[rawfeeding] Digest Number 11985

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. feeding once or twice a day
From: redwinejoy

2a. Re: where to feed dogs
From: Alan & Andrea Southern

3a. Hi,
From: chrisstfo@aol.com
3b. Re: Hi,
From: Brandi Bryant
3c. Re: Hi,
From: Sandee Lee

4a. Re: Who on this list has been feeding RAW for many years?
From: coriowen

5a. Re: bully sticks (was: where to feed dogs)
From: Laurie Swanson
5b. Re: bully sticks (was: where to feed dogs)
From: Renate Hotchkiss
5c. Re: bully sticks (was: where to feed dogs)
From: Carol Wimmer

6a. Re: leg quarters
From: delcaste

7a. Re: Pet care
From: Carol Wimmer

8a. Re: Hello I am new here
From: Carol Wimmer
8b. Re: Hello I am new here
From: heather pavelin
8c. Re: Hello I am new here
From: linoleum5017
8d. Re: Hello I am new here
From: costrowski75

9a. Beef Tongue
From: Donna
9b. Re: Beef Tongue
From: Belinda Mitchell

10a. Re: skin issues (was: My intro...)
From: linoleum5017
10b. Re: skin issues (was: My intro...)
From: Laurie Swanson

11. Teeth revisted
From: my3jcs

12. Help! Sick pup
From: my3jcs

13a. ADMIN/Re: Pet care
From: costrowski75

14a. Re: My Saints and apples
From: costrowski75

15a. Re: Pork Stomach?
From: costrowski75

16a. Re: New to the raw feeding+dairrhea and worms [ update ]
From: ferrarious

Messages
________________________________________________________________________

1. feeding once or twice a day
Posted by: "redwinejoy" redwine1@windstream.net redwinejoy
Date: Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:28 pm ((PDT))

Hey everyone: I have been reading everything for a few weeks, and feeding for a couple of
weeks. I have a 5 year old Sheltie who I have always considered to have a sensitive stomach.
I have always tried to feed twice a day because of this. I thought it best to continue this from
what I have read but now he seems to be getting bored after a couple of weeks. He had been
adjusting well with chicken so I added lamb one night. He threw up his breakfast the next
morning (chicken) and ever since hasn't really wanted to eat much. That has been a few
days. I have offered chicken and pork but neither seems to be what he wants. I am thinking
that trying once a day might make him more hungry to get him excited again but alot of the
info seems to suggest twice a day might be better for sensitive stomachs. My dream is after
he is adjusted that his system will become much more solid and he will settle into some
consistency. I know all dogs are individuals but any thoughts are appreciated. Joy

Messages in this topic (1)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

2a. Re: where to feed dogs
Posted by: "Alan & Andrea Southern" wykham@sa.chariot.net.au seawyndriana
Date: Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:29 pm ((PDT))

Ours get feed out side rain hail or shine, they all go to their own spot on the lawn, if it is wet they eat under the veranda.

Alan in Aldinga Beach South Australia
with the SP's Marli, Ella & Tango
http://www2.snapfish.com/photolibrary/owned_view=owned_az/t_=100236344
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/wykham/TangoSPups
http://users.chariot.net.au/~wykham

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Messages in this topic (17)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

3a. Hi,
Posted by: "chrisstfo@aol.com" chrisstfo@aol.com chrisstfo
Date: Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:59 pm ((PDT))

Hi, OK i have started my raw feeding to my dog. I am giving her chicken and
red meat. How do I know how much to feed her? Everyone is on my case saying
the dog is going to choke on the chicken bone or get salmonella. Thanks,
Chris

************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at

http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Messages in this topic (3)
________________________________________________________________________

3b. Re: Hi,
Posted by: "Brandi Bryant" bbryant573@gmail.com bbryant573
Date: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:54 pm ((PDT))

>>>>Hi, OK i have started my raw feeding to my dog. I am giving her chicken
and
red meat. <<<<

Hi Chris -

You've got her on red meat already? How long have you been feeding raw? Is
she doing alright on chicken and red meat? They usually say to start with
chicken and stay with chicken for a week or two, so the dog's system can get
use to digesting raw meat. Then add another protein like turkey or pork.
But if she's doing alright the rest on this list might say go ahead and do
red meat also.

>>>>How do I know how much to feed her? Everyone is on my case saying
the dog is going to choke on the chicken bone or get salmonella.<<<<

How old is your dog? If he/she is a puppy you want to feed twice a day, if
he/she is an adult then feeding once is alright. I have both pups and
adults - I feed my puppies in the morning along with my adults I just don't
give the adults as much. And the they get an evening meal, their evening
meal is usually bigger. You have to judge by the way your dog looks if
he/she is too skinny feed more, if he/she is getting "fluffy" feed less.
You should be feeding 2-3% of your dogs body weight, more if he/she is young
and still growing (4-6% of the puppys weight). 80% meat, 10% bone and 10%
organ. Be careful of the organ it can cause diaherra, little amounts.
Chicken bones are SAFE as long as THEY ARE NOT COOKED!!! A dogs system is
much more capable of of handling salmonella then ours is. They have the
necessary (ok guys may need your help here!!!) enezemy to fight the bad
stuff off - I think if you go back through the archives they do have a
pretty good discussion on salmonella and e-coli. Can someone give her the
link to the archives. I just go to the rawfeed yahoo group website and go
through the messages. Long way I guess - anyway. I hope I've answered your
questions and I'm sure more of the experts will chime in and help which I'm
a newbie myself.

Good luck,
Brandi
bbryant573@gmail.com
Bartlesville, OK
www.obediencetrainingclubofbartlesville.com

On 8/31/07, chrisstfo@aol.com <chrisstfo@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, OK i have started my raw feeding to my dog. I am giving her chicken
> and
> red meat. How do I know how much to feed her? Everyone is on my case
> saying
> the dog is going to choke on the chicken bone or get salmonella. Thanks,
> Chris
>
> ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL
> at
> http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

--
Brandi
Bartlesville, Ok
www.obediencetrainingclubofbartlesville.com

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Messages in this topic (3)
________________________________________________________________________

3c. Re: Hi,
Posted by: "Sandee Lee" rlee@plix.com mariasmom2001
Date: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:19 pm ((PDT))

Chris,

Ignore what "everyone" is saying! Dogs can choke on anything including
kibble, toys, treats, sticks...the list is endless...and salmonella is
everywhere.

You want to feed 2-3% of her ideal adult weight. When you say you are
feeding chicken and red meat, what does that mean? What parts of the
chicken, what parts of red meat? When did you begin?

Sandee & the Dane Gang

From: <chrisstfo@aol.com>

> Hi, OK i have started my raw feeding to my dog. I am giving her chicken
and
> red meat. How do I know how much to feed her? Everyone is on my case
saying
> the dog is going to choke on the chicken bone or get salmonella. Thanks,

Messages in this topic (3)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

4a. Re: Who on this list has been feeding RAW for many years?
Posted by: "coriowen" COwen98@aol.com coriowen
Date: Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:00 pm ((PDT))

Anyone? I thought I would bump this just in case not many saw it. ;)
Cori

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "coriowen" <COwen98@...> wrote:
>
> I know we have several on this list that are tremendous helps and
THANK
> YOU! I am in my second week with my girls and I don't ever see
myself
> ever going back to kibble. My two Dachshunds are young, one is 2
3/4
> years and the other is 10 mos and my Mastiff and Doberman will be 5
in
> a few months. They are getting a pretty good shot at starting Raw
> feeding at young ages and for the big girls, fairly young ages.
Are
> there any stats as to the added longivity to lifespan on Raw Fed
Dogs?
> I know I read about the dog in Austrailia that was 27 or 29 in like
> 2005 or something and all he has ever eaten was wild prey diet in
the
> outback. If there is more info can someone direct me to it? I
> appreciate it. I think that is what we are all striving for,
> healthier, happier pets that have the chance to live longer than
the
> usual 12-15 years. I do know a lady that feeds raw and her
Dachshund
> is 20 years old. Very impressive. =)
> Cori and my girls =)
>

Messages in this topic (2)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

5a. Re: bully sticks (was: where to feed dogs)
Posted by: "Laurie Swanson" laurie@mckinneyphoto.com las_lala
Date: Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:00 pm ((PDT))

Are you sure you want to know? :-) It's dried bull penis. Great
chewies, though!

Laurie

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Renate Hotchkiss"
<renate.tideswell@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry for my ignorance, but what the heck is a bully stick?

Messages in this topic (17)
________________________________________________________________________

5b. Re: bully sticks (was: where to feed dogs)
Posted by: "Renate Hotchkiss" renate.tideswell@gmail.com tideswell_renate
Date: Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:35 pm ((PDT))

REALLY????? OK, wow. We don't have those here, at least, not as far as I
know., but then at the ripe old age of 52 I seem to be so so innoCent -
sorry, but my ittle C doesn't seem to work. We were raised in a farming
family but that's a new one on me. Thanks for filling me in.
Renate

On 8/31/07, Laurie Swanson <laurie@mckinneyphoto.com> wrote:
>
> Are you sure you want to know? :-) It's dried bull penis. Great
> chewies, though!
>
> Laurie
>
> --- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com <rawfeeding%40yahoogroups.com>, "Renate
> Hotchkiss"
> <renate.tideswell@...> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry for my ignorance, but what the heck is a bully stick?
>
>
>

--
Renate
'The more I learn about men, the more I love my Shih Tzu'

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Messages in this topic (17)
________________________________________________________________________

5c. Re: bully sticks (was: where to feed dogs)
Posted by: "Carol Wimmer" my3jcs@yahoo.com my3jcs
Date: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:53 pm ((PDT))

Oh my gosh! They eat those???? Now, are rocky
mountain oysters really oysters or they something
else???

Carol
Rocky,Rex,Mack

--- Laurie Swanson <laurie@mckinneyphoto.com> wrote:

> Are you sure you want to know? :-) It's dried bull
> penis.
>
>
> --- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Renate
> Hotchkiss"
> <renate.tideswell@...> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry for my ignorance, but what the heck is a
> bully stick?
>
>
>

____________________________________________________________________________________
Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.

http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433

Messages in this topic (17)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

6a. Re: leg quarters
Posted by: "delcaste" delcaste@yahoo.com delcaste
Date: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:49 pm ((PDT))

> i have small, smash faced dogs (13 pounds). they are getting between
> 4-6 ounces of rmb daily. i can get chicken quarters for $.59 a pound
> but they of course are too big to feed at one sitting. could i just
> cut them up (as best i can) into 'appropriate' size meals or do i
> risk causing problems with the bones?

Hi Kris, I have 2 pugs at just 20 pounds that eat 6 oz and I feed them
thighs and drums separately. IMO, you can cut them up and feed them in
appropriate size meals it's what I do with my dogs.

Silvina

Messages in this topic (13)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

7a. Re: Pet care
Posted by: "Carol Wimmer" my3jcs@yahoo.com my3jcs
Date: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:51 pm ((PDT))

Hi Anita!

I am new to the group and also a pet sitter. I'm
sorry you had a bad experience. Most sitters are very
professional and do a great job. Try www.petsit.com
and ask about experience with feeding raw. Most will
probably not know about raw, but are very willing to
learn. Don't kennel unless you absolutely have to.
You can email me privately and I can tell you what to
look for when hiring a pet sitting service. I started
feeding raw a couple of weeks ago and have also
thought about who will feed my pups when I am away. I
have a great sitter and my father also pops in to see
my boys and has agreed to learn the feeding routine.

Carol
Rocky,Rex,Mack
--- Anita <craftyhoosiermama@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi-
> I have a few questions about pet care and boarding
> on a raw diet. We
> have a few trips coming up before the end of the
> year.
> We've used a pet sitter in the past but recently had
> a bad experience
> with one and my dh really just wants to kennel her
> from now on.
>

____________________________________________________________________________________
Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more.

http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC

Messages in this topic (3)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

8a. Re: Hello I am new here
Posted by: "Carol Wimmer" my3jcs@yahoo.com my3jcs
Date: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:51 pm ((PDT))

I just did this! My boxer mix has been eating great
for 2 weeks then stopped eating yesterday. I got
worried, so brought the food in and cut it up. I have
been feeding my guys outside in the grass. When I cut
it up and put his bowl where he used to eat his kibble
(in the house) he ate the entire bowl. This is my
quirky guy. He won't step where another dog has
pottied (tip toes around) and won't get his feet wet.
Sheesh!

Carol
Rocky,Rex,Mack

she knows if
> she refuses to eat what
> you offer you will pick it up and cut it into
> convenient pieces for her. That
> way she never has to put any real effort into
> eating.
>
> Catherine R.
>
>
>
> ************************************** Get a sneak
> peek of the all-new AOL at
> http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>

____________________________________________________________________________________
Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.
http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting

Messages in this topic (18)
________________________________________________________________________

8b. Re: Hello I am new here
Posted by: "heather pavelin" hpav061378@yahoo.com hpav061378
Date: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:52 pm ((PDT))

Actually feeding once per day has made it better. Leo is my huh?what? dog nothing normal works for him. He was having loose stool but after going to once a day he is now having hard poop for once in 4 months that he has been with me Yay!! I am going to be very very cautious with him and trying new things. Thanks Heather

---------------------------------
Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha!
Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Messages in this topic (18)
________________________________________________________________________

8c. Re: Hello I am new here
Posted by: "linoleum5017" linoleum5017@yahoo.com linoleum5017
Date: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:54 pm ((PDT))

Hi, Heather,

Welcome to Rawfeeding. Best suggestion to give is to read the posts,
and ask questions. Archives are also very helpful. Sounds like
you're off to a good start with Leo and Claire.

Lynne

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Heather" <hpav061378@...> wrote:
>
> My name is Heather and I have 2 greyhounds Leo and Claire. Any
suggestions would be
> great. thanks Heather
>

Messages in this topic (18)
________________________________________________________________________

8d. Re: Hello I am new here
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:23 pm ((PDT))

"Andrea" <poketmouse45@...> wrote:
From the
> conversation it sounds like Leo might be having loose stool because
> he's eating a little more than his stomach can digest right now. If
> I'm right, you'll probably find that feeding the whole day's worth in
> one go has made the problem worse. You may want to go back to two
> meals a day and slowly work back up to one meal if this is the case.
*****
I'm with you, Andrea.
I feed my healthy adult dogs once a day or less; my 11mo pup was moved
from two feedings to one feeding somewhat over a month ago. But I
moved them all to their current arrangement over time, not slam bam.
And since not a one has had trouble eating one big meal a day, I can
only assume that gentling them into the concept is what worked. I
mean, I think they're unique and terribly special but digestionwise I
figure them for pretty normal.

I would recommend moving from two evensteven meals to one that's bigger
and one that's not...and then gradually increase size difference and
then gradually decrease the amount of time between the two now-uneven
meals until except for maybe a tidbit you're only feeding one meal.

Another way to help a dog into one meal a day is to start mixing up
feeding times right away. The faster you can get away from scheduled
meals, the less poorly the dog will react to "mistimed" food. Once
it's been made clear that dinner time is when the one with the thumbs
says it's dinner time, it will be easier to skip meals entirely.

But none of this has to happen lickety-split. And probably shouldn't.
Chris O

Messages in this topic (18)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

9a. Beef Tongue
Posted by: "Donna" donnad2998@yahoo.com donnad2998
Date: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:52 pm ((PDT))

I bought a huge beef tongue tonight. How does one feed this to their
dog? Do I give the whole thing or cut it up? I have a great dane 8
months and a beagle that is not to sure of this raw food stuff. My
dane has taken to the raw great. Her coat is beautiful and so soft.
Thank you to everyone one here this has been a very pleasant switch
from K***le to RAW.
Donna

Messages in this topic (9)
________________________________________________________________________

9b. Re: Beef Tongue
Posted by: "Belinda Mitchell" dubhruah@velocitynet.com.au dubhruadh
Date: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:25 pm ((PDT))

Donna,

How to feed tongue -

Easy - cut a piece off for the beagle (about 1/3) and give the rest
to the dane! Or better yet give one whole tongue to the dane and get
another and chop it in half, and give the beagle one half. Tongue is
a rich and slightly fatty muscle meat with a tough skin. Your dogs
should have fun, but do expect smelly gas (front and rear) if you
haven't fed this before, and possibly loose stoll.

Cheers

Belinda

Messages in this topic (9)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

10a. Re: skin issues (was: My intro...)
Posted by: "linoleum5017" linoleum5017@yahoo.com linoleum5017
Date: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:53 pm ((PDT))

Laurie, (and Ginny,)

Thank you for clarifying. I oversimplified, which isn't helpful.
I'll keep reading your posts, and I'll keep an open mind! (and maybe
close my mouth/typing a bit more?)

Lynne

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Laurie Swanson" <laurie@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Lynne,
>
> Itchy skin can be caused by or exacerbated by diet. My dog gets
itchy
> from grains. Others have mentioned noticing itchiness related to
> enhanced meats. I'm sure it's not always that simple or easy to
> correlate, and there can be many other factors, but what's going on
on
> the inside can definitely show up externally.
>
> Laurie
>
> ---

Messages in this topic (6)
________________________________________________________________________

10b. Re: skin issues (was: My intro...)
Posted by: "Laurie Swanson" laurie@mckinneyphoto.com las_lala
Date: Sat Sep 1, 2007 3:37 am ((PDT))

No problem, Lynne--don't feel like you have to be quiet. We all have
our opinions/experiences and can learn from each other--that's what
it's all about.

Laurie

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "linoleum5017" <linoleum5017@...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> Laurie, (and Ginny,)
>
> Thank you for clarifying. I oversimplified, which isn't helpful.
> I'll keep reading your posts, and I'll keep an open mind! (and
maybe
> close my mouth/typing a bit more?)
>
> Lynne
>

Messages in this topic (6)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

11. Teeth revisted
Posted by: "my3jcs" my3jcs@yahoo.com my3jcs
Date: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:55 pm ((PDT))

I've been reading the posts on dogs with missing and worn teeth, but
if teeth are worn, doesn't the nerve get hit when they chew the
bones? My dog's canines look like they have been cut in half
lengthwise and he has stopped eating meats with bone. I set an appt.
with a dental specialist. Is this a wasted trip?

Carol
Rocky,Rex,Mack

Messages in this topic (1)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

12. Help! Sick pup
Posted by: "my3jcs" my3jcs@yahoo.com my3jcs
Date: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:56 pm ((PDT))

I started feeding raw 2 weeks ago and have a sick pup. He had a
little pineapple yesterday afternoon and a country pork rib (6-7 oz)
for dinner. I've been feeding a little pork neck each day along with
the normal chicken or turkey to get him used to the pork. Dinner last
night was the first for pork rib. He started vomiting this morning
and has done this several times throughout the day and evening.
Mostly water as he is drinking a lot. The first couple of vomits had
a bit of pork and pineapple in them, the rest have been clear with a
little mucus. He did have a normal poop this morning. I'm worried
about dehydration at this point and am thinking I need to get to the
emergency vet. I'm hoping someone can answer quickly and let me know
if this is normal. He has had no problems with any food up until
now.

Thank you!

Carol
Rocky,Rex,Mack

Messages in this topic (1)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

13a. ADMIN/Re: Pet care
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:26 pm ((PDT))

Petsitters and boarding are topics better served by the RawChat list.
Please take this discussion there (or of course private if you'd
rather).

Thanks.
Chris O
Mod Team

Messages in this topic (3)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

14a. Re: My Saints and apples
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:32 pm ((PDT))

"alluponjanice" <alluponjanice@...> wrote:
Whenever my wife eats them
> they want them too.I am afraid she is going to set one on the table
one
> day and (poof!)they're eating apple! My question is if they get
hold of
> one is it harmful
*****
My great old golden guy (RIP) used to pick carefully through fallen
apples to find just the whatever it was he considered perfection.
And then he'd take a bite or two and move on.

Too many apples is not a good menu plan so your wife will have to
restrain her impulses to share with the dogs. And certainly the
right (wrong?) size apple in the right (wrong?) size throat could be
very harmful indeed. I think if your wife should limit both the
amount of apple she shares and the size of pieces she offers.

Beyond that, I don't see any reason to completely deny them some
apple bits.
Chris o

Messages in this topic (2)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

15a. Re: Pork Stomach?
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:34 pm ((PDT))

"Penelope Quillen" <copperquillpen@...> wrote:
I also saw a package labeled "Empty Pork Stomach."
> It was right next to the pork liver. Is that good for anything? And
I know
> this is not really on the subject, but can people eat pork liver?
*****
No.
Yes.
Chris O

Messages in this topic (3)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

16a. Re: New to the raw feeding+dairrhea and worms [ update ]
Posted by: "ferrarious" ferrarious@yahoo.com ferrarious
Date: Sat Sep 1, 2007 3:37 am ((PDT))

Hi,

After checking the stool for few days I think the puppy doesn't have
worms.

I found out that every time he eats chicken buddy ( the back and the
chest ) he starts to throw up and diarrhea so I started to give him
only chicken quarters ( legs and thighs ), he eats two quarters a day
divided to 4 meals. But there is a problem, he lost 500 gr from the
moment we started raw feeding but what more scares me is that he
looks skinny, the ribs are stuck out and the back above the belly is
very thin, I thought to give him more a day but I am afraid to do it
too quickly so he won't start to vomit and diarrhea again.

What do you think is the best way to go?

p.s. I have a lot of pressure at home to go back to k***le but for
now I am standing firm, I hope it is going to be alright.

Dan.

Messages in this topic (12)
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

All information on this list represents personal opinion only. By staying on this list, you agree to never hold anyone from this list or associated with this list liable for any information posted through this list. You agree to take personal responsibility for your learning, and for personal responsibility for what you feed yourself, your family, and your dogs, cats, ferrets, or any other animal that lives under your care. If you don't agree, please unsubscribe immediately.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding/

<*> Your email settings:
Digest Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding/join

(Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
mailto:rawfeeding-normal@yahoogroups.com
mailto:rawfeeding-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
rawfeeding-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:

http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

------------------------------------------------------------------------