[rawfeeding] Digest Number 11824

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Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: Question: 8 week old puppy (Sambuca) need advice on next step
From: Lisa Hope

2a. Re: Adequate variety?
From: diannem200400
2b. Re: Adequate variety?
From: Giselle

3a. Re: Question - to fast or not to fast? what is the answer...
From: Laurie Swanson

4a. Re: Starved Stray Food Suggestions
From: woofwoofgrrl

5a. Re: Slippery Elm bark
From: Cdandp2@aol.com

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1a. Re: Question: 8 week old puppy (Sambuca) need advice on next step
Posted by: "Lisa Hope" GreyhopeWeis@hotmail.com greyhope_weimaraners
Date: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:03 am ((PDT))

>*** I would feed a puppy that young at least 3 times a day, or at
>least leave food available for a couple of hours at each twice daily
>feeding.
>

I only ever feed my pups twice a day, but make sure the pup has his/her fill
at those feed times, lots of variety and nothing too bony or at least add
meat as well.

Here's an example of my feeding regime for an 8 week old weimaraner pup :

Morning meal :

Chicken Back + meat (Beef, Turkey, lamb - chunks or minced), you can add
fish or an egg every other day.

Evening meal :

Chicken pieces 1/4s, 1/2s etc or Pork chest ribs or a piece of lamb breast
plus a chicken thigh etc.

I don't feed pups that much organ meat, basically whatever is left in the
chicken back or I might add a chicken heart or small piece of liver -
increasing organ meat at around 4 mths of age.

Lisa
Greyhope Weis - Aust
http://www.users.bigpond.com/greyhopeweis
GreyhopeWeis@bigpond.com

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2a. Re: Adequate variety?
Posted by: "diannem200400" diannem200400@yahoo.com diannem200400
Date: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:03 am ((PDT))

Thanks, Bill. They do get liver and occasionally beef kidney. And
fish oil every day. I'm still wondering if only 2 protein sources,
beef and pork, are enough to be nutritionally complete.

Dianne---
In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "carnesbill" <carnesw@...> wrote:

> Liver and other organs. For nutritional purposes, heart is not an
> organ but a muscle, as is tongue. Kidneys are probably the 2nd best
> organ.

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2b. Re: Adequate variety?
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:16 am ((PDT))

Hi, Dianne!
I don't breed, but a couple of suggestions of items I've found
at the supermarket for easy variety;
What about turkey? Rabbit? Fish? Even, maybe, canned?
Spleen? Chicken or duck feet?
Was the chicken enhanced or injected with a salt/flavor solution??
Maybe you could try some without.
TC
Giselle
with Bea in New Jersey

>
> My dogs have been raw fed for 2 months now and I LOVE it. The dogs
> think it's okay, too. But, the refrain "whole prey" keeps running
> through my head. I gather that it is important to feed as much of a
> whole animal, in terms of variety of parts, as possible.
<snip>
> seem like much variety to me. Also, I wonder if there is enough
> edible bone in this "menu plan." I will be breeding my girl pretty
> soon and want to be sure her nutrition is up to snuff. BTW, I gave
> up on chicken..one dog is allergic to poultry, one throws up EVERY
> time he eats it and will not reconsume it, and the other two don't
> like it but will eat it if they're really hungry. Didn't seem worth
> the pain.
>
> Do you long-time raw feeders consider this diet adequate over the
> long haul, especially for a bred bitch? If not, what would be most
> important to add? Thanks for any advice!
>
> Dianne M.
>

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3a. Re: Question - to fast or not to fast? what is the answer...
Posted by: "Laurie Swanson" laurie@mckinneyphoto.com las_lala
Date: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:04 am ((PDT))

Just an additional thought: They may not pass up easy/free food, but
since they're designed to hunt big game, and a hunt would take a lot of
energy and probably provide them with a big meal, they may not be
hungry enough to work hard for food again soon. They're not (nor is
any species, I believe) designed to not have to expend energy for food.

Laurie

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "carnesbill" <carnesw@...> wrote:

> I agree that probably in the wild that wolves or wild dogs will not
> eat avery day but I don't think it's by choice. I can't see a wild
> carnivore passing by food just because he ate yesterday. I think
> they eat as much as they can when they can find it.

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4a. Re: Starved Stray Food Suggestions
Posted by: "woofwoofgrrl" cmc4lists1@gastrounit.com woofwoofgrrl
Date: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:12 am ((PDT))

I was hoping you'd let us know how the kitty is doing....

Here's hoping the kitty is getting healthier by the day!

Christine

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5a. Re: Slippery Elm bark
Posted by: "Cdandp2@aol.com" Cdandp2@aol.com cdandp
Date: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:15 am ((PDT))

I mix two capfuls (or tsp of powder) into about a half cup water with a
little honey and bring it to boil until it's a syrupy consistency then dose 2
tsps of that syrup 2-3 times a day and it works like a dream (my dog is 25
lbs...dosing depends on weight). Hope this helps.
Carol & Spencer

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