[rawfeeding] Digest Number 12187

There are 5 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: Rats
From: Giselle

2a. Re: [rawfeeding] Raw-feeder from China needs help£¡£¡£¡£¡10-we
From: Giselle

3a. RMB
From: maurwyck
3b. Re: RMB
From: Giselle

4a. Re: How do you deal w/ vets that blame raw diet
From: Nataly A

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1a. Re: Rats
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:12 pm ((PDT))

Hi, Susanne!
Well, its seems to me that hairless critters can have
parasites, even fleas, too.

If you obtained breeding rats, or rabbits or guinea pigs, or whatever, if
they were in good condition, I'm supposing that they wouldn't have fleas.
And, if they got fleas, you could just treat them and their environment with
diatomaceous earth, and Wa-La! No fleas!

Treating the house, the outdoors, feed animals and the dogs with de can get
rid of an infestation. You can also feed de to divest your dogs and feed
animals of internal parasites.

You could raise chickens. I don't think they get fleas, but they do get
mites, which can be treated with de, too.

There are sites and lists you can access to learn about raising meat rabbits
and chickens, and other critters, too.
Just do some Googling, and look up key words on the Yahoo! Groups site, and
you'll find them. You can probably even find local breeders of prey animals
in your area this way.

TC
Giselle
with Bea in New Jersey

<snip>
>
> >>A question; How do you know that hairless rats don't get
> fleas?>>>
>
> I don't know, can fleas be hairless too :)
>
> <<<And, what other criteria would you use to decide on a rat variety
> to raise for prey for your dogs?>>>
>
> Well, rats are so easy to raise and produce in mass, it wouldn't be a
> major meat in their diet. When I do some trapping I normally get
> wood rats and they have fleas. I hate the idea of fleas even coming
> or getting close to my house, so trying to find more sources of
> rodents. We already get squirrel and rabbit. Any suggestions??
>
> I had a young pup or pups (don't know who got it) last summer that
> caught a rat out in the yard. It seemed that they played with a bit
> before eating it. Well, short story, I got a really BIG flea
> problem after that. Had to wash 10 pups and 2 adults, it takes half
> the day and wash once a weeks until the problems was over. Not fun
> at all. Sprayed the house and the whole yard and they couldn't come
> in the house for awhile.
>
> Thanks,
> Susanne, Courtney & the Dane Gang (Zoe, Wilson, Annie & the Rescues)
>
> Life is grand when you love a Dane. Have you licked your Dane
> today?:P
>
>

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2a. Re: [rawfeeding] Raw-feeder from China needs help£¡£¡£¡£¡10-we
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:39 pm ((PDT))

Hi, Cher!
Uh, if the pup is healthy otherwise, he may just have a huge worm
load. Big pot bellies in pups can be a sign of worms.

You can treat with food grade de. I'm not sure of the dosage for a young
pup.
http://www.dirtworks.net/Diatomaceous-Earth.html#anchorD20
(doses listed at the end of the page)

Three or four times a day feeding sounds about right, but if he has worms,
especially tapes, they'll be taking up all the nourishment he takes in, and
he'll still be ravenously hungry, no matter how much you feed him. And,
there won't be much to poop out, as the tapes will be taking up all the
nourishment and not leaving much waste.

You can look for worms in the poop and bedding; tapes look like rice, white
or pinkish.
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_tapeworm.html

You will probably only see round worms, whip worms, or hook worms in the
stool after treatment.
roundworms;
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/roundworms_in_dogs___puppies.html
hookworms;
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_hookworms.html
whipworms;
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_whipworms.html

Your English is fine! There were three characters that I didn't understand,
maybe the first meant family?

TC
Giselle
with Bea in New Jersey

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>
>
> Ten days ago, we had a new member ¨C a puppy, which I don¡¯t know
> exactly how old, but I guess two months old since he has 28 baby teeth
> now. I have been feeding raw chicken, beef, duck and pork to him since
> the second day. The little guy loves his raw diet so much that he sits
> and waits every time I go into the kitchen.
>
> The problem is that his poo seems abnormal ¨C I mean, too little. And
> it seems to me his belly is kind of swelling ¨C don¡¯t know how a
> puppy¡¯s belly looks like. The last time he pooed was last Friday. So
> it¡¯s been nearly three days he hasn¡¯t had any bowel movement. I fed
> him three times a day in the first four days and four times a day in
> the past few days coz he seems always hungry. However, the more I
> feed, the less he poos! Other than that, he looks fine, as playful as
> usual.
>

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>
> Any input would be appreciated!Hope you guy can understand my Chinglish!
>
> Cher
> A mother of three four-legged kids from China
>
>
>

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3a. RMB
Posted by: "maurwyck" Maurwyck@hotmail.com maurwyck
Date: Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:03 am ((PDT))

Hello
There was a lnik I found and it was to download the Raw Meaty Bone
book. I can't seem to find it now. I have found the book but it's all
to buy. does anyone have the link?

Christina

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3b. Re: RMB
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:28 am ((PDT))

Hi, Christina!
It used to be free to dl, but now they charge for it.
Contact me by private email, and I'll share my copy with you.
TC
Giselle
with Bea in New Jersey

On 10/22/07, maurwyck <Maurwyck@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello
> There was a link I found and it was to download the Raw Meaty Bone
> book. I can't seem to find it now. I have found the book but it's all
> to buy. does anyone have the link?
>
> Christina
>
>

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4a. Re: How do you deal w/ vets that blame raw diet
Posted by: "Nataly A" rap_squad@yahoo.com rap_squad
Date: Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:20 am ((PDT))

I always find funny that people talk to me about sickness or germs from the raw food when there at least 5 cases of mass-deaths/injuries from commercial foods in the past 2 years alone.
I would have asked the nice nurse if she tells the owners kibble fed dogs to stop feeding kibble when their dogs come to the clinic with allergies, intestinal problems, crystals in the urinary tract, obisity etc.
i bet not.

Nat.

----- Original Message ----
From: Annaliisa Readman <amvilppu@hotmail.com>
To: rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 2:12:17 AM
Subject: [rawfeeding] Re: How do you deal w/ vets that blame raw diet

Has anyone had experience with their dogs getting sick from their meat? Just curious.

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