Feed Pets Raw Food: [rawfeeding] Digest Number 11916

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Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: small raw previously frozen bones?
From: tottime47
1b. Re: small raw previously frozen bones?
From: costrowski75
1c. Re: small raw previously frozen bones?
From: JOHN PFAFF

2a. Bones bones
From: Gaynor McConnell
2b. Re: Bones bones
From: Andrea

3a. She ate the chicken.................finally!
From: mgn_moore
3b. Re: She ate the chicken.................finally!
From: Andrea
3c. Re: She ate the chicken.................finally!
From: borodeauxs
3d. Re: She ate the chicken.................finally!
From: Nathalie Poulin

4a. Re: New Here - Looking to start feeding a raw diet to my yorkie.
From: brake4breyers832

5a. Re: weight of food or feeding small dogs
From: tottime47

6a. Re: lamb neck bones
From: Yuliya Brown

7a. Finding expired meats
From: K. Gordon Crawford
7b. Re: Finding expired meats
From: Shireen Schwartz
7c. Re: Finding expired meats
From: costrowski75
7d. Re: Finding expired meats
From: Kris
7e. Re: Finding expired meats
From: Nathalie Poulin

8a. Re: vet says Yeay to rawfeeding
From: Patty Reid
8b. Re: vet says Yeay to rawfeeding
From: tottime47
8c. Re: vet says Yeay to rawfeeding
From: Giselle
8d. Re: vet says Yeay to rawfeeding
From: Patty Reid

9a. Re: whole chicken tonight??
From: costrowski75

10a. ADMIN/Re: how can i entice my dog to eat organs?
From: costrowski75

11a. Re: how can i entice my dog to eat organs?
From: Sheryl Edelen

12. Suburban rabbits?
From: Sonja

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1a. Re: small raw previously frozen bones?
Posted by: "tottime47" tottime@aol.com tottime47
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:48 am ((PDT))

Hi John,

If you dog chased down a rabbit or squirrel in the woods, they would
probably eat it
without anyone taking off the fur or head, so if you can get them
whole, I would leave them
that way and feed........(after freezing for several weeks)
It all depends on if your dog will eat them that way, if not you
might have to take off
the fur. Seems most dogs like the heads............

Carol & Charkee

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "JOHN PFAFF" <johnpfaff@...> wrote:

I am just trying to duplicate a natural diet but would use beef,
lamb, eggs , etc. along with the whole rabbit or squirrel - probably
take the head off to avoid the teeth and take the tail or most of the
fur off to avoid barfing.

JOHN PFAFF

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1b. Re: small raw previously frozen bones?
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:47 am ((PDT))

"JOHN PFAFF" <johnpfaff@...> wrote:
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> I am just trying to duplicate a natural diet but would use beef,
lamb, eggs , etc. along with the whole rabbit or squirrel - probably
take the head off to avoid the teeth and take the tail or most of the
fur off to avoid barfing. Rabbits and squirrels are free while the
other components are quite costly. Soooo>>>>feed the whole critter
after freezing for a few and then thawing to feed?
*****
You can leave the head on. Teeth are no big deal; if the dog isn't
interested in eating them, the dog will not eat them. You do not
have to edit the critter.

Likewise, fur should be left on. If the dog will eat it (some will
not), the dog will process it through, perhaps producing some stool
wads but that's normal. When my dogs eat whole rabbit or hair/wool-
on goat and lamb, their stools are larger which reflects the bulk of
the indigestible fur but they've never vomited hair. Certainly the
notion makes me gag, but I am not doing the eating.

When you have the opportunity to feed whole wild prey, do so. The
more you remove from the equation, the less nutritionally complete it
is. Freezing for parasite control is really all you need do.
Chris O

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1c. Re: small raw previously frozen bones?
Posted by: "JOHN PFAFF" johnpfaff@comcast.net rawfeednewbie
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:32 am ((PDT))

Thanks so much....when I attempt to edit to reduce message length, the whole message goes into my delete file. Good to know that wild game is a winner as I live in squirrel land with occasional rabbits. TKS.
John
JOHN PFAFF
----- Original Message -----
From: costrowski75
To: rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 11:46 AM
Subject: [rawfeeding] Re: small raw previously frozen bones?

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2a. Bones bones
Posted by: "Gaynor McConnell" gnor@iinet.net.au gaena09
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:06 am ((PDT))

I have a small mixed breed 8 1/2 week puppy. She is only 2.3kg presently.
I keep reading that we need to feed meaty bones. Is there likely to be a problem with feeding her bones that are less meaty, such as rib bones and supplement with chopped meat from the pet food shop. My plan is to let her chew the meat off then take the bones away.

She is loving the raw meat I have given her so far, I am impressed at how she is so excited about meat over kibble and tinned food.

Gaynor

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2b. Re: Bones bones
Posted by: "Andrea" poketmouse45@yahoo.com poketmouse45
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:37 am ((PDT))

It's ok to feed boney meals once in a while with extra meaty meat on
the side, but boney meals shouldn't be bare nekkid bones ever. You
always want at least some meat covering part of the bones, and ideally
you want a meaty bone as in "there's so much meat I can't see the bone."

You don't really need that much bone in her diet actually (only around
10%), so if you have a hard time finding good meaty bones you can use
chicken, turkey, rabbit and such to give the bone she needs. Slabs of
beef ribs are a good workout and good entertainment for a pup. Mine
work on the ends of the rib bones for a while but don't consume the
whole thing. Hope that helps you, glad everything is going well!

Andrea

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Gaynor McConnell" <gnor@...> wrote:
>
> Is there likely to be a problem with feeding her bones that are
> less meaty, such as rib bones and supplement with chopped meat from
> the pet food shop. My plan is to let her chew the meat off then take
> the bones away.

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3a. She ate the chicken.................finally!
Posted by: "mgn_moore" mgn_moore@yahoo.com mgn_moore
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:18 am ((PDT))

Just wanted to thank everyone for walking me through Calla's first raw
meal! I bought a whole chicken yesterday and gave it to her last night.
After about 20 minutes of licking it, she finally started tearing off
skin. I had to cut the quarters off of it for her (I don't think she
knew how) and she ate 2 legs and a wing. She didn't bother with the
chicken back or the breasts, so I put them in the fridge and will feed
those to her tonight. I held my breath the whole time she was crunching
on the bones, but she did very good!
The only thing is, I feel bad for not feeding her anything this
morning. Is this bad? I don't have a whole lot of time for her to
decide to eat it and I am not going to leave her unsupervised. Is this
okay?

Megan

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3b. Re: She ate the chicken.................finally!
Posted by: "Andrea" poketmouse45@yahoo.com poketmouse45
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:37 am ((PDT))

Good job for both of you! It's always best to start off kind of
slowly, so don't worry about not feeding her this morning. A common
mistake newbies make is feeding too much too soon. Let her digest
today and then feed her tonight. Glad she caught on so quickly!

Andrea

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "mgn_moore" <mgn_moore@...> wrote:

> The only thing is, I feel bad for not feeding her anything this
> morning. Is this bad? I don't have a whole lot of time for her to
> decide to eat it and I am not going to leave her unsupervised. Is
> this okay?

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3c. Re: She ate the chicken.................finally!
Posted by: "borodeauxs" Borodeauxs@googlemail.com borodeauxs
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:15 am ((PDT))

Sure she will be perfectly fine missing the morning meal,..as the
> raw food is properly digested by the body,..and will feel a lot
> fuller then feed say a k***** feed,were it would be sent to the
> waste department as un-digestible,.no real value,..
> and would definately miss the meal if you can not supervise
> or better still get up a little earlier to give her more time..
> as a odd missed meal is ok,..would not make a habit out of it
though
> especially for puppies,..an older dog will be fine with one meal
per
> day,unless a large breed(deep chest),..as best to devide a large
> meal into two sittings to avoid any risk of bloat
> hope this helps ,and good luck with your feeding
> best wishes Stephen/Borodeauxs.

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3d. Re: She ate the chicken.................finally!
Posted by: "Nathalie Poulin" poulin_nathalie@yahoo.ca poulin_nathalie
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:18 am ((PDT))

That's the great thing about feeding raw, you feed
them when YOU feel like it.
I feed my dog once a day. Lately it's been later in
the afternoons because that is more convenient for me,
but sometimes it's in the mornings.
When your dog gets more used to this diet, she may not
take as long in the mornings and you can feed her
then.
It's up to your schedule and the dog!

Nathalie

> The only thing is, I feel bad for not feeding her
> anything this
> morning. Is this bad? I don't have a whole lot of
> time for her to
> decide to eat it and I am not going to leave her
> unsupervised. Is this
> okay?
>
> Megan
>
>

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4a. Re: New Here - Looking to start feeding a raw diet to my yorkie.
Posted by: "brake4breyers832" pebbles_diehl@hotmail.com brake4breyers832
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:37 am ((PDT))

> Susan,
> Have you tried chicken drumettes?
> TracyB

Actually, I have been buying whole chickens and cutting meals off of
them. So they would each get a wing section for a couple meals, then
some breast meat then drumsticks, etc. And I bought a bag of
drumsticks to keep the chicken going for a while so they could get
used to raw. Yesterday I found some ox tails and beef back ribs on
sale, so I picked those up to try a new protein source next week.
I was looking at package sizes of chicken or beef liver, but with
these two small dogs, it would take forever to go through the package
since they only need a small amount. Luckily, the whole chickens I
got yesterday had a couple hearts, a large liver chunk and some other
parts. Now I should be set to at least see how they are going to take
it.
Thanks for all the help on this list! I love reading everyone else's
posts!
Susan D.

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5a. Re: weight of food or feeding small dogs
Posted by: "tottime47" tottime@aol.com tottime47
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:44 am ((PDT))

Hi Silvina,

I don't do anything to the drumsticks.
I think they might have about 2 to 3 oz of
meat on them, plus the bone and skin.

If you get really big drumsticks then they could have 4oz of meat
I will have to debone & skin one next time I buy them, lol.

I have deboned and skinned a chicken thigh and I got 4oz of
actual meat.

To feed 6 oz a day I would get a thigh and debone it.

Then feed the drumstick with 2oz of meat at one meal and
2oz of meat at the other or you could feed the drumstick with
bone and skin at one meal and the 4 oz of deboned &
skinned thigh at the 2nd meal.

I think both a drumstick and thigh with bone and skin intact would
be too much bone and skin in one day, at least for my dog.

Whatever works best for you...it's would still be 6oz of chicken
for the day.

I think the bone in a drumstick is plenty of bone for a few days for
that size of dog.

Mine rarely eats the whole bone, usually the ends, but sometimes he
surprises me and eats it all, lol......

I usually give him one drumstick or other bone about
once every 3 days. That seems to keep his poo firm without
turning to pellets, lol..

I save up that extra bone and skin for those times when I feed
something else for the week (lbeef, bison, ect.) and need to add
in bone & skin.

You can do the same with chicken breast, which I actually prefer....

I cut a large one in half and feed the half for two meals.
One(skinned) meat only and one part with the skin and bones..

Somedays when I'm super lazy, I've actually given him a half chicken
(cutting some strips of meat loose with kitchen shears)....
let him eat till he's quit and put away till tomorrow, lol......
Of course he's a self regulator so it works for me...

Hope this helps.

Carol, Charkee & Moli ( I'm a self regulator too, unless Charkee's
around)

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "delcaste" <delcaste@...> wrote:

> Hi, Carol could you be a little more specific for me? I don't
> understand what you do to the drumstick, exactly. My dogs are to be
> eating a little over 6 oz a day going by the 2% ration and I'd like
> to keep feeding them twice a day.
>
> Silvina and the pugs

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6a. Re: lamb neck bones
Posted by: "Yuliya Brown" yuliya_brown@yahoo.com yuliya_brown
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:10 am ((PDT))

> Who is Peter? How to contact him?
>
he sells raw food for dogs in Maryland
www.topqualitydogfood.com
Yuliya

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7a. Finding expired meats
Posted by: "K. Gordon Crawford" kgcrawford@gmail.com kgcrawfordesq
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:14 am ((PDT))

What do most stores do with their expired meats? Anyone have luck
getting good items that would otherwise be thrown out at big grocery
stores, or wal-mart, Sams, Costco, etc?

I once found expired meat at a grocery and asked about selling at a
reduced price - explaining that I make my own pet food - and was told
that have a policy not to mark down but throw out meats to avoid
liability. They wouldn't even at the marked price. Is this the
typical response?

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7b. Re: Finding expired meats
Posted by: "Shireen Schwartz" quiltsnmosaics@yahoo.com quiltsnmosaics
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:37 am ((PDT))

I have been to my local stores in Kennesaw, GA Publix, Kroger, Costco, Walmart, even butcher. None are willing to sell expired meats because of liabilty is what I was told. Walmart will discout their meat the day b4 it expires by 30%. Can get some decent deals that way. You just have to hit it earlier in the day when the meat guy goes thru the available stock and reprices it. I was even told that they don't even allow their store employees to take the meat home, they guy told me he would still use it even if it was expired it's not 'bad' yet. All that good meat to the dump only if we could get our hands it!!!!
Shireen

----- Original Message ----
From: K. Gordon Crawford <kgcrawford@gmail.com>
To: rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 11:08:14 AM
Subject: [rawfeeding] Finding expired meats

What do most stores do with their expired meats? Anyone have luck
getting good items that would otherwise be thrown out at big grocery
stores, or wal-mart, Sams, Costco, etc?

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7c. Re: Finding expired meats
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:57 am ((PDT))

"K. Gordon Crawford" <kgcrawford@...> wrote:
was told
> that have a policy not to mark down but throw out meats to avoid
> liability. They wouldn't even at the marked price. Is this the
> typical response?
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Yes.
In addition to not wanting to annoy the USDA, most grocery stores and
probably all chain supermarkets have contracts with renderers and other
middlemen involved in the animal food industry. I think you might have
a chance with single-store indies and Mom 'n' Pop shops.

With mainstream stores, I've found bargains at the "date of expiry"
level, but nothing older than that. Often the "date of" stuff is put
out just before closing or first thing in the morning.

Good luck!
Chris O

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7d. Re: Finding expired meats
Posted by: "Kris" kdnhs@verizon.net kickyoasskris
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:49 am ((PDT))

I agree! What a waste! I went to a local grocery store and asked for any scraps like fat, bone etc. and they couldn't give it to me, they had to throw it away. So sad that this could be used rather than just thrown out like that.

Kris

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7e. Re: Finding expired meats
Posted by: "Nathalie Poulin" poulin_nathalie@yahoo.ca poulin_nathalie
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:32 am ((PDT))

Yah. I used to work at Loblaws and their policy is to
throw out bread/meat etc (if it goes past the sale
date), they won't give anything away for free, not
even to employees.
Unless you can make friendly with a butcher (but it
would be their job on the line if upper management
found out), so it really all depends.
Your best bet would be to get the meat on the day it
expires or find some older meat on the shelf that they
can reduce.

Nathalie

--- "K. Gordon Crawford" <kgcrawford@gmail.com> wrote:

> What do most stores do with their expired meats?
> I once found expired meat at a grocery and asked
> about selling at a
> reduced price - explaining that I make my own pet
> food - and was told
> that have a policy not to mark down but throw out
> meats to avoid
> liability. They wouldn't even at the marked price.
> Is this the
> typical response?

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8a. Re: vet says Yeay to rawfeeding
Posted by: "Patty Reid" pattyannreidster@gmail.com pattyannreid
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:16 am ((PDT))

Please explain what RMB means?

Patty

On 8/15/07, Ivette Casiano <ivettecasiano@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I finally found a vet that says it's good to feed raw. She is a holistic
> vet and ironically is close to the previous vet we used to use. I have had a
> hard time convincing my bf, Brian, to feed Nugget raw. He needed the
> validation of a medical professional and that's why I looked for a holistic
> vet, among other things (like vaccinations which now scare the hell out of
> me). While we were there I asked questions I already knew the answers to
> that I had learned on this website like, "can I give him a quarter chicken -
> bone and all, what about organs, what about choking, what about the
> nutrients he needs?" She answered all of these as all of you have on this
> site and I glared at my bf (but I held my tongue from saying "YOU SEE". I
> didn't want to totally embarrass him). So Nugget is now on total raw (going
> on the 4th day). Now I have to start working on convincing him to let me
> feed him RMBs. I need to take baby steps with him, the bf, not Nugget. We
> will be starting a new
> protein soon but I'm waiting for a little while longer for the organs.
> The lump on his back was just a fat deposit. Whew, what a relief. .
>
> Ivette Casiano
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8b. Re: vet says Yeay to rawfeeding
Posted by: "tottime47" tottime@aol.com tottime47
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:10 am ((PDT))

Hi Patty,

This one is easy, lol.

RMB = Raw Meaty Bone
You buy a piece of meat, you can see the end of the bone inside the
chunk, but if someone ask you to describe the whole bone in there,
you can't as most of it is hidden within the meat and you have no
ideal what it looks like.
The perfect meat for feeding......

RBM = Raw Bony with some Meat on it, lol
This one is easy too....You buy a piece of meat and can easily tell
there is a bone in there and can easily see how big it is.
Not so good for feeding without adding extra meat.

Carol, Charkee & Moli (the meat experts)

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Patty Reid"
<pattyannreidster@...> wrote:
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> Please explain what RMB means?
>
> Patty

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8c. Re: vet says Yeay to rawfeeding
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:30 am ((PDT))

Hi, Patty!
Its a term that doesn't really explain the way we feed on
this list. Its become sort of synonymous with "raw feeding". That is
inaccurate, because it really is a term from the B*RF way of feeding.
It stands for R.aw M.eaty B.ones.

But, when used in the B*RF way of feeding it usually means mostly
inedible bones that don't have nearly enough meat and are often bare
nekkid beef bones (soup bones, marrow bones, dog bones) that wear a
dog's teeth down and can be tooth breakers. It can also mean chicken
backs, solo chicken or turkey necks or chicken carcasses or frames
that, while entirely edible, don't have nearly enough meat by
themselves. Feeding this way is often cheap, but can cause white
crumbly poops and constipation, since there is too much bone, and not
enough meat in the total diet.

Beef femurs are often fed by B*RFers as 'recreational' bones, to
provide tooth cleaning and chewing activity.

When in reality, if you feed the species appropriate prey model way,
the dog gets more than enough physical, mental and dental activity by
the mostly entirely consumable bones and meat hunks that are part of
the whole animal or animal parts we feed.
TMI? ; )
TC
Giselle
with Bea in New Jersey

> Please explain what RMB means?
>
> Patty

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8d. Re: vet says Yeay to rawfeeding
Posted by: "Patty Reid" pattyannreidster@gmail.com pattyannreid
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:49 am ((PDT))

Thankyou! You can sure tell how new I am to this!

Patty

On 8/16/07, tottime47 <tottime@aol.com> wrote:
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> Hi Patty,
>
> This one is easy, lol.
>
> RMB = Raw Meaty Bone
> You buy a piece of meat, you can see the end of the bone inside the
> chunk, but if someone ask you to describe the whole bone in there,
> you can't as most of it is hidden within the meat and you have no
> ideal what it looks like.
> The perfect meat for feeding......
>
> RBM = Raw Bony with some Meat on it, lol
> This one is easy too....You buy a piece of meat and can easily tell
> there is a bone in there and can easily see how big it is.
> Not so good for feeding without adding extra meat.
>
> Carol, Charkee & Moli (the meat experts)
>
> --- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com <rawfeeding%40yahoogroups.com>, "Patty
> Reid"
> <pattyannreidster@...> wrote:
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> > Please explain what RMB means?
> >
> > Patty
>
>
>

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9a. Re: whole chicken tonight??
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:29 am ((PDT))

"Giselle" <megan.giselle@...> wrote:
>> Unless they are butterflied, I do think that they offer more of an
> opportunity for gulping whole, especially for an inexperienced newbie
> dog of a larger size.
*****
You're right, any compact food made floppy offers more resistance. I
don't think an intact game hen is likely to be choked on, newbie dog or
otherwise, but since everything is has potential for stupid eating, it
would not be realistic to exclude game hens.

> I think chicken offers a better price than Game Hen, and why feed more
> expensive chicken if you don't need to?
*****
Sure, all things being equal. My guess is most whole chickens bought
even with best of beginner intentions wind up hacked and fed in the
same small parts that feeding whole avoids. IMO a few game hens
butterflied (if needed) and fed whole is not a long term expense but
rather an introductory feeding option akin to buying similarly priced
rib-in chicken breasts. But more challenging.

It's not a big deal of course. And far be it from me to deny a willing
dog Big Food! Half chickens are easily as challenging to a beginner
dog as whole game hens are. Nevertheless, I remain reluctant to remove
whole game hens (economically or extravagantly purchased) from my
Beginner Open To Buy list.

Chris O

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10a. ADMIN/Re: how can i entice my dog to eat organs?
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:35 am ((PDT))

Please remember that recipes and cooking instructions (including
dehydrating) are topics inappropriate to the rawfeeding list. All such
posts will be redirected to RawChat. Or worse. Thank you.
Chris O

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11a. Re: how can i entice my dog to eat organs?
Posted by: "Sheryl Edelen" sophiiblu@yahoo.com sophiiblu
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:51 am ((PDT))

One of my dogs, Faith is notoriously finicky when it comes to organs; she definitely doesn't like the thawed, I think the squishy, wiggly texture grosses her out. And her being really hungry also helps, but I just sprinkle a bit of parmesan cheese on there and she usually at least nibbles. Worked for my cat, Robert Earl as well, before he decided he would eat anything put in front of him. Try it.

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12. Suburban rabbits?
Posted by: "Sonja" ladyver@sbcglobal.net lonepalm77
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:34 am ((PDT))

We live in Orange County, CA and our neighborhood is over-run by rabbits. The guy on the corner has been plucking off rabbits for years and the guy across the street from me is on the local SWAT team. He now has a vendetta against the rabbits ever since he tried to shoo them away with an air gun. The "bullet" stuck nicely into the fur on the rabbit's head (didn't penetrate skin) and the rabbit just looked at him like he was crazy and continued munching away on the lawn.

Now for the question....these rabbits eat my herbs, flowers, vegetables, and the lawn (along with everyone elses which probably include pesticides and fertilizers)....would feeding these rabbits to my dog be the equivilent of feeding her a fish from a heavily polluted pond? I would appreciate any opinions, right now I won't feed them because I'm not sure. I know freezing takes care of parasites, but it won't do a darned thing for toxins....

Thanks!

Sonja

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