[rawfeeding] Digest Number 11799

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: adding new meats to diet
From: Andrea
1b. Re: adding new meats to diet
From: Carol Santangelo
1c. Re: adding new meats to diet
From: carnesbill

2a. Re: And ONE more???
From: Brenda Grundt

3a. Charkee had a tooth pulled today..........need advice........
From: tottime47
3b. Re: Charkee had a tooth pulled today..........need advice........
From: costrowski75

4a. Re: Cheap meat sources, and an egg question
From: carnesbill

5a. Re: Really worried that my dog is losing weight
From: Shannon Parker

6a. Re: WHat are sme other organ options besides liver?
From: tottime47
6b. Re: WHat are sme other organ options besides liver?
From: Maria
6c. Re: WHat are sme other organ options besides liver?
From: Alison Maffett
6d. Re: WHat are sme other organ options besides liver?
From: geraldinebutterfield

7a. Cow heads?
From: Maria
7b. Re: Cow heads?
From: merril Woolf

8a. Re: feeding wild pork
From: carnesbill
8b. Re: feeding wild pork
From: Sandee Lee

9a. Re: Most valuable/least valuable meat?
From: carnesbill
9b. Re: Most valuable/least valuable meat?
From: costrowski75

10a. Freezer
From: Alison Maffett

11a. Re: After vomiting,started shaking head frequently..what is wrong wi
From: Bearhair

12a. Re: first time to Asian market now with questions
From: woofwoofgrrl
12b. Re: first time to Asian market now with questions
From: costrowski75

13a. Re: Can't get a solid poop! (was New puppy won't eat)
From: costrowski75

14a. Re: New puppy won't eat
From: pet.wellness

15a. Pork Neck Bones
From: cas22ccrn

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1a. Re: adding new meats to diet
Posted by: "Andrea" poketmouse45@yahoo.com poketmouse45
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:04 pm ((PDT))

Katie, the easiest way to transition is to add new meats to an already acceptable meat. The
loose stools probably don't bother the dogs, but if it bothers you, it's best to take it slow.

As for lamb shanks, my boys eat every bit of a lamb. The bones are quite edible for even
medium sized dogs. The only time I avoid lamb bones is if they have been cut into sharp
little chop sized pieces.

Andrea

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Katie" <kcrockett@...> wrote:

> my question - I have mostly been feeding cheicken. I gave beef one night, only to find
> lotd of runny pooped dogs the next day, so i backed up to chicken again.
> after several weeks, i'm wanting to add other meats. is it better to give a meal of
> another meat, or to offer a small amount of another meat WITH the chicken, so it's
> more gradula?

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1b. Re: adding new meats to diet
Posted by: "Carol Santangelo" carol.santangelo@gmail.com santangelo_carol
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:39 pm ((PDT))

So I can feed lamb shanks the way they sell it in the grocery store? Even
though it has been cut? As long as it's not lamb chops with the little
pieces of bone? I have a Bullmastiff puppy (almost 7 months old) who would
love to get his teeth into something like that.

Carol (Bruno and Zoe's mom)

As for lamb shanks, my boys eat every bit of a lamb. The bones are quite
> edible for even
> medium sized dogs. The only time I avoid lamb bones is if they have been
> cut into sharp
> little chop sized pieces.
>
> Andrea
>

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1c. Re: adding new meats to diet
Posted by: "carnesbill" carnesw@bellsouth.net carnesbill
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:41 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Katie" <kcrockett@...> wrote:
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> after several weeks, i'm wanting to add other meats. is it
> better to give a meal of another
> meat, or to offer a small amount of another meat WITH the
> chicken, so it's more gradula?

My method would be to feed turkey next and pork a week or so after
that. Both of those are not as "rich" as beef and a little easier on
the digestive system. The first time you feed beef, make it a little
smaller than normal meal.

Bill Carnes
http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm

Feeding Raw since October 2002

"Unnatural diets predispose animals to unnatural outcomes"
Dr. Tom Lonsdale

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2a. Re: And ONE more???
Posted by: "Brenda Grundt" grundt@xplornet.com scorch_st2001
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:13 pm ((PDT))

You can always feed in the bathtub and then rinse it out when done.
Brenda Grundt
Www.wawa-news.com

On 7/11/07 9:39 PM, "carnesbill" <carnesw@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>
>
>
>
> --- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com <mailto:rawfeeding%40yahoogroups.com> , Lyse
> Garant <lyse_garant@...> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Isn't she getting raw chicken all over herself?
>
> You are catching on fast. :) No your daughter won't be injured by
> chicken slobber. :) I have never known a child or adult get sick from
> a raw fed dog. Many feeders here have children and my grandchildren
> come over here so I assume it is no problem.
>
>> > If I put the piece on the floor, kitchen has no door,
>> > he'd immediately take it into the living room, so I'm going to
>> > feed him in his pen, or shut him up in the bathroom.
>
> You have a some choices here. Feeding in crate or bathroom or laundry
> room is each a viable choice. Training is another. If you stay right
> with the dog and the instant he leaves the kitchen you take the food
> away from him and put it back in the kitchen, very quickly he will
> learn where he is to eat. If you want him to eat on a table cloth,
> the instant he steps off the table cloth with the food, put him back
> on it. They learn very quickly.
>
> Bill Carnes
> http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm
>
> Feeding Raw since October 2002
>
> "Unnatural diets predispose animals to unnatural outcomes"
> Dr. Tom Lonsdale
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>

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3a. Charkee had a tooth pulled today..........need advice........
Posted by: "tottime47" tottime@aol.com tottime47
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:40 pm ((PDT))

Ok had to have a tooth pulled today, molar in the back...

Noticed for the last month he wouldn't chew bone on
the right side and suspected something was going on.

Sure enough bad tooth, the vet said there was also infection.

Had the tooth pulled around 10 am &
picked him up from the vets about 2 pm and at 3 he went outside and
did his normal stool & pee..........

After he came in started low whinning, almost constant.....at first I
couldn't figure out if it was pain or hunger as he doesn't normally
whine.

Finally figures out it was because he wanted to eat but the vet said
only ice chips today as he didn't want him to start vomiting.

About 7:30 I couldn't take it anymore and gave him about 3/4 oz of
finely ground chicken / with some slippery elm sprinkled on it, hey,
I had to do something.....

He seemed half-way satisfied but did a little more whinning and I
finally said no more so he went to sleep, lol. Sleeping now.....

If he keeps this down would it be ok to give him more later tonight
or in the morning?
I know if he doesn't eat more tonight he's going to wake up chewing
on my leg till fed........
Have I already done something wrong?

The vet said not to feed till tomorrow afternoon...

Thanks for any advice you gals and guys, I really appreciate it...

I think I'm in more shock than he is, lol

Carol & Charkee the pig 'er' peke

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3b. Re: Charkee had a tooth pulled today..........need advice........
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:04 pm ((PDT))

"tottime47" <tottime@...> wrote:
>> I had to do something.....
*****
No, you didn't. But clearly it's not the end of the world.

> He seemed half-way satisfied but did a little more whinning and I
> finally said no more so he went to sleep, lol. Sleeping now.....
>
> If he keeps this down would it be ok to give him more later
tonight
> or in the morning?
*****
I don't know why the vet wants you to wait so long (I would think
breakfast should be long enough) but if he does want you to wait
that long and you don't know why, then do what he says. Your pup
will survive. You will survive. Give him a big hug, a smooch, tell
him he's real champ...and then get on with your day.

Perhaps you might call the vet in the AM to ask why the long fast.
Chris O

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4a. Re: Cheap meat sources, and an egg question
Posted by: "carnesbill" carnesw@bellsouth.net carnesbill
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:40 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, Nathalie Poulin
<poulin_nathalie@...> wrote:
>
> What is this Freecylce group?
> I'm extremely intrigued..

Its a yahoo group with branches in many cities and different areas
around the country. It's like a craigslist for free things. People
advertise things they want to give away and others advertise for
things they want for free. I think the only rule is that you can't
charge or pay for things you get. I have gotten old meat and
freezer burned meat several times for free. I would guess maybe 100-
150 lbs total.

According to freecycle.org there are 4083 groups with 3,700,759
members. Items exchanged are usually furniture, clothing, childrens
toys and clothes, cds, dvds, vhs movies, etc.

Bill Carnes
http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm

Feeding Raw since October 2002

"Unnatural diets predispose animals to unnatural outcomes"
Dr. Tom Lonsdale

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5a. Re: Really worried that my dog is losing weight
Posted by: "Shannon Parker" mrbatisse@yahoo.ca mrbatisse
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:41 pm ((PDT))

Hi Eve,

Try searing the meat for a couple of minutes, just to get some flavour on the outside. The bone and meat won't cook, so he'll get all he needs to out of the meat and the bones won't get brittle. Some dogs just need a little flavour before they get into it.

Shannon

Eve <loulou_bean@yahoo.com> wrote:
He just walked away from the chicken and went into his
little crate and mushed his around around and
scratched at it and growled a little. He ate some, but
defintely did not consume even close to how much he
needs for his weight. He's 17 pounds. Is he telling me
he's done by walking away? He hardly ate anything.

And, he hasn't pooped in 3 days.

Can someone please help?

Thanks,
Eve

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6a. Re: WHat are sme other organ options besides liver?
Posted by: "tottime47" tottime@aol.com tottime47
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:41 pm ((PDT))

Hi Kae,
What kind of liver have you tried so far?

Mine hates chicken livers from wallyworld but loves beef liver frozen
from the butcher shop. He also loves rabbit liver, lol. I think he'd
eat rabbit organs exclusively if I'd feed them....

Just remember if they don't like one kind of liver try different ones
and also try serving it different ways, frozen or puree and put over
their meat..........

Carol & Charkee (the rabbit offal lover)

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "kaebruney" <kaebruney@...> wrote:
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> Oka, my boys hat eliver.
> I mean HATE it.

> Kae
>

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6b. Re: WHat are sme other organ options besides liver?
Posted by: "Maria" plava_93@yahoo.com plava_93
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:41 pm ((PDT))

Have you tried feeding it frozen solid?
Have you tried to puree it then mix in it with ground beef? I have to
give my dog's "liver slop cubes" because one of my dogs dosen't like
the texture of organs. I grind up equal parts meat and organ (plus
egg shells if you please) then after mixing I freeze in ice cube trys
then give it to the dogs. If this works for you you could even make
organ slop stuffed chitterling sausages.

HTH!
Maria

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "kaebruney" <kaebruney@...> wrote:
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> Oka, my boys hat eliver.
> I mean HATE it.
> So.. what does one feed two dogs who refuse their organ meat?
> HELP!...
>
> Kae
>

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6c. Re: WHat are sme other organ options besides liver?
Posted by: "Alison Maffett" sweettuth23@yahoo.com sweettuth23
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:01 pm ((PDT))

By giving them the option of eating liver or meat your making a mistake. What you need to do is offer the liver then if they don't eat it they don't get dinner that night or any treats until the next night and you keep offering that liver until they eat it. Most dogs don't like liver I have a dog that still hates it tonight I had to cover it with BBQ sauce and pieces of lunch meat to get her to eat it, she has gone 2-3 nights without because she would not eat her liver but eventually they will eat it. Even if you get another type of organ meat they might not eat that either, so your best bet is not feeding them until they eat their organ meat. Alison

----- Original Message ----
From: kaebruney <kaebruney@yahoo.com>

When I feed it as is, they will eat all their other food first and

leave me little liver strips on the food mats.

So.. what does one feed two dogs who refuse their organ meat?

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6d. Re: WHat are sme other organ options besides liver?
Posted by: "geraldinebutterfield" gbutterflied@comcast.net geraldinebutterfield
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:10 pm ((PDT))

Question - if a dog is on a raw diet, and doing well, but does not
like liver, any kind --- even though its good for them, but they HATE
IT, should we make them eat it? This must sound stupid... but ... do
wild dogs always eat liver, do they hate it too?
thanks,
geraldine

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, Alison Maffett <sweettuth23@...>
wrote:
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> By giving them the option of eating liver or meat your making a
mistake. What you need to do is offer the liver then if they don't eat
it they don't get dinner that night or any treats until the next night
and you keep offering that liver until they eat it. Most dogs don't
like liver

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7a. Cow heads?
Posted by: "Maria" plava_93@yahoo.com plava_93
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:42 pm ((PDT))

I'm going to be getting two cow heads during to winter and I need to
know if the sculls can be eaten or if I just need to take the noses,
cheeks, tounges, eyes and brains.

If it makes any differince my dogs treat beef ribs like wreck bones,
but thats the only beef bones I've tried.

Thanks
Maria

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7b. Re: Cow heads?
Posted by: "merril Woolf" merril@kentfieldwhippets.com whippetsrus2002
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:12 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Maria" <plava_93@...> wrote:
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> I'm going to be getting two cow heads during to winter and I need to
> know if the sculls can be eaten or if I just need to take the noses,
> cheeks, tounges, eyes and brains.
>
> If it makes any differince my dogs treat beef ribs like wreck bones,
> but thats the only beef bones I've tried.
>
> Thanks
> Maria
>

My dogs routinely get heads of all kinds including cow heads.
I don't take anything off it and let them eat it how they choose.
By time they are done, it's just a mandible and scull - kinda like the ones you see nailed to
the shed door or laying on the ground in the drought ridden outback...

As an aside, years ago during the summer I had some friends over and the guys went into
the rec room to play some pool. The rec room just happened to overlook the back yard
and while playing pool, the guys happened to look out the window into the back yard and
just about die when they saw one of my little dogs all the way in to the scull of a recent
cow we'd butchered. All that was sticking out was her butt. The guys still haven't
forgotten that day.

Merril

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8a. Re: feeding wild pork
Posted by: "carnesbill" carnesw@bellsouth.net carnesbill
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:42 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "scarebetty" <scarebetty@...> wrote:
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> I was wondering if there is any problem with feeding wild hogs.

Feed'em ... they are pigs. :) :) :)

Bill Carnes
http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm

Feeding Raw since October 2002

"Unnatural diets predispose animals to unnatural outcomes"
Dr. Tom Lonsdale

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8b. Re: feeding wild pork
Posted by: "Sandee Lee" rlee@plix.com mariasmom2001
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:56 pm ((PDT))

Hi Betty,

Great stuff, but wild hog should be frozen before feeding in order to kill
any possible parasites.

Sandee & the Dane Gang

From: "scarebetty" <scarebetty@yahoo.com>

I was wondering if there is any problem with feeding wild hogs. I
have friends who do a lot of hunting of wild hogs and thought that it
might be a good source of meat, but wanted to check and see if it
would be ok to feed.

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9a. Re: Most valuable/least valuable meat?
Posted by: "carnesbill" carnesw@bellsouth.net carnesbill
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:59 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Kristen"
<kristengilkinsonrmt@...> wrote:

> In all the research I've done I've heard, from select people,
> a variety
> of meats should be avoided (turkey, pork, etc), but I have
> never been
> given a reason why this is so.

> What meats offer the most valuable nutritional benefit and
> Which meats they believe should be avoided (if any)...and WHY!

Both pork and turkey are fine to feed. The reason that you hear
that turkey shouldn't be fed is because of some chemical it is
supposed to have in it that makes the eater lethargic. You will
hear the pork should be fed because of a parasite called trichinosis
(sp). Both of these are balony. Feed both meats and don't worry
about them. I feed both regularly.

IMO the more red a meat is, the more nutrtious. I don't have
anything to base that on except my own feelings. (Red has to do
with the amount of blood in the meat.)

Meats to avoid: Some people won't feed the meat of a carnivore. I
don't know if there is validity to that or not.

Bill Carnes
http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm

Feeding Raw since October 2002

"Unnatural diets predispose animals to unnatural outcomes"
Dr. Tom Lonsdale

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9b. Re: Most valuable/least valuable meat?
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:56 pm ((PDT))

"Kristen" <kristengilkinsonrmt@...> wrote:
> In all the research I've done I've heard, from select people, a
variety
> of meats should be avoided (turkey, pork, etc), but I have never
been
> given a reason why this is so.
*****
That cause the reasons they be blowing smoke.

Turkey is high quality protein that offers variety to the raw
feeder. Most people connect turkey with being sleepy after big
holiday meals, and blame it on L-Tryptophan as if turkey alone
provides it. Not.

Tryptophan is an essential amino acid which menas our bodies (and
one would conclude dogs' bodies) do not make, and is a precursor to
serotonin which makes you sleepy. Sources or tryptophan (that would
be relevant to our purposes) include other poultry, dairy, beef and
fish as well as turkey. So there's nothing special about turkey and
sleepiness except that twice a year in many homes across the US and
maybe Canada people make gosh darn pigs of themselves on, well,
turkey.

Commercial pork in the US, Canada, Australia and some EU countries
has been healthy and virtually free of trich and other parasites for
at least 20 years. In fact, Australia never has had problems with
parasitic pork. Used to be is not what now is. Commercial pork
producers have cleaned up their act, period. If you are considering
buyin a pig from the farmer down the street make he keeps the joint
clean and feeds properly. From the supermarket, pork is fine.

Be interesting to know what the etc's are.

> What meats offer the most valuable nutritional benefit
*****
The meat that your dog likes, eats and digests well and thrives on.

and
> Which meats they believe should be avoided (if any)...and WHY!
*****
The meats that cost a freakin' arm and leg but are totally rejected
by the dog. Meats that are ground and blended. Why is obvious.
Chris O

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10a. Freezer
Posted by: "Alison Maffett" sweettuth23@yahoo.com sweettuth23
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:02 pm ((PDT))

Hello, I have been feeding raw for a year now and just bought a freezer! I am very excited to have a freezer now and can't wait to start buying large amounts of food. When I buy meat from the store, should I just throw it in the freezer? Or should I rinse it off then put it in freezer bags then put it in the freezer? Thanks, Alison

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11a. Re: After vomiting,started shaking head frequently..what is wrong wi
Posted by: "Bearhair" bearhair@spamcop.net bearhair61
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:06 pm ((PDT))

Yassy wrote:

> It was real wiered because before vomiting,she was just plain normal. After vomiting,started shaking head.I see she is uncomfortable something.
> She shaked every minutes or so if not laying down or sleeping.
> Then, noticed she scratch one ear with hind leg a bit and shake. So, I looked at the ear.Only right ear was problem. I saw pimple like tiny swell and bit pinkier.
> And,ear was like right ear pointing side way while left ear is upright. . . .
> Well,today,the shaking seem to be dissapearing and pimple-like stuff got less pinkier.
> Does not look like bothering her as much as yesterday and she is happy dog. . . .
> However,she started right after vomiting was real wiered.Maybe coincidence? It started from 4pm yesterday..
> I thought about food allegy thing to Mutton but,I did not think that allegy thing would not appear right seconds one eats something. Do you think it was?

No, no allergy, and it wouldn't show up as just one local spot like that.

Could it be that maybe she was bothered by it earlier, but you didn't notice
it until you were REALLY paying attention to her after she vomited?

Keep watching her ears to see whether the bump improves or gets worse, but as
long as she's a happy dog, she sounds like she survived her introduction to
marrow.

Just another reason why dogs should NOT use chopsticks!

Lora

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12a. Re: first time to Asian market now with questions
Posted by: "woofwoofgrrl" cmc4lists1@gastrounit.com woofwoofgrrl
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:07 pm ((PDT))

This reminded me that I wanted to ask about pick stomach - my grocery
store had some that was labed as NOT scalded - would this then be good
for raw feeding or still not worth it?
Christine

>> pig stomach
>
> This has been sanitized for human consumption. Not much use for raw
> feeding.
>

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12b. Re: first time to Asian market now with questions
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:08 pm ((PDT))

woofwoofgrrl <cmc4lists1@...> wrote:
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> This reminded me that I wanted to ask about pick stomach - my
grocery
> store had some that was labed as NOT scalded - would this then be
good
> for raw feeding or still not worth it?
*****
If it ain't green and stinky and totally socially unacceptable, it may
be edible but it's not valuable. I say pasadena.
Chris O

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13a. Re: Can't get a solid poop! (was New puppy won't eat)
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:26 pm ((PDT))

Brad and Pam Barnes <miningcamp_labs@...> wrote:
I'm glad I didn't run out and buy
> more pills we didn't need!
*****
Well you discover you need them, you'll know where to find them.

What are your thoughts
> on supplementing with Glusocamine, Chondroitin and MSM
> for arthritis associated with dysplasia when feeding a
> raw diet?
*****
My thoughts are that you should feed plenty of naturally occurring
glucosamine/chondroitin and supplement with pills and powders if
naturally occurring is not enough.

What is naturally occurring? Oh, every body part that contains a
cartilage in a moveable joint and sometimes not in a moveable joint,
like chicken breast bone plus all trachea and gullet.

I take gl/ch and MSM myself, but I don't eat that much (like none)
naturally occurring cartilage.

To the list of useful supplements add fish body oil (varietal or one
species) for not only the anti-inflammatory benefits but also immune
system support. Actually, anti-inflammatory and immune system
support are benefits of the same process.
Chris O

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14a. Re: New puppy won't eat
Posted by: "pet.wellness" pet.wellness@yahoo.com pet.wellness
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:09 pm ((PDT))

I can't advise you about the raw food; I can say that a 7 week old
puppy is just a baby. In fact, when I brought Matisse home, I was
shocked how much a baby a 7 week old puppy is. He's way out of his
comfort zone, away from his mother and litter mates. He probably
wouldn't eat at once even if you fed something that was familiar. Lots
of adjustments. Just go slow. Hunger and instinct will kick in.

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "rottinluvr" <rottinluv@...> wrote:
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> Hi everyone,
>
> I brought home my new puppy today. A 7 week old Rottweiler. I figured
> Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated!
>
> Leanne & Casino
>

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15a. Pork Neck Bones
Posted by: "cas22ccrn" cas22ccrn@yahoo.com cas22ccrn
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:09 pm ((PDT))

I have been feeding my two greyhounds raw for a little over a month,
RMB of chicken, muscle meat, turkey, some organ meats and they both
have been doing great. I want to try some pork neck bones that I had
read was one of the RMB you can give. Found some for what I think was a
cheap price. Question to all, the bones seem to be very hard, much
harder than the chicken. Are these ok to feed, I was concerned that
they are to hard for the dogs to chew up. I haven't fed any yet, wanted
to get feed back from the more experienced raw feeders, and how their
dog did with these. Thanks for any information.
Cindy

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