs:

_http://yourdiabeticcat.com/protocol.html_

(http://yourdiabeticcat.com/protocol.html)

Dr. Hodgkins testified before the Senate committee that held the pet food
hearings after the recalls this spring and is a recognized authority of diabetic
cats. She recommends raw food.

Lynda


In a message dated 10/3/2007 9:42:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
"DJagodzinski21@aol.com" writes:

My 9 year old Rottie/Lab was diagnosed tonight with being a diabetic. The
vet wants to put him on a prescription diet. I don't want to do that. Can he

be on a raw diet? What can he eat?

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7a. Plant Material {previously - Re: Adding on to Supplement Question}
Posted by: "aliciamyan" alicia_larson@msn.com aliciamyan
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 5:29 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Giselle" <megan.giselle@...> wrote:
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> I vote for the sock.
>
> I have no time for closed minds or people trying to sell me a bill of
> goods to make a buck.
>
> And I've never felt any need to justify what I feed to my dogs, or
why!
>

Amen. I'm sure I will have plenty of "conversations" that will help
thicken my skin as I go through this learning process. I'll keep a
sock in my purse...clean of course, because I'll probably need to put
it in my mouth most. I returned the CLO without incident.

Thanks for all the great input - love reading your posts.

Alicia

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8a. Re: raw meat only
Posted by: "Laurie Swanson" laurie@mckinneyphoto.com las_lala
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 5:29 pm ((PDT))

I agree--as I've posted before, my dog's chronic yeasty ears cleared up
when I got rid of the veggies and went to prey model.

Laurie

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Denise Strother"
<denisestrother@...> wrote:
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> I disagree with your premise. I have seen dogs with chronic ear
> infections on a BARF diet, that when switched to raw prey model,
> disappeared.(The infection, not the dog)

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8b. Re: raw meat only
Posted by: "skylinefay@aol.com" skylinefay@aol.com skylinefay
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 5:57 pm ((PDT))

In a message dated 10/3/2007 8:30:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
laurie@mckinneyphoto.com writes:

I agree--as I've posted before, my dog's chronic yeasty ears cleared up
when I got rid of the veggies and went to prey model.

Laurie

So, do you think that veggies cause more allergies in dogs? I have so many
people that start raw want to add veggies because they feel it's good for
their dogs and I would love to give a reason why this is not a good thing!
Other than dogs being carnivores and not omnivores I would love to give more of a
reason.
Thanks!
Toni

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8c. Re: raw meat only
Posted by: "Elizabeth" rainsou1@yahoo.com rainsou1
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 6:28 pm ((PDT))

Like many new and oblivious raw feeders I started out with a BARF type
diet as this was the first thing I stumbled across on the net. When I
decided to cut out the veggies one day my dog quit the itching. Now
she only gets veggies or fruit as an occasional treat, which is very
rarely. She has done much, much better on the prey-model diet.

-Liz

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9a. PLEASE HELP- how much to feed?
Posted by: "kwrestad" kwrestad@yahoo.com kwrestad
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 5:58 pm ((PDT))

MODERATORS NOTE:SIGN YOUR MAILS!

I have two dogs (info below). My golden has been on a raw diet since
we got him. The lab is a rescue and has been raw for the past two
months. I want to make sure they are being fed enough. They are
exercised often (jog 10-20 miles/week, walks, fetch, etc).

Golden Retriever
2 years old
55 pounds (small breed- parents weighed 60 & 65)
High energy dog

Black Lab
1 year old (estimate- rescue dog)
55 pounds
Medium energy

Their diet consists of the following (rotated at random; 1 of these
at a time): How many should they be fed per meal?

1) turkey necks
2) chicken drumsticks
3) chicken thighs
occasionally whole chickens, chicken backs

THANK YOU!

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9b. Re: PLEASE HELP- how much to feed?
Posted by: "Sandee Lee" rlee@plix.com mariasmom2001
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 6:38 pm ((PDT))

Not knowing what each of these items weight, there is no way for anyone to
tell you how many to feed. You want to give them 2-3% of their healthy
adult weight per day and see how they look. If they are getting a lot of
exercise, they may require more.

You definitely need to move on to some other proteins and feed more
meat...lots and lots of red meat! And organs are absolutely necessary.

Sandee & the Dane Gang

From: "kwrestad" <kwrestad@yahoo.com>

I have two dogs (info below). My golden has been on a raw diet since
we got him. The lab is a rescue and has been raw for the past two
months. I want to make sure they are being fed enough. They are
exercised often (jog 10-20 miles/week, walks, fetch, etc).

Their diet consists of the following (rotated at random; 1 of these
at a time): How many should they be fed per meal?

1) turkey necks
2) chicken drumsticks
3) chicken thighs
occasionally whole chickens, chicken backs

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10a. Re: Salmon oil and other questions
Posted by: "lauraanimal1" lauraanimal1@yahoo.com lauraanimal1
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 6:28 pm ((PDT))

BTW, where do you live that you are lucky enough to get
> such great foodstuffs? I'm jealous

I live in Laramie Wyoming, It is a small college town, There Is one
meat processor that I found in this town and one butcher. They both are
great!!!! The wild game processor lets me come everyday, I gave him one
of those 33 gallon trash cans for there "trash" and asked that whe it
was full please set it outside and I will dig threw it and get what I
want. I only pick up on Mon. Wed. Thurs and Sat. I get about a 50 lb
haul each time and thats still leaving over half behind and not
counting the meaty carcasses and leg bones with lots of meat and
tendens left on them as well as the heads. IF I had enough freezers I
could probably come close to getting enough to last the year.

The butcher here butchers everyday and when he gets in he lets me go
threw his gut barrels and take what ever I want, If I could afford it,
I could have several hides tanned out to and sell them. But he normaly
just butchers beef, lamb, pigs, very little goat and on some strange
occasions other animals.

I lucked out big time here and I actualy owe the butcher to someone on
here that mentioned them to me a few months back.

So If you live near buy, with in a couple hours to 4 hours and are
willing to get nice and yucky, you too can have some of this wonderful
take.

Laura & Ishta

Today was one of my days to come pick up and it is only a few blocks
from the libray, I had to come let you know where to go if anyone lived
near by. I just got over 50lbs and didnt even take 1/2 of it. Also most
of it is small scraps cut off from all over, but there are some 1-6lb
chunks as well in there, and sometimes hunters just want the backstrap,
so they toss the whole shoulders and legs. You also have to be careful
because some of the big hunks have bullet holes and shatters the bone,
but if your willing to cut around it , it's fine.

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11. group mail problems
Posted by: "lauraanimal1" lauraanimal1@yahoo.com lauraanimal1
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 6:28 pm ((PDT))

I have noticed that I dont always get all the posts that are posted in
the group mailings, and sometimes it will send the same exact one it
sent 2-4 hours before and skip a whole slew of posts and then send one
that is up todate, but never sends the one inbetween. Just thought I
would let the powers that be know.

Thanks
Laura and Ishta

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12a. Re: Feeding Toy breeds
Posted by: "Denise Strother" denisestrother@yahoo.com denisestrother
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 6:29 pm ((PDT))

.... a whole chicken neck as part of their diet would be appropriate.
This would be in conjunction with meaty meals, I wouldn't expect that
to provide the meat in their meals.

Carol,
I have 5lbers who sometimes eat necks, but whole chickens are even
more beneficial and easily doable for your dogs. I'm a lazy feeder, I
often put down a whole chicken or butterfly it. I let one dog eat it's
share, then the next and so on. When everyone is through, I put it in
the fridge and we do it again the next day. The same routine with pork
shoulder roasts or any other big chunk. Denise

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13a. Re: Fairly new to raw feeding
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Wed Oct 3, 2007 8:15 pm ((PDT))

Hi, Patrick and Lorene!
(hope thats right, and the dogs are Angel and Ray!)

Welcome to the raw side! ^_^

What exactly are you feeding now? How much and when? Inquiring minds
want to know!

These recommendations will get you on the right path;
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding/message/141374

post # 141374

And these websites are also very useful;
http://www.rawlearning.com/rawfaq.html

http://www.rawfed.com/myths/index.html

http://rawfeddogs.net/Recipes

TC and keep us posted on your progress!
Giselle
with Bea in New Jersey

> Hello, we are new to the raw feeding and we were hoping for some
> suggestions on what to feed, how much and maybe some recipes. We have
> 2 dogs, Lab/Greyhound mix and a retired racing Greyhound. Lab is
> approx. 85 lbs and the Greyhound is approx. 70 lbs.
>
> Thank you,
> Patrick, Lorene, Angel & Ray

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