[rawfeeding] Digest Number 12355

There are 24 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: Raw egg yolks not raw egg whites
From: Yasuko herron
1b. Re: Raw egg yolks not raw egg whites
From: mozookpr
1c. Re: Raw egg yolks not raw egg whites
From: carnesbill
1d. Re: Raw egg yolks not raw egg whites
From: amvilppu
1e. Re: Raw egg yolks not raw egg whites
From: costrowski75
1f. Re: Raw egg yolks not raw egg whites
From: v_rod_or

2a. Re: Small Chihuahua Starting RAW
From: Bumble1994@aol.com

3a. Re: Squirrels and Rabbits
From: JustTom
3b. Re: Squirrels and Rabbits
From: Denise Strother
3c. Re: Squirrels and Rabbits
From: carnesbill

4a. Re: vomiting after eating a rabbit leg
From: killarneykateau

5a. Re: Fish and Game
From: Yasuko herron
5b. Re: Fish and Game
From: mozookpr

6a. Meat Sales This Week: Pork ribs, Chicken & Game hens
From: Susan Fortune
6b. Re: Meat Sales This Week: Pork ribs, Chicken & Game hens
From: costrowski75

7. Re: Rawfeeding puppy response
From: bunchodogs

8a. Re: Bottom round
From: Sai Simonson

9. Feeding liver EVERYDAY???
From: coriowen

10a. Re: Ease the itching
From: ginny wilken

11a. Anyone feed wild hog?
From: coriowen
11b. Re: Anyone feed wild hog?
From: birdiegirl67

12a. Re: PRAA and Mega-E
From: ginny wilken

13a. Re: new to list - any germans out there?
From: ginny wilken
13b. Re: new to list - any germans out there?
From: jennifer_hell

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1a. Re: Raw egg yolks not raw egg whites
Posted by: "Yasuko herron" sunshine_annamaria@yahoo.com sunshine_annamaria
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 1:32 pm ((PST))

>I did not know one should separate them. Was informed today that raw
egg whites bond with the B's and make them unusable for dogs

Hi,Sai. Search thearchive by wording Egg.You find thesame question in thepast but you do not have to separate them. Just crack it andmixed in the Fish oil you found success with andyou are good to go.Whole raw Egg for dogs not Eggwhite orYork etc. No need.

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1b. Re: Raw egg yolks not raw egg whites
Posted by: "mozookpr" mozookpr@yahoo.com mozookpr
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 4:14 pm ((PST))

Just crack it andmixed in the Fish oil you found success with andyou
are good to go.Whole raw Egg for dogs not Eggwhite orYork etc. No need.
>
> yassy

Some dogs enjoy a whole egg, as is, uncracked. Sort of a brain-teaser
and a snack, all in one. There are some *funny* clips of this on
YouTube...

Wendy

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1c. Re: Raw egg yolks not raw egg whites
Posted by: "carnesbill" carnesw@bellsouth.net carnesbill
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 4:39 pm ((PST))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, Sai Simonson <saiczarina@...> wrote:
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> I did not know one should separate them.

Hey Sai,
Don't worry about it. Feed the whole egg. I don't feed the shell but
many do. I used to but decided there was no need and my dogs didn't
particularly like them.

Bill Carnes
http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm

Feeding Raw since October 2002

"Unnatural diets predispose animals to unnatural outcomes"
Dr. Tom Lonsdale

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1d. Re: Raw egg yolks not raw egg whites
Posted by: "amvilppu" amvilppu@hotmail.com amvilppu
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 5:30 pm ((PST))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, Sai Simonson <saiczarina@...> wrote:
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> I did not know one should separate them. Was informed today that raw
> egg whites bond with the B's and make them unusable for dogs. I have
> not yet done research myself but thought I would see what you guys have
> found about raw egg whites.
>
> Sai
>
This topic came up about a month ago, if I recall. You should be able to do a search for the
strand of postings. Bottom line, it is not a concern. You can feed the whole raw egg, which
many people on this list do.

Annaliisa, Drew, and Boxer pup Laila

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1e. Re: Raw egg yolks not raw egg whites
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 8:40 pm ((PST))

Sai Simonson <saiczarina@...> wrote:
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> I did not know one should separate them.
*****
Sure. Whites for souffles and angelfood cake, yolks for mayonnaise.
otherwise, pfft. Eat them combined, feed them combined.

What you were told is simply wrong...but really great urban myths and
old wives' tales never die, they just come around again on the guitar.
Chris O

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1f. Re: Raw egg yolks not raw egg whites
Posted by: "v_rod_or" v_rod_or@yahoo.com v_rod_or
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2007 2:30 am ((PST))

> Was informed today that raw egg whites bond with the B's and make
them unusable for dogs.

You're talking about this
<http://www.provet.co.uk/health/diseases/eggwhite.htm> , right?

The potential for problems only occurs when a lot of raw egg
whites are consumed without yolks. If you're feeding whole raw eggs
or cooked egg whites, it's a non-issue.

Rod & Spike
Eugene, OR

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2a. Re: Small Chihuahua Starting RAW
Posted by: "Bumble1994@aol.com" Bumble1994@aol.com bumble1994
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 2:34 pm ((PST))

In a message dated 12/7/2007 4:32:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, "Kelly"
writes:

The cornish hens at the supermarket come in packs of
two and they're rather expensive.

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Can you find an ethnic grocery? I'm getting them for $2 for a 2-pound hen
while my regular groceries are double that or more. Lots of good stuff in
ethnic groceries. :)

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3a. Re: Squirrels and Rabbits
Posted by: "JustTom" general.woundwort@yahoo.com general.woundwort
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 2:34 pm ((PST))

--- eclipseapbts <eclipseapbts@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Can I safely feed
> squirrel? Any specific parts they shouldn't eat? Is
>>

Not only can you safely feed squirrel to your dogs,
but you can safely eat it yourself.

Best gravy ever!

tom

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3b. Re: Squirrels and Rabbits
Posted by: "Denise Strother" denisestrother@yahoo.com denisestrother
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 2:34 pm ((PST))

I'd feed them gladly. I wish I knew someone here who would make me
that offer. Freeze them solid for a couple of weeks and see what your
dogs think of them.

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "eclipseapbts" <eclipseapbts@...>
wrote:
I got an offer from a hunter, he wants to hunt squirrels and rabbits
but doesn't want to eat them. He offered them to me. Can I safely feed
squirrel? Any specific parts they shouldn't eat? Is there a certain
period of time I should keep them frozen? Disease risks?

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3c. Re: Squirrels and Rabbits
Posted by: "carnesbill" carnesw@bellsouth.net carnesbill
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 5:30 pm ((PST))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "eclipseapbts" <eclipseapbts@...>
wrote:
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> I got an offer from a hunter, he wants to hunt squirrels and rabbits
> but doesn't want to eat them. He offered them to me. Can I safely >
> feed squirrel?

My cats eat them regularly. Dogs can't catch them. Too bad for
them. :) Sometimes they will steal one from a cat. :) Feed both
squirrel and rabbit. Both are good for your dog.

Bill Carnes
http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm

Feeding Raw since October 2002

"Unnatural diets predispose animals to unnatural outcomes"
Dr. Tom Lonsdale

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4a. Re: vomiting after eating a rabbit leg
Posted by: "killarneykateau" catherin@vicnet.net.au killarneykateau
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 2:34 pm ((PST))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Susanne MacLeod" <suzmacleod@...> wrote:
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> My guys....Joey and Kate (French Bulldogs) love rabbit, but my boy Joey
> had the same difficulty. He hurled it up after....not sure why. I
> decided to try to hold the leg and let him slowly eat it, and make sure
> he chewed it all, was crucial. Once he found hi way...he was all
> good. No more vomiting. His sister Kate had no problem, but she's a
> great eater!
> Suz Kate and Joey
>

Thanks, everyone, that is really helpful.
Andrea, I guess I should have let her (Penny) have another go at it. My sister was in the
room - I wasn't - and 'helpfully' cleaned it up. If it happens again I will wait and see. I
tried a little bit of meat cut off another leg just now, mixed with a more familiar food. So
far so good.

In an hour or so I will try your idea, Susanne, of actually holding it as she chews.

Chris, I think she just 'slimed and swallowed'. When it came back out it was in one huge
piece. Though it was 'bendy', so she had chewed the bone in it, if you know what I mean.

Uh, oh. She just went outsdie. I'll pop out and see she is still holding it down.

Thanks again. I am usually a 'lurker' but gets lots of info from this great group.
Catherine

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5a. Re: Fish and Game
Posted by: "Yasuko herron" sunshine_annamaria@yahoo.com sunshine_annamaria
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 2:34 pm ((PST))

> is it your practice to feed organs with every meal?

No,chris. I give 3 times per week so far. sometimes,she gets organ,sometimes,not.
I maybe should have written,she got Frog leg,fish,meat and organ and tripe on that particular day. On that day,yes,she got organ but not every day she gets organ.

It is just that I do not have many organs in our freezer,so,I feed POrk liver kidney combo asorgan oneday,Beef liver andkidney combo one day and usually chicken liver because those are available at store and I had it. now,the chicken liver is out of stock so,I thought I would give other kind of organ from different one which I thought i would do Turkey liver.That is all.

yassy

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5b. Re: Fish and Game
Posted by: "mozookpr" mozookpr@yahoo.com mozookpr
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 4:14 pm ((PST))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "vanevery0" <bvanevery@...> wrote:
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> --- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "gbongi1" <gbongi1@> wrote:
> >
> > Also about fish.
> > I catch White and yellow perch, tog, blues, and striper.
> > Can I feed my dog these items whole?
>
> Know the pollution levels of the rivers / lakes you fish in.
> Generally you can look these up at governmental fishing websites.

I was thinking of this, too. Environmental pollutants would be my
greatest concern with freshwater fish. If I would not eat fish from
a given body of water, I would not feed it to an animal, either.
Heavy metals can, of course, be a concern with ocean fish, as well,
but many ponds, lakes and rivers are unsafe due to agricultural run-
off -- pesticides, weed killers, and such.

Wendy

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6a. Meat Sales This Week: Pork ribs, Chicken & Game hens
Posted by: "Susan Fortune" desperatelyseekingsusan@cox.net cactususan
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 4:13 pm ((PST))

Albertson's is advertising:

Pork shoulder country-style ribs: 10# for $10,

Foster Farms whole chicken for .69 cents per pound

Ralph's is advertising:

Cornish Game Hens for .97 cents per pound in a 2-pack with Ralph's Club Card.

Both ads are for the week of Dec. 5-Dec 11.

Susan
Southern California

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6b. Re: Meat Sales This Week: Pork ribs, Chicken & Game hens
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 8:47 pm ((PST))

"Susan Fortune" <desperatelyseekingsusan@...> wrote:
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> Albertson's is advertising:
>
> Pork shoulder country-style ribs: 10# for $10,
>
> Foster Farms whole chicken for .69 cents per pound
>
>
> Ralph's is advertising:
>
> Cornish Game Hens for .97 cents per pound in a 2-pack with Ralph's
Club Card.
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Oh stop.
I can't bear it.
Ralph's pulled the plug in Northern California a few years ago. And
Albertson's last summer sold most of its stores up here to SaveMart;
in the Bay Area (in a bizarre ironic twist since it was Albertson's
that bought out Lucky) they're being renamed "Lucky".

I don't wanna know!
Chris O

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7. Re: Rawfeeding puppy response
Posted by: "bunchodogs" bunchodogs@hotmail.com bunchodogs
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 4:14 pm ((PST))

Thanks for helping me with the puppy feeding. He is a Siberian Husky.
His "brothers and sister" (all Siberians) love their raw food! I'll
just feed him like I do the others, but with more frequent meals.

Linda

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8a. Re: Bottom round
Posted by: "Sai Simonson" saiczarina@comcast.net keikokat
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 4:14 pm ((PST))

Sandy, this is more of a treat in the morning to add meat....balance out
the turkey necks.

At 3 bucks a pound there will not be whole roasts on the menu.

Sai
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Posted by: "Sandee Lee" rlee@plix.com mariasmom2001
Thu Dec 6, 2007 9:09 pm (PST)
No need to go to all that work slicing these wonderful roasts...hand them a
nice large chunk! What a great meal!

Sandee & the Dane Gang

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9. Feeding liver EVERYDAY???
Posted by: "coriowen" COwen98@aol.com coriowen
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 5:30 pm ((PST))

I just saw a post on a horse board that I frequent and some woman says
she feeds her Dachshunds chicken livers and rice everyday. First off,
I am not condoning what she is doing by any means and I want to get
some good advice here so I can correct her and hopefully get her
pointed in the right direction. Thanks everyone. =)
Cori

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10a. Re: Ease the itching
Posted by: "ginny wilken" gwilken@alamedanet.net ginny439
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 6:09 pm ((PST))

On Dec 6, 2007, at 11:52 PM, sltahoek9s wrote:

>
> Is his system just compromised a little? Should I just give him
> some more time and see
> what happens or should I cut out the poultry again? Any
> suggestions to ease the itching?
>

It's not the food, most likely. It IS a compromised system. I'd
suggest dropping over to RawChat, as I've given this speech a few
times before, and it really doesn't belong here. You could also
search the archives for posts I've written regarding itching.

ginny and Tomo

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11a. Anyone feed wild hog?
Posted by: "coriowen" COwen98@aol.com coriowen
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 6:10 pm ((PST))

We live out in East Texas and we are over run with wild hogs out here.
Our neighbor across the road has 1500 acres and he traps hogs and asked
us if we wanted them for the dogs? I do, but how quickly do you have
to get them to the killers? We have one in the next town over about 20
miles away. These hogs can weigh over 200lbs. We also get still born
calves from them and we just let the dogs eat one (75lbs) for two days
and then let the coyotes have the rest of the carcass because our
freezer was full. Anyway, what would y'all recommend?
Cori
P.S. I don't know if y'all remember, but I feed a 200lb Mastiff and a
75lb Doberman so this would be nice to have a hog every now and then,
really as much as we'd like.

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11b. Re: Anyone feed wild hog?
Posted by: "birdiegirl67" birdiegirl67@comcast.net birdiegirl67
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 7:27 pm ((PST))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "coriowen" <COwen98@...> wrote:
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> We live out in East Texas and we are over run with wild hogs out here.

Hi neighbor! I live in East Texas as well. I feed my animals wild
hog as often as I can get one. My boyfriend hunts them, as well as
some other family members, and they have broought several to me. I do
my own processing. We hang them up using the bucket on the tractor.
Mostly everything is used. What isn't is fed to my chickens, or
composted. With 5 dogs and 6 cats (who all eat hog with no
problems), I look forward to getting the phone call!

Donna

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12a. Re: PRAA and Mega-E
Posted by: "ginny wilken" gwilken@alamedanet.net ginny439
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 6:13 pm ((PST))

On Dec 6, 2007, at 10:22 PM, happy_furkids wrote:

>
> If it's off-topic for this list, please feel free to off-list me.
> I'm also interestfd in hearing about any supplements folks may have
> knowledge about for his thachea/breathing and to promote eye
> function.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tracy in Oakland

Oakland CA, or Michigan? We're in Alameda. Say, Mega is addressable
by homeopathy. You want to go to the list ClassicalHomeopathyPets,
make some queries, and get on board with the list owner. She has
successfully treated cases.

Mega is nerve damage from the rabies vaccine, many times.

ginny and Tomo

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13a. Re: new to list - any germans out there?
Posted by: "ginny wilken" gwilken@alamedanet.net ginny439
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 6:59 pm ((PST))

On Dec 7, 2007, at 1:11 PM, SLib700@aol.com wrote:

> Hallo Debbie! I'm German but I live in the US. Maybe you could
> contact your
> nearest Schlachthof, sorry but I could not remember the English
> word for
> it,or talk to a local butcher and ask if has any tips for you!
> Also contact a
> Forest Ranger/Foerster and he might be able to help you out with
> game meat.
> Annette.
>

Slaughterhouse.

ginny and Tomo

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13b. Re: new to list - any germans out there?
Posted by: "jennifer_hell" jenniferhell@web.de jennifer_hell
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2007 2:30 am ((PST))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "ddgkkg2003" <ddgkkg2003@...> wrote:
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> hi, im new to the list - i live in germany- was wondering if anyone
> orders meat in bulk or how you obtain your meat here?
>
> debbie
> wuerzburg
>
Hello Debbie,
try the forum on www.gesundehunde.com. Just be careful, they're all
barfers and believe all that cr*p about protein excess when feeding
prey model and our dogs are not wolves yaddayaddayadda. Lol! But they
have lists of sources, and Einkaufsgemeinschaften.If someone asks you
what you feed, just lie. *snickers*
I get all my stuff locally, thank God, and just filled my second
freezer with venison supply that will last until next October!

Jennifer from Germany

(you can email me privately whenever you want =) )

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