[rawfeeding] Digest Number 12437

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: Introducing organs
From: Giselle
1b. Re: Introducing organs
From: costrowski75

2. Many Thanks from a newbie!
From: Deb

3a. Re: vets and samonella
From: johnsonkp200
3b. Re: vets and samonella
From: GWB

4.1. My dogs teeth on 3rd day of raw rib bones
From: Betty
4.2. Re: My dogs teeth on 3rd day of raw rib bones
From: Heather
4.3. Re: My dogs teeth on 3rd day of raw rib bones
From: Belinda van de Loo

5a. Does feeding raw repel fleas and ticks?
From: Kristina and Corey
5b. Re: Does feeding raw repel fleas and ticks?
From: ginny wilken
5c. Re: Does feeding raw repel fleas and ticks?
From: Morledzep@aol.com

6.1. Re: Hi everyone!
From: Betty
6.2. Re: Hi everyone!
From: Betty
6.3. Re: Hi everyone!
From: Betty
6.4. Re: Hi everyone!/teeth cleaning meals
From: Laurie Swanson
6.5. Re: Hi everyone!
From: carnesbill

7a. Re: Another newbie with questions!
From: carnesbill
7b. Re: Another newbie with questions!
From: noahsmom8497
7c. Re: Another newbie with questions!
From: Laura Atkinson
7d. Re: Another newbie with questions!
From: Sandee Lee
7e. Re: Another newbie with questions!
From: carnesbill

8.1. Re: liver
From: T Smith
8.2. Re: liver
From: Belinda van de Loo
8.3. Re: liver
From: Morledzep@aol.com

9a. Re: Pickey eating and Horking it back up, Silly story and questions
From: Casey Post

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1a. Re: Introducing organs
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:54 pm ((PST))

Hi, Wendy!
I usually only find beef and chicken liver in my local
stores, although occasionally I come up with a find of sweetbreads, too.
Then I stock up! I get kidney pretty regularly online. Spleen comes to
mind, although it is expensive in my area. And tripe, which I buy ground,
sigh, 'cause I can't find it affordably otherwise.

If you're feeding whole, ungutted fish, with the heads on, there's a full
complement of organs in each one. ; )
Whole prey, like rabbit, if you can find it, can be a great way of getting
variety in organs for your guys.

Other than what I've mentioned, lights (lungs) and brains come to mind.

BTW, heart and gizzards (the giblet 'package' that comes with whole chickens
usually has the heart, gizzard and liver in it) are organs, but fed as
meatymeat. So is tongue.

As for introduction, they don't need a lot; 3-5% liver and 5-7% 'other'
organs of their total intake, so a bit of this and a bit of that in with a
regular meal is fine. My girl is big, about 125 lbs, so when I get organs, I
often cut 'em up into chunks, mush 'em into those 2 oz Gladware
disposable/reusuable snack cups and stuff 'em into the freezer. Then I just
pop out a frozen glob of whatever onto dinner, whenever the mood strikes me.

TC
Giselle
with Bea in New Jersey

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>
> My question is, how do I go about introducing organs? I feel that
> Foxy is ready, and Sophie will be soon.
>

> <snip>
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> Other than that, I have beef
> liver, of course, heart, kidney, and today's find, beef sweetbreads.
> Should I introduce these items one at a time, as I did with the
> meats? Also, is this a decent variety of organs at this point? Are
> there any things that are extra good that I should look for?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Wendy
>
>

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1b. Re: Introducing organs
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:15 pm ((PST))

"mozookpr" <mozookpr@...> wrote:
> My question is, how do I go about introducing organs?
*****
In small doses, gradually.

Other than that, I have beef
> liver, of course, heart, kidney, and today's find, beef sweetbreads.
> Should I introduce these items one at a time, as I did with the
> meats?
Yes. I start introducing organs almost from the get-go, but always in
small, token amounts. Whenever it's time to start organs, they should
be a gradual learning experience for you and your dogs.

Also, is this a decent variety of organs at this point?
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It's plenty. Heart is fed as a muscle meat, as are gizzards. Liver,
kidney and sweetbreads are fine. You would not be a bad DogMom if you
did not feed beyond these options. Try others (eyeballs?) when they
become available but don't beat yourself up over real or imagined
shortfalls. Remember, when you are able to feed whole prey--including
whole fish--you are feeding every last organ, every time.
Chris O

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2. Many Thanks from a newbie!
Posted by: "Deb" wdlentz@hotmail.com sonbeam922
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:28 pm ((PST))

I wanted to take some time to give thanks to all who participate and
moderate this group!

I started feeding our 2 female boxer pups (17 weeks on Jan 2) and our
3 y.o. mini schnauzer/maltese raw four days ago.

I have been lurking and studying for about 2-3 weeks.

Would like to report that the gals have not missed the other food and
at the risk of sounding off my rocker, I would like to list some of
the changes I have noticed in four days! If I am crazy, you can let
me know! ;)

1. More peaceful...still loads of energy, just calmer but still
bouncy and fun!

2. They are resting better. The comment today lying around looking
pregnant is a great description!

3. Fur seems softer to me (and my boys).

4. Their bodies look fuller/sturdier...this may just be the age of
development they are in, but they just look healthier to me, not so
ribby.

Well, it seems like it would be too soon to really be able to tell
some of these things, but, I really did not know what I was looking
for. So, I can just report what we see!

Thanks again, and a million more times for all the participation and
moderation which has helped be me be a better fur mom and ultimately
a better mom to my sons!

Happy New Year!

Sincerely,

Deb

Basil, 3 y.o., Chicago, 16 weeks, Charlotte 16 weeks, Matthew and
Mark 10 and 6 years respectively!

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3a. Re: vets and samonella
Posted by: "johnsonkp200" sunfiretervs@comcast.net johnsonkp200
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:08 pm ((PST))

Regarding the sammonella study, it wouldn't matter if they did a study
on 10,000 dogs (instead of 20), would it? I laughed out loud when it
hit me.

Think of it - they are finding samonella in the samples of chicken fed
to the dogs, then finding samonella in some of the dogs' poop that were
fed that chicken. Well, since the chicken we feed is the same chicken
we feed ourselves..... what does that tell you?

It tells me that samonella might be found on the kitchen counters of
people who eat chicken, regardless of if they even own pets! So then,
what are they worried about, that chicken-fed dogs' poop is likely to
end up on the kitchen counter as well? Ha ha ha ha what a silly study!

Karen

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3b. Re: vets and samonella
Posted by: "GWB" chiksika@comcast.net kioqua
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:12 pm ((PST))

johnsonkp200 wrote:
> Think of it - they are finding samonella in the samples of chicken fed
> to the dogs, then finding samonella in some of the dogs' poop

Salmonella sp. are a normal gut resident so the idea that dogs present
with it in their stool samples is hardly a surprise and completely
misleading when shown in any "study".

Gerry Brierley
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Are there no prisons?? Are there no workhouses??-Ebenezer Scrooge

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4.1. My dogs teeth on 3rd day of raw rib bones
Posted by: "Betty" prismkitten@yahoo.com prismkitten
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:08 pm ((PST))

Hi Heather,

I've been feeding him a mixture or recipe type foods but contains more
than 50% meats in addition to it also some chicken bones but not often
enough. I bought beef rib bones (his first ones ever..I have a very
happy dog) and I started him on those with one per day after his usual
meal of now just meat, and some organ meat on occasion. He's on day 3
of that now, and already the tarter is falling away. I took a good
look at that back loose tooth on right side again tonight, and the
tarter or icky crud just came right out when I did a bit of cleaning
which surprised me. I took some before pics of his teeth, and I'll
take some after pics in a few weeks, etc. I can post a link in the
links section if anyone might be interested in looking at them. I also
put some Iodine mixed with water on that back tooth tonight with an
eye dropper. If say a tooth falls out, but not the root of the back
molar, do the regrow it or does it have to come out by dental work?
Also, do they ever tighten up on their own?

Prism

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Heather" <newbeginnings06@...> wrote:
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> From what I gathered, you are only feeding boneless meats and organs
> currently and feeding a meaty rib once a week? If so, he needs to have
> bone everyday not just once a week.
>

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4.2. Re: My dogs teeth on 3rd day of raw rib bones
Posted by: "Heather" newbeginnings06@gmail.com malignstar
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:00 pm ((PST))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Betty" <prismkitten@...> wrote:
If say a tooth falls out, but not the root of the back
> molar, do the regrow it or does it have to come out by dental work?
> Also, do they ever tighten up on their own?

Good to hear about your pup! That's awesome news about his teeth
starting to clean up. :) I don't think teeth ever grow back once the
fall out, regardless if the root is there or not. I'm thinking they
don't tighten back up either. I've never had a dog with tooth problems
(besides tartar) so hopefully someone else can give you answers.

Heather

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4.3. Re: My dogs teeth on 3rd day of raw rib bones
Posted by: "Belinda van de Loo" auntielindyloo@yahoo.com belindavandeloo
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:21 pm ((PST))

Hi,
I switched my sister's 13 year old Bichon to raw this past summer.
Prior to this he had serious dragon mouth and gum disease whereby he
lost 2 incisors. Another incisor was loose but I just checked today
and it is clean and tight - he won't lose it after all!
Belinda

> --- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Betty" <prismkitten@> wrote:
> If say a tooth falls out, but not the root of the back
> > molar, do the regrow it or does it have to come out by dental work?
> > Also, do they ever tighten up on their own?

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5a. Does feeding raw repel fleas and ticks?
Posted by: "Kristina and Corey" skijor.kris@gmail.com skijorkris
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:13 pm ((PST))

I read somewhere that feeding raw food makes a dogs blood bitter to ticks, fleas and even
mosquitos. But I have not read it anywhere else. Does anyone know more about this, or
have an observation regarding it?

We just started feeding our dogs raw a few weeks ago. We don't have any fleas, but they
do get a few ticks and there are tons of mosqitos here in Minnesota in the warmer months.

Just curious...

Kris
skijor.kris@gmail.com

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5b. Re: Does feeding raw repel fleas and ticks?
Posted by: "ginny wilken" gwilken@alamedanet.net ginny439
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:20 pm ((PST))

On Dec 30, 2007, at 6:10 PM, Kristina and Corey wrote:

> I read somewhere that feeding raw food makes a dogs blood bitter to
> ticks, fleas and even
> mosquitos. But I have not read it anywhere else. Does anyone know
> more about this, or
> have an observation regarding it?

We don't know the mechanism, but healthy dogs are naturally
unattractive to parasites, to a high degree. This is nature's way to
take out the unfit. Many of us have made this observation.

ginny and Tomo

All stunts performed without a net!

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5c. Re: Does feeding raw repel fleas and ticks?
Posted by: "Morledzep@aol.com" Morledzep@aol.com morledzep
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:59 pm ((PST))

In a message dated 12/30/2007 6:13:40 PM Pacific Standard Time,
skijor.kris@gmail.com writes:

I read somewhere that feeding raw food makes a dogs blood bitter to ticks,
fleas and even
mosquitos. But I have not read it anywhere else. Does anyone know more about
this, or
have an observation regarding it?

Kris,

healthier dogs are less likely to be infested by any parasite.. BUT raw
feeding does NOT stop fleas or ticks or mosquitos from biting. and it doesn't make
the dogs less tasty.

it DOES make the dogs better able to deal with the assaults and therefore the
fleas and the ticks won't be as interested. But that level of health is a
long way down the road, it doesn't come in the first year or two of raw feeding.


you will still need to find ways to protect your dogs from the assaults of
the parasites. we dust their bedding and the baseboards of the entire house
with food grade DE. Vaccuum frequently and in the summer when they are very
active we spray the dogs with homemade lemon skin tonic.

Most of my dogs have finally reached a point where they are healthy enough to
deal with the parasites.. but we have an immune compromised akita and an old
golden guy that just can't fight em off anymore. so we continue to fight long
and hard.

Catherine R.

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6.1. Re: Hi everyone!
Posted by: "Betty" prismkitten@yahoo.com prismkitten
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:59 pm ((PST))

Yes, mine dog's teeth are bad. I took some before pics, do I request
to have the link added in the link base? I am giving him raw rib bones
now daily..he's on his 3rd day and his 3rd meaty raw rib bone, he gets
it after his usual feeding of raw meat and and on occasion organ
meats. Already the tarter is coming off..ewww...I just had to touch
the back tooth tonight with my fingernail..just looking really good at
that back loose tooth and the tarter and build up stuff came readily
out of the gum line. Tooth is loose, not really bleeding at all,
except maybe irritated in a good way perhaps from the raw rib bones.

I'm wondering if a loose tooth always has to get extracted, or if it
falls out is it ok, or will it ever tighten up on its own? He's 8 and
1/2 yrs. old and hasn't had health issues to date.

Prism

> When the dog has the dental problems this one does, he certainly
does need editable bone every day at least until the problem has
cleared itself up. He will always need bone more than once a week.
> Bill Carnes
> http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm

Feeding Raw since October 2002

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6.2. Re: Hi everyone!
Posted by: "Betty" prismkitten@yahoo.com prismkitten
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:59 pm ((PST))

My 8 and 1/2 yr. old Maltese started on a BARF diet with additional
raw meat 2 x a day in small meals starting in 2002. And he got store
type rawhide bones and a special beefy flavored bone he likes from the
grocery store that is softer. He also got some raw chicken bones on
occasion, but not consistantly, because I thought that the commerical
raw food patties (first Barf then Natures Prarie) has ground raw bone
in it. Dumb me:(
Then a few months ago I started making my own dog food, with raw meat,
organ meats, and some other things (I don't do that now, I just give
him raw meat, some organ meat on occasion and now the raw rib bones)
and because I couldn't find ground bone I thought to give him the raw
chicken bones (thighs or wings) a few times a week. Then I noticed his
teeth were very bad (I knew he needed cleaning but not the extent of
how bad they were)and so with some research I am now giving him his
first ever raw beef rib bones and oh my..he's very attached to them
and cleans them to perfection. He's on day 3 with is 3rd rib bone. The
tarter is already coming off so I'm happy and he's happy. But I don't
know about loose teeth in adult dogs, etc..trying to avoid the dental
vet if possible. I will get him in if needed asap though. I'm just
trying to educate myself better to improve his overall raw feeding.

Prism

The post you were replying to was replying to a post about a dog
> with very heavy plaque who had been fed a homemade diet of meat and
> organs with no bone for a few years I think. The original poster
> had stated that she had JUST begun feeding a rib bone once a week.
> The post you were replying to was written in that context. The dog
has these problems because he wasn't fed bones in a long time.
> Bill Carnes
> http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm
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6.3. Re: Hi everyone!
Posted by: "Betty" prismkitten@yahoo.com prismkitten
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:59 pm ((PST))

How does one go about feeding then? Do I buy a half rabbit with skin
and hair or what? I am wondering now what I'm supposed to do. There
are a lot of different options to be sure. What's a rip and tear meat
to sink teeth into?

My dog is over 8 yrs. old, in very good health outside of his teeth
problems and what that might actually cause. How does one buy a small
fresh dead prey animal for feeding a 9 lb. Maltese?

Prism

> A good, interactive bone several times a week will do a fine job of
> scraping the teeth clean, but even it may not clean the gumlines. A
> good, interactive bone several times a week plus some good old rip and
> tear meat and something for the dog to literally sink its teeth into
is what cleans ALL the teeth.
If one finds oneself feeding bone every day to clean teeth, one should
revaluate the procss. In other words, think again.
> Chris O

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6.4. Re: Hi everyone!/teeth cleaning meals
Posted by: "Laurie Swanson" laurie@mckinneyphoto.com las_lala
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:01 pm ((PST))

You could try a beef or pork roast--with skin is better, but even w/o
skin it will do some good. Get one that's enough for a few days'
meals and let him eat some, put it back in the frig, and repeat until
gone. Whole pork hocks are also good for this--pretty fatty, and not
much of a meal, but good to work on in place of or in addition to a
meal sometimes. If you can get skin-on goat, that's a good choice.
I get big hunks (like a leg or a shoulder w/ribs) at Asian markets.
You could have them cut it into smaller pieces (not too small--like
enough for a few days meals for your dog).

I've never fed skin-on, fur-on rabbit, so can't answer that. If you
can get it, tho, it would probably be good for his teeth, but he may
take a bit to figure out how to tackle it. And rabbit is one of the
iffier items. My dogs love it but some hate it. Some dogs will
really refuse it.

Laurie

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Betty" <prismkitten@...> wrote:
What's a rip and tear meat
> to sink teeth into?

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6.5. Re: Hi everyone!
Posted by: "carnesbill" carnesw@bellsouth.net carnesbill
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:22 pm ((PST))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Betty" <prismkitten@...> wrote:
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> I'm wondering if a loose tooth always has to get extracted, or
> if it falls out is it ok, or will it ever tighten up on its own?

I wouldn't worry about it right now. It may tighten up on its own or
it may just come out on its own. Time will tell

Bill Carnes
http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm

Feeding Raw since October 2002

"Unnatural diets predispose animals to unnatural outcomes"
Dr. Tom Lonsdale

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7a. Re: Another newbie with questions!
Posted by: "carnesbill" carnesw@bellsouth.net carnesbill
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:59 pm ((PST))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "noahsmom8497" <noahsmom8497@...>
wrote:
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> Okay, is it "safe" to get the meat from a grocery store
> or butcher?

Absolutely. I think most of us get a good portion of our meat from
a grocery store or butcher.

> Are there concerns that at some time the meat was at too low of a
> temperature since stores & butchers assume their meat will be
> thoroughly cooked?

Heck no, where in the world did you hear that. Many of us have
multiple freezers for our dog's food.

> Also where do you feed your dogs?

I feed mine in the kitchen. Others feed out side, others feed in
crates. Some feed in the bathroom.

> My puppy tends to drag stuff out of
> her bowl and take it somewhere else.

Most of us don't use bowls. Raw eating doesn't go well with bowls.
We just hand the dog an animal part. It's easy to teach your dog to
eat on a towel, or plastic table cloth layed on the floor, or a
shower curtain.

> Do you feed them outside?

I don't, a few people do.

> I read something about feeding the dog the same huge chuck of
> meat 3x a day. Where do you put it inbetween feedings?

In the fridge.

Bill Carnes
http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm

Feeding Raw since October 2002

"Unnatural diets predispose animals to unnatural outcomes"
Dr. Tom Lonsdale

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7b. Re: Another newbie with questions!
Posted by: "noahsmom8497" noahsmom8497@yahoo.com noahsmom8497
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:29 pm ((PST))

EDITED BY MODERATOR. PLEASE REMEMBER TO TRIM YOUR MESSAGES.

What about cross contamination? The dog eats a raw piece of meat
then goes and plays with it's toys and spreads "stuff" all over the
house. Is that a concern? Thanks again! Julie

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7c. Re: Another newbie with questions!
Posted by: "Laura Atkinson" llatkinson@gmail.com lauraatkinson2002
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:55 pm ((PST))

Only if you're going to chew on their toys and lick the floor yourself :-)

On Dec 30, 2007 8:15 PM, noahsmom8497 <noahsmom8497@yahoo.com> wrote:

> EDITED BY MODERATOR. PLEASE REMEMBER TO TRIM YOUR MESSAGES.
>
>
> What about cross contamination? The dog eats a raw piece of meat
> then goes and plays with it's toys and spreads "stuff" all over the
> house. Is that a concern? Thanks again! Julie
>
>
>

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7d. Re: Another newbie with questions!
Posted by: "Sandee Lee" rlee@plix.com mariasmom2001
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:18 pm ((PST))

What are you concerned about, Julie? Bacteria are everywhere and most not
harmful. Really has nothing to do with raw meat...in fact, I'd be more
worried about the mouth of a dog eating kibble than raw.

Sandee & the Dane Gang

From: "noahsmom8497" <noahsmom8497@yahoo.com>

What about cross contamination? The dog eats a raw piece of meat
then goes and plays with it's toys and spreads "stuff" all over the
house. Is that a concern? Thanks again! Julie

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7e. Re: Another newbie with questions!
Posted by: "carnesbill" carnesw@bellsouth.net carnesbill
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:22 pm ((PST))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "noahsmom8497" <noahsmom8497@...>
wrote:
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> What about cross contamination?

Somehow you have the vision of raw meat covered in all kinds of
deadly stuff. Get that image out of your mind. It's not
realistic. Hundreds of millions of people handle raw meat every day
and nothing happens. I don't wash my hands everytime I touch some
raw meat.

Did you never handle raw meat before you started feeding your dog
raw?

Bill Carnes
http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm

Feeding Raw since October 2002

"Unnatural diets predispose animals to unnatural outcomes"
Dr. Tom Lonsdale

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8.1. Re: liver
Posted by: "T Smith" coldbeach@gmail.com lhasaspots
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:01 pm ((PST))

2 of my Danes despise liver!
Drwoned in garlic... parm cheese...
No idea yet how to get them to eat it or the kidneys for that matter...
May have to nuke it next if i don't puke from the smell first *blech*
Trina

On Dec 30, 2007 11:00 AM, Sai Simonson <saiczarina@comcast.net> wrote:

> Tracy,
> My Borzois hate chicken liver but adore beef liver. Thus, I give them
> beef liver.
> Tasha spits the chicken liver out on the floor. If i bribe her with a
> pork steak she will give in.
> Dogs much like humans have food likes and dislikes.
>
> Sai
>

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8.2. Re: liver
Posted by: "Belinda van de Loo" auntielindyloo@yahoo.com belindavandeloo
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:20 pm ((PST))

Dehydrated liver is irresistable for the dogs! I bought a dehydrator
pretty cheaply on eBay and have been using it for making all sorts of
raw treats and food for when we're on the go. If you do try to
dehydrate liver, I suggest you put your dehydrator in the garage for
the 24-36 hours it'll take. It's very smelly and the smell lingers for
days afterwards - not recommended for indoors!
Belinda

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8.3. Re: liver
Posted by: "Morledzep@aol.com" Morledzep@aol.com morledzep
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:21 pm ((PST))

In a message dated 12/30/2007 9:01:46 PM Pacific Standard Time,
coldbeach@gmail.com writes:

No idea yet how to get them to eat it or the kidneys for that matter...
May have to nuke it next if i don't puke from the smell first *blech*

Trina,

they are picking up on your revulsion.. you need to get a handle on your
emotions. as long as you have strong reactions to the organ meats your dogs won't
eat them no matter what you do to them.

put them in food bowls, do whatever you need to to keep yourself in check.
And when the dogs are eating go somewhere else, another room or something so
you won't upset them further. Give them about half an hour to eat and if they
don't pick it up, cover it and put in the fridge until their next meal.

or chunk it and mix it with green tripe.. again, with you in another room to
keep your emotions from upsetting the dogs..

Catherine R.

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9a. Re: Pickey eating and Horking it back up, Silly story and questions
Posted by: "Casey Post" mikken@neo.rr.com mikkeny
Date: Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:54 pm ((PST))

> I've been feeding my dogs Pork Kidney now for about a month and they
> are doing fine with digesting and all, but a few odd behaviors have
> happened with 3 out of the 7

Erika,

Pork kidney is NOT a favorite among my crew - so much so that I won't be
buying it again. But beef kidney is much better received and lamb kidney
better still - everyone likes lamb kidneys at my house!

So don't give up on kidney all together, just try a different kind of kidney
in the future.

Casey

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