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Thursday, July 12, 2007

[rawfeeding] Digest Number 11798

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Little dogs
From: Garnaas, Carolyn (MED US)

2a. thank you emily re cat will only eat pork. period :(
From: alliecaracleo

3a. Re: After vomiting,started shaking head frequently..what is wrong wi
From: Yasuko herron

4a. Re: first time to Asian market now with questions
From: Daisy Foxworth

5a. Re: Spoiled meat
From: nwohiopma

6a. Re: animal head
From: Yasuko herron

7a. my mom=raw feeder!
From: sillypoodle2003
7b. Re: my mom=raw feeder!
From: Yuliya Brown
7c. Re: my mom=raw feeder!
From: pet.wellness
7d. Re: my mom=raw feeder!
From: deep_ocean_of_sorrow

8a. Re: Cheap meat sources, and an egg question
From: Nathalie Poulin

9. feeding wild pork
From: scarebetty

10a. Re: more victories for Raw
From: Sandee Lee

11a. Re: Starved Stray Food Suggestions
From: Sandee Lee

12a. adding new meats to diet
From: Katie
12b. Re: adding new meats to diet
From: seaneboyee

13a. Re: Can't get a solid poop! (was New puppy won't eat)
From: Brad and Pam Barnes

14a. Really worried that my dog is losing weight
From: Eve
14b. Re: Really worried that my dog is losing weight
From: Lyse Garant
14c. Re: Really worried that my dog is losing weight
From: Andrea
14d. Re: Really worried that my dog is losing weight
From: seaneboyee

15a. Most valuable/least valuable meat?
From: Kristen
15b. Re: Most valuable/least valuable meat?
From: seaneboyee
15c. Re: Most valuable/least valuable meat?
From: Andrea

16. WHat are sme other organ options besides liver?
From: kaebruney


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1. Re: Little dogs
Posted by: "Garnaas, Carolyn (MED US)" carolyn.garnaas@siemens.com carolyn.garnaas
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:05 am ((PDT))


I feed my five-pound Toy Poodle venison (when I am energetic enough to
find it), lamb, pork, including pork ribs, beef, and all the birdies;
quail, game hen, chicken, turkey, duck, and ostrich. She tears the meat
off the bone for her boneless meals, but after nearly four years of
rawfeeding, the only bones she completely consumes are chicken bones.
Have tried giving her rabbit, as those are nice soft bones, but she will
have none of it. She nibbles at the ends of the pork ribs, but won't
consume one.

Carolyn J. Garnaas

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2a. thank you emily re cat will only eat pork. period :(
Posted by: "alliecaracleo" alliecaracleo@yahoo.com alliecaracleo
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:08 am ((PDT))

Thank you for your response. Agree 100% EXCEPT for the 24 hr thing
and felines not eating. This is where the prob comes in when i must
feed her something she will consume. Mine have then gone on to
vomiting due to not eating for 24 hrs.


Ciao everyone
Denise
> >
> > I love my ribs too but Allie will only eat country style ribs. I
> gave
> > for a few meals, then switch to chicken or turkey heart or
gizzard
> and
> > she went on fast. I dont have any beef which she has never had
and
> > wanted to use what is in freezer. I will buy some fish. Question
> is how
> > often is pork ok to eat? I understand variety concept for balance
> but
> > she loves her pork. Is it unhealthy for felines to consume pork
> > regularly?
> >
> > Have a good one everyone
> > Denise
> >
> I don't see a problem with a pork based diet, in general, as long
as
> there is a valid reason for one. And, IMO, pickiness is not a
valid
> reason. I think you have a behavioral issue on your hands, which I
> would handle using tough love. I know things can be different with
> cats (I only have dogs), but I'd make pork go away for a while.
I'd
> get this kitty back to eating what you feed. Once she's back to
> eating chicken and turkey without objection, then offer the pork
> again. The key is that you're in charge of what's on the menu- not
> her.
>
> Emily
>


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3a. Re: After vomiting,started shaking head frequently..what is wrong wi
Posted by: "Yasuko herron" sunshine_annamaria@yahoo.com sunshine_annamaria
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:40 am ((PDT))

Hi,Lora.

>I agree with you that the richness of the marrow is a good guess as to why it
>came up.

Thank you for answering to my posts again:-P It is always helpful and I am very appreciated.
I take journal for my palette's diet,and noticed that this week is week 9 after started raw feeding! Already passed 2 months! So fast!

Yes, I think from next time,I will just give her tiny bit of marrow if she wanted to get to it.
I learnt one thing here:-P Not too much marrow to give if I wanted to avoid vomiting:-P

> I have no idea what the head shaking might be about.

It was real wiered because before vomiting,she was just plain normal. After vomiting,started shaking head.I see she is uncomfortable something.

She shaked every minutes or so if not laying down or sleeping.

Then, noticed she scratch one ear with hind leg a bit and shake. So, I looked at the ear.Only right ear was problem. I saw pimple like tiny swell and bit pinkier.
And,ear was like right ear pointing side way while left ear is upright.

When my husband came home,he looked at it and offered if the swell got worse or more reddish,he would take off and visit vet.

Well,today,the shaking seem to be dissapearing and pimple-like stuff got less pinkier.
Does not look like bothering her as much as yesterday and she is happy dog.

So, we did not go to vet.

Husband said maybe mosquito bites or something. We do not find flea or tick with her anywhere when flea combing so,maybe insect bit her. I will keep an eye on her and see if it gets worse or not.Since she looks ok today so,probably not.

However,she started right after vomiting was real wiered.Maybe coincidence? It started from 4pm yesterday..

I thought about food allegy thing to Mutton but,I did not think that allegy thing would not appear right seconds one eats something. Do you think it was?

I myself is not allegy to anything and she has never been told she has allegy to anything so,I have no idea how fast the symptom like scratching/lash appears.

Thank you

yassy


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4a. Re: first time to Asian market now with questions
Posted by: "Daisy Foxworth" daisyfoxworth@yahoo.com daisyfoxworth
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:42 am ((PDT))

Joanne, you just inspired me to check out the Asian market a couple
blocks from where I work. (Lovely day for a field trip!) As far as
organs, I had only been able to find chicken liver locally so I'm
starting to hunt out ethnic markets.

Lots of meat labelled "meat", if labelled at all, LOL. Lots of stuff
that if I weren't buying it to feed raw I would have no idea how to
cook! Scored on pork kidney. Anyone know about duck tongue?

Daisy

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5a. Re: Spoiled meat
Posted by: "nwohiopma" nwohiopma@yahoo.com nwohiopma
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:42 pm ((PDT))

Thanks, Bill and Penny. I'll tell her to start over with just chicken
and to watch his poop.

Candace and the 4 Collies for Heather and Minx

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6a. Re: animal head
Posted by: "Yasuko herron" sunshine_annamaria@yahoo.com sunshine_annamaria
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:09 pm ((PDT))

>link takes you to an intro page, not one with photos of veal head with dog!
http://www.rawdogranch.com/ourfavorites.htm

Hi,I found this from old thread. It is bit gross but, dog eats just meat or can eat some bones or eyeballs etc?

Anyone has fed animal head?

I was just curious.

yassy


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7a. my mom=raw feeder!
Posted by: "sillypoodle2003" angels_mom73@hotmail.com sillypoodle2003
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:06 pm ((PDT))

my mom, dyed-in-the-wool box thinker, has FINALLY switched to raw
(sort of). she has been totally against raw from the start. but i have
been sending her links and articles ect over the past year i have fed
my dog raw. i think she almost gets it. but, she is stuck on the pre
ground mixes. dont know if its because its "commercial" so it must be
good or what. but, any raw is better than kibble, right? anyway, she
wants to feed that plus raw chicken legs/thighs and/or quarters all
the time. yes or no? i did tell her the dog needs ogans meats for
vitamins ect. getting her to ditch the kibble is a huge step, mind
you. the dog is a 9 y/o schipperke with a checkered past. 5 homes by 6
months of age, over vaxed, ect. behavioral problems out the wazoo.
after losing 3 other schips at young ages (3, 10, and 13 y/o) i think
she is finally coming round. but, anyways, do yall think feeding
chicken along with the pre ground stuff all the time will be ok? or
should i try harder to get her to swing all the way to the right way?

tia again everyone,
kelly and zeke, the wonder poodle

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7b. Re: my mom=raw feeder!
Posted by: "Yuliya Brown" yuliya_brown@yahoo.com yuliya_brown
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:42 pm ((PDT))

well, I'd suggest buying ground stuff that made of
beef, because it will have some organs added, so it
will be ground, but it still will be there. I wasn't
looking much into ground stuff, but maybe you can
point her to the brands that have organs in it. And I
think that as long as she will balance between chicken
and it , it would be ok. The dog might still require
the regular teeth cleaning as it might not get enought
work for the gums and teeth.
Yuliya
> do yall
> think feeding
> chicken along with the pre ground stuff all the time
> will be ok? or
> should i try harder to get her to swing all the way
> to the right way?
>
> tia again everyone,
> kelly and zeke, the wonder poodle
>
>


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7c. Re: my mom=raw feeder!
Posted by: "pet.wellness" pet.wellness@yahoo.com pet.wellness
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:04 pm ((PDT))

I think you should treat her just like you would a good dog: reward
the progress she is making with praise, ignore the bad stuff and keep
providing calm, assertive leadership until she choose to swing all the
way. :-)) Pamela

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "sillypoodle2003"
<angels_mom73@...> wrote:
>
> she is finally coming round. but, anyways, do yall think feeding
> chicken along with the pre ground stuff all the time will be ok? or
> should i try harder to get her to swing all the way to the right way?
>
> tia again everyone,
> kelly and zeke, the wonder poodle
>


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7d. Re: my mom=raw feeder!
Posted by: "deep_ocean_of_sorrow" deep_ocean_of_sorrow@yahoo.com deep_ocean_of_sorrow
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:04 pm ((PDT))


Although I am new to this raw feeding, I highly suggest you talking your
mother more about switching fully into raw meat. I read somewhere that
if you're in the middle of he road or you don't fully change into raw
meat or kibbles, it can upset the stomach or something cause kibbles are
digested slower.

maybe you should give her links about what actually is in kibbles? (like
the grains and dog collars and whatnot. . . theres TONS online if you
search it. )

I had to convince my mom that raw feeding is OK for dogs. She and my dad
kept saying, "raw foods are hazardous. He might DIE " well, hazardous to
maybe humans cause we've cooked meat for thousands of years, but dogs...
not so much. anyways,

good luck,

Kate


--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "sillypoodle2003" <angels_mom73@...>
wrote:
>
> my mom, dyed-in-the-wool box thinker, has FINALLY switched to raw
> (sort of). she has been totally against raw from the start. but i have
> been sending her links and articles ect over the past year i have fed
> my dog raw. i think she almost gets it. but, she is stuck on the pre
> ground mixes. dont know if its because its "commercial" so it must be
> good or what. but, any raw is better than kibble, right? anyway, she
> wants to feed that plus raw chicken legs/thighs and/or quarters all
> the time. yes or no? i did tell her the dog needs ogans meats for
> vitamins ect. getting her to ditch the kibble is a huge step, mind
> you. the dog is a 9 y/o schipperke with a checkered past. 5 homes by 6
> months of age, over vaxed, ect. behavioral problems out the wazoo.
> after losing 3 other schips at young ages (3, 10, and 13 y/o) i think
> she is finally coming round. but, anyways, do yall think feeding
> chicken along with the pre ground stuff all the time will be ok? or
> should i try harder to get her to swing all the way to the right way?
>
> tia again everyone,
> kelly and zeke, the wonder poodle
>


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8a. Re: Cheap meat sources, and an egg question
Posted by: "Nathalie Poulin" poulin_nathalie@yahoo.ca poulin_nathalie
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:42 pm ((PDT))

What is this Freecylce group?
I'm extremely intrigued..

Nathalie

--- chele519 <chele519@yahoo.com> wrote:

> This would be my suggestion too. I just got 2
> turkeys, some roasts,
> some ground beef. For my smaller dog, enough for a
> couple months with
> the turkeys. Good luck, I hope it works out for you.
>
> Michele
>
> --- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com,
> Hllywoodcaper7@... wrote:
>
> > Do you have a local freecycle group? >
> > Freecycle (yahoo group) in your area may have
> people who would give
> you old
> > and freezer burned meat too. HTH! Tamatha ;)
> >

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9. feeding wild pork
Posted by: "scarebetty" scarebetty@yahoo.com scarebetty
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:42 pm ((PDT))

I was wondering if there is any problem with feeding wild hogs. I
have friends who do a lot of hunting of wild hogs and thought that it
might be a good source of meat, but wanted to check and see if it
would be ok to feed.
Thanks,
Betty

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10a. Re: more victories for Raw
Posted by: "Sandee Lee" rlee@plix.com mariasmom2001
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:01 pm ((PDT))

Cindy,

There is some good info in these two messages (and lots more in the
archives).....

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding/message/135757
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding/message/135847

Sandee & the Dane Gang

From: "cinjoel" <cinjoel@yahoo.com>

Now I need to ask some questions...I have a great dane but my newest
recruits have shih tzu pups. What do you recommend they introduce
1st, 2nd, sand so on? So far the mom and her 3 babies have been
eating Oma's beef 'mush' (ground beef & organs) and chicken breast,
beef cubes and some cooked chicken or whatever human mommy and daddy
are having for dinner.

I know they need to start adding some bone...what do you think about
chicken necks? any suggestions? The pups are 8 weeks old now.

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11a. Re: Starved Stray Food Suggestions
Posted by: "Sandee Lee" rlee@plix.com mariasmom2001
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:07 pm ((PDT))

Ashley,

The very best you can do for the health and missed nutrition for this pup is
feed an appropriate diet..and that of course is raw. Cooked food is not
easier to digest or better for her. Start with something easily digestible
such as bone-in chicken breasts, feed several small meals a day, and don't
worry about supplements (especially calcium). Just feed her good food with
a little bone.

And do NOT vaccinate or worm this little girl right now. The rabies was
already a huge assault on her immune system...don't add to it.

Sandee & the Dane Gang

From: "Ash" <want4rain@yahoo.com>


we had a little 9mo old + tortie show up on our back porch two nights
ago. we took her to the vet yesterday morning. she was not micro
chipped, we gave her a rabies shot and had her weighed. we dont have
the money to get her vaccinations taken care of nor get her wormed but
we are in contact with a local rescue who is (i assume) willing to pay
for those things if we foster her for them. cool deal to us, hopefully
we can do most of that stuff tomorrow.

well, she weighs 3lbs and just a few ounces when she should weigh at
least 8lbs at her skinniest. ive been feeding her cooked salmon,
oyster, calcium and cooked whole egg with the salmon being most of it,
a single oyster, a bit of crushed up calcium pill and a table spoon of
egg mix. yesterday we started with a single tbs to see if she could
hold it down, through out the day i think i gave her a total of 9(??)
table spoons of this and it all went down fantastic, she pooped well
this morning, peed 4 times... im watering it down well too.

does any one have any suggestions of something to help her gain weight
and yet still provide the missing nutrition? we plan on picking up a
nutritional supplement today from the vet. while we are big advocates
of raw and feed our pets raw, we do not feel comfortable feeding her
raw right now because of her health but i am willing to find a happy
middle ground by cooking some of the stuff we feed her.


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12a. adding new meats to diet
Posted by: "Katie" kcrockett@mac.com kcrockettla7
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:10 pm ((PDT))

I've been feeding my dogs a raw diet for a few weeks. I started with the commercial "nature's
variety" but have moved to cuts of meat.

i have 4 dogs of my own - 2 goldens, a bc/aussie/?? mix, and a 13 year old schipperke (who,
incidentally, is darling as she tears up 1/2 of a cornish game hen!). I also have a 10 month
old schip that I am fostering, and often a foster golden or two (although not at the moment)

my question - I have mostly been feeding cheicken. I gave beef one night, only to find lotd
of runny pooped dogs the next day, so i backed up to chicken again.
after several weeks, i'm wanting to add other meats. is it better to give a meal of another
meat, or to offer a small amount of another meat WITH the chicken, so it's more gradula?

thanks.

katie

(btw - i think i read the answer on this already, but to double check . . . are lamb shanks NOT
ok becuase the bones are too hard, being weight bearing? i read in one post that it's only
LARGE animals that you can' give weight bearing bones from, but another said lamb shanks
are not ok.)

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12b. Re: adding new meats to diet
Posted by: "seaneboyee" seaneboyee@yahoo.com seaneboyee
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:35 pm ((PDT))

While my dog didn't experience runny stools when adding new meats, I
did follow the general rule that is suggested when I did feed k****e
and that was to stick with 75% of the first meat and 25% of the new. I
did that until I was feeding the new source for the whole week or two
then added a new one.

Good luck!
Sean

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13a. Re: Can't get a solid poop! (was New puppy won't eat)
Posted by: "Brad and Pam Barnes" miningcamp_labs@yahoo.com miningcamp_labs
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:58 pm ((PDT))

Thanks, Chris O. I'm glad I didn't run out and buy
more pills we didn't need! I do have a friend who
breeds labs and uses these supplements all the time.
Of course, she feeds K#$*ble. What are your thoughts
on supplementing with Glusocamine, Chondroitin and MSM
for arthritis associated with dysplasia when feeding a
raw diet? Pam - Mining CAmp Labs



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14a. Really worried that my dog is losing weight
Posted by: "Eve" loulou_bean@yahoo.com loulou_bean
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:03 pm ((PDT))

Ok, so it's his 4th day on the raw diet--been giving
him chicken quarters. Before this hia diet consnisted
of ground beef/grain mixture, which I know wasn't
correct.

I took people's advice and took the chicken up after
10-15 minutes when not much was happening. But the
bottom line is..he's not getting enough food. He's had
the quarter chicken tonight for a good 40 minutes
already. It seems he's getting sidetracked with the
stringy pieces and whatever skin was left on, but not
really tearing into the meat.

I know that his ribs feel different--definitely feels
skinnier and I am worried. I am close to just giving
him his old diet back just so he can get something
more in his system.

Or even just cutting the chicken up and putting it in
his bowl.

Any other meat types or ideas where maybe he'll eat
better/more? I think he gets the process of chewing
off the meat because I saw him do it, but he's not
really going for it.

He just walked away from the chicken and went into his
little crate and mushed his around around and
scratched at it and growled a little. He ate some, but
defintely did not consume even close to how much he
needs for his weight. He's 17 pounds. Is he telling me
he's done by walking away? He hardly ate anything.

And, he hasn't pooped in 3 days.

Can someone please help?

Thanks,
Eve


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14b. Re: Really worried that my dog is losing weight
Posted by: "Lyse Garant" lyse_garant@yahoo.com lyse_garant
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:10 pm ((PDT))

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I am no expert Eve, but I bet he'll start eating more within a couple of days, and I completely sympathize with you, Guinness is always prowling and looking hungry, but I know he's had enough to eat, [due to exact volume consumed] and he hasn't dooted in a day and a half either...but I know he's ok, he is playful and extremely happy, though I admit, he's slowed down a bit. I expect it's because he's still getting rid of the bad stuff left in his system.
Lyse & G& N

Eve <loulou_bean@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ok, so it's his 4th day on the raw diet--been giving

And, he hasn't pooped in 3 days.

Can someone please help?

Thanks,
Eve

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14c. Re: Really worried that my dog is losing weight
Posted by: "Andrea" poketmouse45@yahoo.com poketmouse45
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:33 pm ((PDT))

Eve, how is your dog's energy? Is it getting hot where you live? After four days I wouldn't
worry too much, at least he's eating. Some dogs will just flat refuse to eat for that long
before they realize they can't dictate what gets fed. If he weighs 17lbs, that equates to
about 1/3lb every day(2%), which really isn't a lot.

It is also possible he had a little ki**le fat that is just going away. If he continues to lose
weight or he is becoming lethargic, you should try a beef roast or pork shoulder, see if he
is more interested in that. But for now, I'd stick it out with the chicken. Don't cut it up for
him or you'll be sewing the seeds of a picky eater.

Andrea

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, Eve <loulou_bean@...> wrote:

> I know that his ribs feel different--definitely feels
> skinnier and I am worried. I am close to just giving
> him his old diet back just so he can get something
> more in his system.
>
> Or even just cutting the chicken up and putting it in
> his bowl.
>
> Any other meat types or ideas where maybe he'll eat
> better/more? I think he gets the process of chewing
> off the meat because I saw him do it, but he's not
> really going for it.

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14d. Re: Really worried that my dog is losing weight
Posted by: "seaneboyee" seaneboyee@yahoo.com seaneboyee
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:33 pm ((PDT))

As many others will say, you need to offer tough love, continue picking
up the food if there is no activity after 15 minutes and serve it again
during the next meal. My JRT-mix who is very shy wasn't interested in
the food for a couple of days, he just licked the water off of it,
sniffed it, walked around it, laid down and just stared at it. No
treats in between, nothing. After a couple of days, he started
nibbling at it and slowly learned that this is what he is going to be
fed from now on. I wouldn't worry too much as long as he/she is
drinking water and urinating. The lack of poop is probably due to the
fact that he has no waste to let out. Hang in there, I know it's
difficult.

Best regards,
Sean

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15a. Most valuable/least valuable meat?
Posted by: "Kristen" kristengilkinsonrmt@rogers.com kgilkinson
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:12 pm ((PDT))

Hi,

In all the research I've done I've heard, from select people, a variety
of meats should be avoided (turkey, pork, etc), but I have never been
given a reason why this is so. I feed a variety of everything I can get
my hands on (turkey, pork, chicken, beef, buffalo, rabbit, fish, duck,
etc. etc.) and have a very healthy and happy dog to show for it.

Just to clarify, in case I just have a dog with a strong stomach, I'd
like to ask two questions:
What meats offer the most valuable nutritional benefit and
Which meats they believe should be avoided (if any)...and WHY!

Thanks!!
Kristen

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15b. Re: Most valuable/least valuable meat?
Posted by: "seaneboyee" seaneboyee@yahoo.com seaneboyee
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:33 pm ((PDT))

I am very new to raw feeding and have only been on it for about 3.5
weeks now and I haven't heard anything about meals to avoid. What I do
hear the most about when it comes to avoiding is heavy, weight-bearing
bones which can cause damage to your dog's tooth.

I reside in Hawaii where everything, especially groceries, is expensive
and I do feed whatever I can find and can afford.

Regards,
Sean

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15c. Re: Most valuable/least valuable meat?
Posted by: "Andrea" poketmouse45@yahoo.com poketmouse45
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:34 pm ((PDT))

I've never heard a legitimate reason not to feed certain meats. The only caveat I know of is
that wild game and fish should be frozen solid for a few weeks to kill any parasites that
might be there. You are right to dismiss all the fear mongering.

If I had to feed a diet consisting of only two animals I would have to choose from animals
that would close to a wolf's natural prey. Venison definitely, the other would be a toss up.
Maybe rabbit, maybe buffalo, maybe goat.

The only meats I avoid feeding on a regular basis are those from slow growing fishes that
are prone to having higher levels of toxins. I'll still feed tuna and the like, but only on
occasion. Other than that, I avoid non-prey type animals like coyote or cats.

Andrea

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Kristen" <kristengilkinsonrmt@...> wrote:

> Just to clarify, in case I just have a dog with a strong stomach, I'd
> like to ask two questions:
> What meats offer the most valuable nutritional benefit and
> Which meats they believe should be avoided (if any)...and WHY!

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16. WHat are sme other organ options besides liver?
Posted by: "kaebruney" kaebruney@yahoo.com kaebruney
Date: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:03 pm ((PDT))

Oka, my boys hat eliver.
I mean HATE it.

I've trtied baking it with garlic, frying it a little.. even mixing it
with egg and rice and still no go.

When I feed it as is, they will eat all their other food first and
leave me little liver strips on the food mats.


So.. what does one feed two dogs who refuse their organ meat?

One of my boys is shedding despite beig short hair and I'm convinced
it's because he's missing his EFA's and Omega 3's. :0(

HELP!...

Kae

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