[rawfeeding] Digest Number 12039

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Topics in this digest:

1a. cairn puppy won't eat raw
From: one_sojourner_one
1b. Re: cairn puppy won't eat raw
From: Howard Salob
1c. Re: cairn puppy won't eat raw
From: costrowski75
1d. Re: cairn puppy won't eat raw
From: Sandee Lee
1e. Re: cairn puppy won't eat raw
From: Dave Brown
1f. Re: cairn puppy won't eat raw
From: Dave Brown

2a. Re: Ostrich Egg
From: merril Woolf

3a. is all Tripe the same?
From: Marcella Burgess
3b. Re: is all Tripe the same?
From: Sandee Lee
3c. Re: is all Tripe the same?
From: Marcella Burgess
3d. Re: is all Tripe the same?
From: Sandee Lee

4a. Re: Worried about a possible blockage?
From: rosielefty
4b. Re: Worried about a possible blockage?
From: rosielefty
4c. Re: Worried about a possible blockage?
From: Yasuko herron
4d. Re: Worried about a possible blockage?
From: Yasuko herron
4e. Re: Worried about a possible blockage?
From: Sandee Lee

5a. Re: anal sacs?
From: K Carolyn Ramamurti
5b. Re: anal sacs?
From: Yasuko herron

6. regurgitating
From: Vickie

7. Not Digesting Bone
From: Roxane

8a. Re: raw vs. cooked / other newbie questions
From: darkstardog

9a. Vomit greyish brownish liquid with bone chunk and meat and mucusy po
From: Yasuko herron
9b. Re: Vomit greyish brownish liquid with bone chunk and meat and mucus
From: Casey Post
9c. Re: Vomit greyish brownish liquid with bone chunk and meat and mucus
From: Belinda van de Loo

10a. Re: "Treats?"
From: eyed_blue

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1a. cairn puppy won't eat raw
Posted by: "one_sojourner_one" onesojourner@gmail.com one_sojourner_one
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:43 am ((PDT))

I think we have the pickiest dog ever and that's part of the reason we wanted to try a raw diet. Our cairn is just over 4 months old. We have been trying to feed him canidae and it has been hit and miss. Tonight I thawed him a small chicken breast to see if he would eat it. First he sat there and licked at it in the bowl. He then picked it up and ran into the yard with it for some more licking. I ripped a small bite size piece off for him but he just dropped it. Finally he took the meat to a corner and buried it. He has done the same thing with a small cooked piece of steak. I have read about sprinkling with garlic but thats just going to make him lick it some more. any thoughts?

-peter

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1b. Re: cairn puppy won't eat raw
Posted by: "Howard Salob" itiskismet1968@yahoo.com itiskismet1968
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:01 am ((PDT))

Dear one sojourner one,

try giving green tripe.

sincerely,

Howard

one_sojourner_one <onesojourner@gmail.com> wrote:
I think we have the pickiest dog ever and that's part of the reason we wanted to try a raw diet. Our cairn is just over 4 months old. We have been trying to feed him canidae and it has been hit and miss. Tonight I thawed him a small chicken breast to see if he would eat it. First he sat there and licked at it in the bowl. He then picked it up and ran into the yard with it for some more licking. I ripped a small bite size piece off for him but he just dropped it. Finally he took the meat to a corner and buried it. He has done the same thing with a small cooked piece of steak. I have read about sprinkling with garlic but thats just going to make him lick it some more. any thoughts?

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1c. Re: cairn puppy won't eat raw
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:51 am ((PDT))

Howard Salob <itiskismet1968@...> wrote:
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> try giving green tripe.
*****
How will that help?
Chris O

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1d. Re: cairn puppy won't eat raw
Posted by: "Sandee Lee" rlee@plix.com mariasmom2001
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:43 am ((PDT))

Peter,

Try warming it up, slice into it in a few spots and smash some Parmesan
cheese down into the slices! You might have to try it a couple of times but
should work.

Sandee & the Dane Gang

From: "one_sojourner_one" <onesojourner@gmail.com>

I think we have the pickiest dog ever and that's part of the reason we
wanted to try a raw diet. Our cairn is just over 4 months old. We have been
trying to feed him canidae and it has been hit and miss. Tonight I thawed
him a small chicken breast to see if he would eat it. First he sat there and
licked at it in the bowl. He then picked it up and ran into the yard with it
for some more licking. I ripped a small bite size piece off for him but he
just dropped it. Finally he took the meat to a corner and buried it. He has
done the same thing with a small cooked piece of steak. I have read about
sprinkling with garlic but thats just going to make him lick it some more.
any thoughts?

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1e. Re: cairn puppy won't eat raw
Posted by: "Dave Brown" quahog@netnet.net quahogwi
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:55 am ((PDT))

You may want to try a little hamburger for starters. Just because
it's chicken and it's raw doesn't mean that they're going to like
it. Alternatively, you may want to try dicing some of the raw
chicken so that the pieces are too small to be buried and they may
stick to his tongue. Leave it down for about 15 minutes and then
pick up the bowl and put it away. Bring it out at the next
feeding. No snacks or treats in between. Also, it may be that you
Cairn doesn't like the coldness. Maybe try warming it a bit to
nearer room temp.

I'm no expert, but this is what I'd do.

David G. Brown
Green Bay, WI

At 08:23 AM 9/15/2007, you wrote:
>I think we have the pickiest dog ever and that's part of the reason
>we wanted to try a raw diet. Our cairn is just over 4 months old. We
>have been trying to feed him canidae and it has been hit and miss.
>Tonight I thawed him a small chicken breast to see if he would eat
>it. First he sat there and licked at it in the bowl. He then picked
>it up and ran into the yard with it for some more licking. I ripped
>a small bite size piece off for him but he just dropped it. Finally
>he took the meat to a corner and buried it. He has done the same
>thing with a small cooked piece of steak. I have read about
>sprinkling with garlic but thats just going to make him lick it some
>more. any thoughts?
>.
>-peter

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1f. Re: cairn puppy won't eat raw
Posted by: "Dave Brown" quahog@netnet.net quahogwi
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:56 am ((PDT))

Green tripe (i.e. unbleached, lightly washed) is the filet mignon of
organ meats. You can even get freeze dried green tripe. I think of
it as THE special treat for the hard to train or for the jackpot
treat after a particularly busy training session. One taste of tripe
and it is the rare, and I do mean RARE, dog who will spit it out.

David G. Brown
Green Bay, WI

At 10:51 AM 9/15/2007, you wrote:

>Howard Salob <itiskismet1968@...> wrote:
> >
> > try giving green tripe.
>*****
>How will that help?
>Chris O

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2a. Re: Ostrich Egg
Posted by: "merril Woolf" merril@kentfieldwhippets.com whippetsrus2002
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:06 am ((PDT))

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> Anyway, you got a good deal and hope your guys enjoy it. I often feed un-hatched
ostrich
> eggs and they are definitely on the weird list of feeding items. The hatched version would
> be so much nicer to try though.
>
> Merril
>

OK, in case you were wondering, that would be UN-laid ostrich eggs, not un-hatched.

Sheesh,

Merril

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3a. is all Tripe the same?
Posted by: "Marcella Burgess" proudfootkennels@sympatico.ca marciongrass
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:04 am ((PDT))

We recently purchased some tripe from the local abbatoir, but when I mentioned to him about Green Tripe... he looked at me as though I was off my rocker!
The tripe that my husband brought home is not Green in color and I am wondering if this is still the same thing or are there different sorts of tripe?

Marcella

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3b. Re: is all Tripe the same?
Posted by: "Sandee Lee" rlee@plix.com mariasmom2001
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:46 am ((PDT))

Green tripe refers to unprocessed, uncleaned tripe. It could be green,
black, etc....usually there are bits of green stomach contents adhering to
it. For some nice pictures, visit Kevin's recipes. That tripe was fresh
out of the cow...still warm...Yumm....

http://www.RawFedDogs.net/

Sandee & the Dane Gang

From: "Marcella Burgess" <proudfootkennels@sympatico.ca>

> We recently purchased some tripe from the local abbatoir, but when I
mentioned to him about Green Tripe... he looked at me as though I was off my
rocker!
> The tripe that my husband brought home is not Green in color and I am
wondering if this is still the same thing or are there different sorts of
tripe?

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3c. Re: is all Tripe the same?
Posted by: "Marcella Burgess" proudfootkennels@sympatico.ca marciongrass
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:55 am ((PDT))

yup.. that's exactly what my husband picked up... he brought it into the house and my girls (dogs) were all over him instantly.
as for the color.... welll... it's definately what you described....
so then my next question would be.. is that given the same way that any other meat is given or should I be more restrictive and give less?

Marcella

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3d. Re: is all Tripe the same?
Posted by: "Sandee Lee" rlee@plix.com mariasmom2001
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:29 am ((PDT))

That depends on your dogs. I feed entire meals of tripe but my dogs have
been eating raw for many years and if they do end up with soft stools, I'm
not alarmed! If your dogs are new to raw you might want to begin with a
small portion, just like you would introduce any new meat.

Have fun! :)) I love watching my dogs eat tripe...that's the one thing
they pick up and shake like they are going in for the kill! I learned early
on to stand up quickly after I hand it out!

Sandee & the Dane Gang

From: "Marcella Burgess" <proudfootkennels@sympatico.ca>

> yup.. that's exactly what my husband picked up... he brought it into the
house and my girls (dogs) were all over him instantly.
> as for the color.... welll... it's definately what you described....
> so then my next question would be.. is that given the same way that any
other meat is given or should I be more restrictive and give less?

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4a. Re: Worried about a possible blockage?
Posted by: "rosielefty" rosielefty@yahoo.com rosielefty
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:55 am ((PDT))

*** Mod Note: please trim your posts! ***

My 9 yr old 60lb heeler Lefty has the issues. I feed alot of chicken
but I make sure to feed some boneless cuts several days a week. They
are usually turkey or beef. Lefy has since had a normal poop and
seems brighter. I was concerned because he swallowed three small rib
bones whole. Thanks again, Beth
--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Sandee Lee" <rlee@...> wrote:
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> What exactly are you feeding and which dog has the problem?
>
> Sandee & the Dane Gang
>
> From: "rosielefty" <rosielefty@...>
> I am new to the site. I read a lot of your messages and read
about
> raw feeding on the internet. I also bought "Raw Dog Food Make It
Easy
> For You and Your Dog" by Carina Beth MacDonal. So I don't know
enough
> yet I am sure. Anyway, I have two Cattle dogs. One is 9 yrs and
one is
> 5 yrs. I have been raw feeding for about four weeks and it has
been
> rocky. First she didn't want to eat and now possible constipation
with
> the 5 yr old. The 9 yr old has allergies to everything and he is
the
> reason I began raw feeding. He likes the meat but has had loose
> stools, gas, burping and now very loose stools with very small
firmer
> peices at the end. I did a really stupid thing. I wasn't sure
which
> bones were okay and I fed some beef ribs with 1 inch bones. He ate
> about three of the bones and now I am very afraid one may be
stuck. He
> eats some but not enthusiastically. He vomited two nights ago but
not
> since. Does anyone have any input? Thanks in advance, Beth
>

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4b. Re: Worried about a possible blockage?
Posted by: "rosielefty" rosielefty@yahoo.com rosielefty
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:04 am ((PDT))

Hi Lynne,
Lefty is my 9yr old 60lb heeler. He has since had a normal bowel
movement and seems brighter. He swallowed 3 small rib bones whole so
I was concerned. He is fairly big but can't small bones still get
stuck if not chewed? What kinds of RMB's do you most recommend? I
feed alot of chicken of course and some boneless cuts like ground
turkey and beef cuts without bones. What beef can I feed with bones?
Thanks for your help this can be a little scarey at
first. Beth
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> --- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "rosielefty" <rosielefty@> wrote:
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> > Hi Everyone,
> > I am new to the site. First she didn't want to eat and now
> possible constipation with the 5 yr old.
>
> ***
> Hi, Beth,
>
> Possibly too much bone in this one's diet. Much like the rest of
us,
> some need more 'thickening' than others!
>
> The 9 yr old has allergies to everything and he is the reason I
began
> raw feeding. He likes the meat but has had loose stools, gas,
burping
> and now very loose stools with very small firmer peices at the end.
> ****
> Sounds like this one's system might benefit from more bone.
Remember,
> increased bone produces increased stool firmness. Still, like us,
> expect varied stools, depending on what is consumed.
>
>
> I did a really stupid thing. I wasn't sure which bones were okay
and
> I fed some beef ribs with 1 inch bones. He ate about three of the
> bones and now I am very afraid one may be stuck. He eats some but
not
> enthusiastically. He vomited two nights ago but not since. Does
> anyone have any input?
>
> ***
> Need more info, please. What size dog is the 9-year old? Larger
dogs
> are able to handle larger bones. Ribs are not 'weight-bearing,' so
> may fall in the realm of edible bones for your dog, depending on
his
> size. Vomiting and lack of appetite may not be 'bad things,'
> necessarily, coupled with other behaviors. How much is your 9-yr.
old
> eating, since he last consumed the ribs? And what is his allergy
> history?
>
> If the lack of appetite lasts more than 4 or 5 days, it might be
> worthwile to go to the vet. Stlll, it would help if you gave more
> info.
>
> Thanks,
> Lynne
>

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4c. Re: Worried about a possible blockage?
Posted by: "Yasuko herron" sunshine_annamaria@yahoo.com sunshine_annamaria
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:12 am ((PDT))

>My 9 yr old 60lb heeler Lefty has the issues. I feed alot of chicken

Hi. How do you feed chicken? if you feed parts by parts such as you feed couple of wings in meal etc,then,it is like tempting your dog to swallow whole.

Are you feeding cutted portion from whole chicken?

As for chicken or Turkey,feeding that way would be better,That would reduce the risk of swallowing too big piece in one swallow.

My dog once did mis-judged the size of bone she chould swallow after some crunch and,she hoaked the bone up,and re-ate it with more crunching. Sometimes,dog can take care by themselves,but feeding bigger is better than inviting incident by feeding small.

> They are usually turkey or beef. Lefy has since had a normal poop and
>seems brighter.

poo color changes depending on what you gave to them. If you gave carrot and cucamber for example (although we do not feed veggie),you would have orange and green colored mixed poo,I am guessing.

My dog tends to have yellowish brown poo from poultry,but Beef gives mahagoney colored poo. After Heart meal,it gets bit darker softer poo. Poo color can relate to waht you feed.

> I was concerned because he swallowed three small rib bones whole.

Are you talking about Beef ribs? Poultry breast area with rib bones?

My suggestion is that,feed bigger,and know that the poo changes its color and firmness depending on what you feed to dog,and they are not human so,they do not chew like us and couple of crunching and swallolw ifthey think they can swallow.

I would not worry now if yourdog seems happy active as usual but try feed bigger.

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4d. Re: Worried about a possible blockage?
Posted by: "Yasuko herron" sunshine_annamaria@yahoo.com sunshine_annamaria
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:23 am ((PDT))

> What kinds of RMB's do you most recommend?

This is just me but..

<Turkey>
Whole

<chicken>
Whole
feet (treat)

<Beef>
Short Ribs (it is much meatier than back ribs,and my dog eat all bone;corgi)
Neck with added boneless meat

Heart
Tongue
Boneless Beef meat
Cheek meat

yassy

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4e. Re: Worried about a possible blockage?
Posted by: "Sandee Lee" rlee@plix.com mariasmom2001
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:56 am ((PDT))

Beth,

Dogs don't need to chew. If it fits down the throat, it is fair game. Beef
bones are hard and most are not edible. Just feed beef meaty meals and get
your bone content (which is only about 10% of the overall diet) from
chicken, turkey, pork, goat, lamb, fish, etc.

Sandee & the Dane Gang

From: "rosielefty" <rosielefty@yahoo.com>

Lefty is my 9yr old 60lb heeler. He has since had a normal bowel
movement and seems brighter. He swallowed 3 small rib bones whole so
I was concerned. He is fairly big but can't small bones still get
stuck if not chewed? What kinds of RMB's do you most recommend? I
feed alot of chicken of course and some boneless cuts like ground
turkey and beef cuts without bones. What beef can I feed with bones?

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5a. Re: anal sacs?
Posted by: "K Carolyn Ramamurti" lilith23360@yahoo.com lilith23360
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:04 am ((PDT))

My family has kept dachsunds all my life, and my understanding is that calcifications in the anal sacs, requiring expression, is specific to the breed. All my previous dachsunds have had to have this procedure done, from time to timie. I have two mini doxies I'm raw-feeding now, and one went to the vet to have her anal sacs expressed yesterday.

Raw feeding is best and resolves many health issues, but not all of them!

Carolyn Ramamurti in Seattle

Laurie Swanson <laurie@mckinneyphoto.com> wrote:
My dog used to scoot his butt on the carpet every so often and had his
anal sacs expressed once by the vet. The problem wasn't bad enough for
me to worry about treating it too much and I really didn't like the
idea of having them expressed, but I noticed it went away after I
removed the veggies from his diet. I used to feed ground raw meat and
pureed veggies. Since going to prey model and getting rid of veggies
about a year ago, the scooting stopped.

Laurie

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> Does anyone's raw fed dog have these problems?
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5b. Re: anal sacs?
Posted by: "Yasuko herron" sunshine_annamaria@yahoo.com sunshine_annamaria
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:25 am ((PDT))

> I have two mini doxies I'm raw-feeding now, and one went to the vet to have her anal sacs >expressed yesterday

Hi. I thought that since dog gets firmer poo with rawfeeding unlike kibble poo which is mushy,dog rarely have anal sac expression needed at vet or groomers.

I do not remeber where I read it but I remember I read it.

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6. regurgitating
Posted by: "Vickie" dals4creekside@comcast.net vivkie
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:19 pm ((PDT))

Does anyone have a problem with their dog occasionally regurgitating
meals? My one dog will go along just fine, but about once a week and a
half will regurgitate a meal. Usually its lamb. She doesn't seem to
have a problem when I give lamb without any bone, but when there is
bone with the lamb she seems to puke it up. She has no problem with
chicken, or pork. Also I fed some lamb kidney today and both dogs left
that laying and wouldn't touch it. Any idea on this?
Thanks
Vickie

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7. Not Digesting Bone
Posted by: "Roxane" roxanegraham@yahoo.com roxanegraham
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:13 pm ((PDT))

I have a pug with irritable bowel syndrome that I have just started to
raw feed. He chews off the biggest pieces possible and swallows them. I
have been feeding chicken leg quarters. He has chewed off a couple of
good size chunks of bone and swallowed them, he just literaly pooped
out a bone so he is not digesting the bone. So this worrys me. Any
thoughts about this? Thanks Roxane

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8a. Re: raw vs. cooked / other newbie questions
Posted by: "darkstardog" darkstardog@charter.net darkstardog
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:20 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "spricketysprock" <jess.hamway@...>
wrote:
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> It's evident enough why dogs would eat only meat, but I'm wondering
> what the benefits are for raw vs. cooked. Is it just for the edible
> bones or are there "enzymes" I've heard of that are so beneficial?
If so, what are they exactly?!
>
>

I would not give much weight to claims for benefits from the enzymes
in raw meat. I have never seen any actual evidence that they gave
health benefits.

Enzymes are a specific types of protein molecules which are able to
assist in making specific chemical reactions happen in the body. There
are thousands of types of enzymes because they are so specific in
their actions. The cells of the body make enzymes from amino acids (as
they do all proteins), using instructions from the DNA. The production
and destruction of enzymes is controlled in each cell depending on
what reactions the cell needs to have going on at any time. Because
cells make the enzymes they need, we don't need to get enzymes in the
diet. Most enzymes act inside the cells where they are made. Digestive
enzymes for digesting food are secreted into the gut.

Because enzymes are protein, the enzymes contained in raw food are
attacked by the protein-digesting enzymes in the stomach and intestine
just as other proteins are, and they can be denatured (lose their
shape and made inactive) by the acid in the stomach. They are too
large to normally be absorbed intact from the gut. They would be
broken down into single amino acids just like the other protein
molecules and absorbed into the body that way. So there is no reason
we need intact functioning enzymes from the meat in the diet. Enzymes
in the cell are made and transported to the correct site within the
cell, so it wouldn't do any good to supply them in the diet because
they wouldn't go where they needed to go inside the cells.

Because proteins do need to be broken down inside the cell after they
have served their purpose, there are protein-digesting enzymes (etc.)
inside the cells in addition to those secreted into the gut. So it is
possible that when a dog eats a piece of meat, some of those enzymes
in the meat cells start to digest that meat in addition to the
digestion that happens from the dog's digestive enzymes. This is what
happens when meat is aged to make it more tender. So there may be some
contribution from the enzymes in raw meat to digestion of that meat.
But the dog's body naturally makes protein-digesting enzymes to digest
its food so the absence of those enzymes does not prevent digestion.
Some people make health claims for the fraction of digestion that
might be done by the enzymes in raw meat. I have never seen any
evidence that there is any benefit from those enzymes on a dog's health.
(Some claims for possible benefits of enzymes in raw foods that were
made in the past were based on poor information, and those claims are
made much less often now.)

If you want to feed your dog the way a wolf eats, then you would feed
raw meat, and there would be enzymes in the meat. So that is the
natural state of a dog's ancestral diet, and it might be important to
some people to duplicate all the properties of the natural diet,
whether there is a known benefit or not, since there are many things
we don't know about nutrition. But as far as the claim for specific
benefits from the enzymes, I don't think there's good evidence for a
health benefit from intact enzymes in raw meat during digestion and
absorption.

Marty

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9a. Vomit greyish brownish liquid with bone chunk and meat and mucusy po
Posted by: "Yasuko herron" sunshine_annamaria@yahoo.com sunshine_annamaria
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:33 pm ((PDT))

Hi. I have just found my dog vomit 5 spots ;near bathroom where I was,top of the stairs on her favorite bed 2 parts,and next to bed,mucousy poo but solid,and shewas laying on entrance door where she vomitted 2 spots.

When i just out from bathroom,I saw this pile of meat chunk with bone bits in greyish brownish liquid on carpet and,I heard vomiting sound,so,I went up stairs and found her vomitting around door,and my husband came out from shower and found another vomitting spots with poo.

I know that if there were bits of bone,it means,too much bone in one sitting right?

Greyish brownish liquid is telling you any??

It is not from butt but from mouth with chunk of meat and bone.

I am thinking she got rid of most of all meal she had this morning.

I did not cut any fat off from rib,and I know she was doing ok last feeding months ago and I am not sure waht was bad about it.

I fed... Beef Short Rib and 1oz sized Green Tripe, and Fish oil.All that she is familiar with.

No idea what is causing this.

Shedid vomitted this morning before feeding,but yellow bile which I know because hungry.

I did not fast her and just fed because it is just hungry sign. I do not feed on exactly same time,but today,she did vomitted up bile,and now this.

Should I fast her?? My husband say we better fast her but she vomitted most of her morning meal...

After I saw all these, I am feeling she looks bit under the weather.

Would you tell me what is causing this and how should i do for feeding?

I know i need to give her liquid but, not sure if I like to feed boneless pork or not which I defrosted in fridge for tonight.

Any suggestionswill be appreciated.

I do not think meat was bad because she had no prob before..and she been fed tripe for 2weeks or so,and saw no prob ..with it.

Was it too much fat because Idid not trim fat??? Anyway,she is looking not feeling good.

I took her out again and she gave water out from butt so,i think sheseems having butt prob too.

yassy

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9b. Re: Vomit greyish brownish liquid with bone chunk and meat and mucus
Posted by: "Casey Post" mikken@neo.rr.com mikkeny
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:31 pm ((PDT))

Yassy,

Sounds like she may be ill. It might not be related to the food at all, but
something viral.

Casey

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9c. Re: Vomit greyish brownish liquid with bone chunk and meat and mucus
Posted by: "Belinda van de Loo" auntielindyloo@yahoo.com belindavandeloo
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:36 pm ((PDT))

Yassy,
If it were my dog, I'd give his tummy a rest by fasting or giving broth
(boil a meaty bone and cool down the broth).
Whatever he ate obviously did not settle well. The mucousy poop is
indication of the bowels being irritated, possibly by bone bits. The
vomit sounds like the contents of the stomach with some bile.
Keep monitoring his poop... make sure he has bowel sounds. If he
refuses water/broth and is not pooping... get him to a vet - could be
blockage.
All the best,
Belinda and "Honey" from Holland

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10a. Re: "Treats?"
Posted by: "eyed_blue" eyed_blue@yahoo.co.uk eyed_blue
Date: Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:35 pm ((PDT))

I much prefer to give natural treats so I give liver that I have
boiled then dried in the oven myself but if Im using treats out of a
shop then I use Bob Martin puppy bites as it is a dried meat treat
instead of a biscuit, they are great for recall, they stink! You can
get them in Asda.

Have to admit though, I dont mind giving the occasional dog biscuit as
long as it is a treat and not part of his main diet. I have seen a
range in Pets at Home that are all natural dried treats, heart,liver,
prawn and others, think the product is called Thrive. I have not tried
it but I would buy that rather than a cereal based biscuit. Sorry
this is so long winded, hope its of some help.

Natalie

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