[rawfeeding] Digest Number 12151

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: Concerned about missing vitamins
From: carnesbill
1b. Re: Concerned about missing vitamins
From: Sandee Lee

2a. Re: Dog/Household Cleanliness
From: Bumble1994@aol.com
2b. Re: Dog/Household Cleanliness
From: Jaala

3. Introduction and question(s)
From: Di

4a. Re: I am so confused...Please help
From: Jaala
4b. Re: I am so confused...Please help
From: cypressbunny
4c. Re: I am so confused...Please help
From: cypressbunny
4d. Re: I am so confused...Please help
From: Sandee Lee
4e. Re: I am so confused...Please help
From: Giselle
4f. Re: I am so confused...Please help
From: Carol Dunster
4g. Re: I am so confused...Please help
From: Jaala
4h. Re: I am so confused...Please help
From: Sandee Lee
4i. Re: I am so confused...Please help
From: sphynxlover2

5. dog with chronic diarrhea
From: jab48328

6a. PLS HELP ME FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH TO FEED AS A MEAL?
From: angela182548
6b. Re: PLS HELP ME FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH TO FEED AS A MEAL?
From: katkellm

7a. Re: Great Prices on chicken
From: girlndocs

8a. Re: Switching to "big"/Gorge-Fast
From: katkellm

9a. Re: Is this normal??
From: tottime47

10a. Re: duke needs to brush his teeth.
From: Michelle Grabert
10b. Re: duke needs to brush his teeth.
From: costrowski75

11a. Re: Gorging---bloat concern?
From: girlndocs

12. Raw feeding for Sphynx cats.
From: sphynxlover2

13a. Re: Off topic post from a moderator-Help Needed
From: tottime47

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1a. Re: Concerned about missing vitamins
Posted by: "carnesbill" carnesw@bellsouth.net carnesbill
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:30 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "trayc2244" <BreeZ119@...> wrote:
>
> I do not feed
> veggitables, fruit, legumes, or grains. I have just read some
> information ...

The information you read was wrong. There are no nutrients in
vegetables, fruit, legumes or grains that is not in the meat, bones
and organs of the prey animals that eat them. Those are the animals
you feed to your dog.

> Should I add these other foods to his diet?

Absolutely no.

> If I don't add them, should I supplement to make sure he gets
> all the essential vitamins?

No, there is no scientific evidence that any supplements actually
help any humans or dogs. All the nutrients that your dog needs are
in the meat, bones, and organs of the prey animals they eat. If
that weren't so, wolves would have been extinct hundreds of
thousands of years ago.

Bill Carnes
http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm

Feeding Raw since October 2002

"Unnatural diets predispose animals to unnatural outcomes"
Dr. Tom Lonsdale

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1b. Re: Concerned about missing vitamins
Posted by: "Sandee Lee" rlee@plix.com mariasmom2001
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:49 pm ((PDT))

Tracy,

I can see why you are confused. Put the book down! :))

Sandee & the Dane Gang

From: "trayc2244" <BreeZ119@catt.com>

Well, I have been reading Dr. Pitchairn's book Natual health for dogs
and cats. I get mixed messages and I am getting confused.

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2a. Re: Dog/Household Cleanliness
Posted by: "Bumble1994@aol.com" Bumble1994@aol.com bumble1994
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:31 pm ((PDT))

Hi, Kathleen,

Congratulations if your newbie cats are already eating ground raw. :)

Try increasing the size of the pieces of meat gradually and when a 1-2 oz
piece of beef stew or pork or chicken breast will disappear, use a bone-in
chicken breast piece and see if that all goes away.You might need
to smash up a chicken wing so the cat will realize there's something eatable
inside the bone...

When you feed a bony meal, after the bone, offer an ounce of meaty meat,
since there's not much meat on a wing or a neck piece... (But AFTER, so hungry
boy eats the bone first. Or at least gnaws on it and starts toward
eating it.)

My cats got chicken thighs tonight, with part of the meat cut off, to be fed
as just a meaty meal in the morning.

Lynda

In a message dated 10/11/2007 5:08:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
"redshorty1959" writes:

> Cats yes...(I am giving them ground raw on a plate)

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2b. Re: Dog/Household Cleanliness
Posted by: "Jaala" vaughanjaala@aol.com central_tx_angel04
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:21 pm ((PDT))

***MODERATOR'S NOTE: PLEASE SIGN YOUR MESSAGES.***

My two short hair dogs keep themselves pretty clean. With my poodle, I
band her ears while she is eating and try to ignore the stuff on her
legs :P

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3. Introduction and question(s)
Posted by: "Di" fleabite001@yahoo.com fleabite001
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:32 pm ((PDT))

Hi everyone,

My name is Di and I live in Western Australia.

I have a rescue dog called Dexter. He is one year old and a big cattle
dog/sheepdog type, with long legs. I've had him almost 6 weeks. He was
very unhappy in the dogs home though he was well treated of course and
was a big favourite there because of his character and temperament.

When I got him he was very thin, his breastbone was like a knifeblade,
it was impossible to rub his chest without choosing one side or other
of the "knife". His coat was rough and dull and he had no appetite.

The dog's home sold me some k****le they said he'd like, but he
refused it. To get him to eat I gave him some raw meat I had and we
were on our way!

He is now well covered and getting a more adult shape with a broad
chest. His coat is just beautiful. First the hair on his head became
soft and shiny, then every day the good health spread down his body
from there and now he is just beautiful.

I didn't know about introducing foods one at a time, I just bought
what was on special and have fed him chicken, lamb and beef. I tried
fish but he just rolled in it! He has enjoyed playing with a raw egg.
I made him go outside again with it after he bought it in whole and
left it on the couch!

Sometimes his stools are loose, especially the first three weeks.
Recently he seems constipated, trying to "go" unsuccessfully. I have
just fed him a lamb's liver to loosen him up. That's right isn't it?

His appetite has improved so much, he reminds me when it's mealtime now.

I am wondering how to gauge the correct amount to feed him as he is
"bulking up" as a year old dog, also he is a young working dog with
high exercise needs. We walk him twice a day for a total of an hour or
more,which usually incorporates a good play session with some mates.

Yesterday we went on a long run (me on a bike) for a couple of hours,
and he had plenty of energy to play afterwards.
Though this is the first morning he isn't bugging me for a walk!

Should I just feed him as he asks for it? I feed him twice a day.
Usually he asks me for more till he's full then he says "thank you"
and lies down to rest.

I think he's at the right weight at the moment, I can see his last two
ribs and can feel his ribs when I stroke him upwards with both hands,
but now downwards.

Sorry for the length of this. It is partly because I am so proud of
him! and partly for the information.

Thanks to the moderators for running this excellent list

Di

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4a. Re: I am so confused...Please help
Posted by: "Jaala" vaughanjaala@aol.com central_tx_angel04
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:32 pm ((PDT))

When I started my dogs on raw I went from kibble one day to raw the
next and everything was ok.

Giselle said "doom nuggets" and I almost fell out of my chair laughing!
~Jaala

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4b. Re: I am so confused...Please help
Posted by: "cypressbunny" cypressbunny@yahoo.com cypressbunny
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:34 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "trayc2244" <BreeZ119@...> wrote:
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> I was reading this in the book by Dr. Pitcairn's natural health for
> dogs and cats. It states to fast a sick animal?? I don't know.

*** If the dog is vomiting or having diarrhea, it makes sense to fast.
Already the system is having trouble dealing with the food, or perhaps
with bad food. Why add more on top of what the body already can't deal
with? Fast for a meal or a day, and then start again with a small meal
and see how it goes. If the illness is not GI related, fasting might
not be appropriate.

Carrie

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4c. Re: I am so confused...Please help
Posted by: "cypressbunny" cypressbunny@yahoo.com cypressbunny
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:35 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Jaala" <vaughanjaala@...> wrote:

> Giselle said "doom nuggets" and I almost fell out of my chair
laughing!

*** She STOLE the term Doom Nuggets from ME!!! I've trade marked it
and nobody can use it without my express written permission!

Just kidding, I get a big kick out of seeing it appear here and there
years after I first said it :-)

Carrie

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4d. Re: I am so confused...Please help
Posted by: "Sandee Lee" rlee@plix.com mariasmom2001
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:40 pm ((PDT))

Is she sick?

Sandee & the Dane Gang

From: "trayc2244" <BreeZ119@catt.com>

I was reading this in the book by Dr. Pitcairn's natural health for
dogs and cats. It states to fast a sick animal?? I don't know.

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4e. Re: I am so confused...Please help
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:15 pm ((PDT))

I really like it, too!!

From now on, it'll be Doom Nuggets *tm (Carrie)!! ROFL

And I like to write cr*p-in-a-bag, too. But no one's ever claimed that term!

^_^ Carrie!

TC
Giselle

>
> > Giselle said "doom nuggets" and I almost fell out of my chair
> laughing!
>
> *** She STOLE the term Doom Nuggets from ME!!! I've trade marked it
> and nobody can use it without my express written permission!
>
> Just kidding, I get a big kick out of seeing it appear here and there
> years after I first said it :-)
>
> Carrie
>
>

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4f. Re: I am so confused...Please help
Posted by: "Carol Dunster" cedunster@centurytel.net carwynst
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:20 pm ((PDT))

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:48:21 -0000, you wrote:

>Can someone let me
>know which would be better, starting raw asap, or fasting 2-7 days.

First I'd say - take a deep breath. Relax. Plan to just feed and enjoy
your new dog. It doesn't make any sense at all to fast for several
days, just spend time with your dog and let the dog show you what you
need to know. It really seems quite simple - though I just started, my
little dogs are having a great time and are thrilled to have "real
food" for their dinner! (They are already used to some raw in their
diet, so the change over is very smooth so far.)

~ Carol
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4g. Re: I am so confused...Please help
Posted by: "Jaala" vaughanjaala@aol.com central_tx_angel04
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:29 pm ((PDT))

She has mange

*~Jaala~*
Diego(Pit bull)~Kelsey(Boxer/shar pei)~Ava(Standard poodle)
Bouncer and Oakley(Cats)~Peekaboo and JT(Cockatiels)
Wally(Bearded dragon)~ and two gold fish. *Welcome to my zoo*

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4h. Re: I am so confused...Please help
Posted by: "Sandee Lee" rlee@plix.com mariasmom2001
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:34 pm ((PDT))

All the more reason to feed appropriately.

Sandee & the Dane Gang

From: "Jaala" <vaughanjaala@aol.com>

She has mange

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4i. Re: I am so confused...Please help
Posted by: "sphynxlover2" AST42701@aol.com sphynxlover2
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:04 pm ((PDT))

Hi Tracy,
I am still new to raw feeding (3 1/2 months in) but I just woke up one
morning and looked at my pet's kibble and thought "I wouldn't want to
eat this every day for my entire life. Why should I expect my pets
to?". I didn't know nearly enough at the time, but I threw out the
kibble and jumped in with both feet that day and I've never looked
back. I had a hard time at first convincing my 6 year old AmStaff, who
has always been an extremely picky eater. Now he gets so excited at
dinner time I can't even believe it's the same dog. My other two (a
Chi and a Sphynx) were easy to convince and seemed to wonder why it
took me so long to figure out. Now, dinner takes just 5 minutes and
comes second nature to us. Just do it and stop thinking so hard.
You'll be so happy you did it for your pets! ;)
Rachelle in MS

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5. dog with chronic diarrhea
Posted by: "jab48328" jab48328@yahoo.com jab48328
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:22 pm ((PDT))

Hi, It has been forever since I have written. Hope you haven't just
covered this issue. If so, I'm sorry.

I have a rescue Chihuahua whom I took in on September 19th. He took
immediately to rawfeeding. He has eaten exactly what my other dogs
eat, both ground chicken with skin, bone, organs etc., whole chicken,
pork ribs, etc.

He has diarrhea that causes him to strain and it shoots out. For
several days in a row, I even gave him chicken backs to increase the
bone. It has not helped.

He had a fecal test that showed nothing.

Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions about what may help? I am at
a loss and would like to help him.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Jo Anne Bigler

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6a. PLS HELP ME FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH TO FEED AS A MEAL?
Posted by: "angela182548" angela182548@yahoo.com angela182548
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:23 pm ((PDT))

Thanks again for your help... The babies thank you!!
ok I am feeding a 70 lb shepherd/chow mix Charlie ~ a 50 lb
pit/beagle mix Lula Belle ~ 7mo old red nose about 30-35lbs Maycie

Tonight I went to the butcher and got turkey necks, gizzards, and
cows feet ...are cows feet ok? they are pretty cool lookin'...
I was ready to get turkey legs and whole chickens.....but I let some
guy that was in line behind me scare me to death... "chicken bones
splinter...they will get lodged in thier throat...I know, I am a
chef"..blah blah blah. He also said the same about the turkey necks
and legs...but the necks were great.. soft & grissely(sp?) so I guess
the legs would be the same?

Tonight I gave them each a turkey neck .. baby only ate half... and
I gave baby 2 gizzards and lula & charlie 3 gizzards. Is that ok? Is
that good for a meal? They are acting like they are starving though,
they keep coming up to me w/ "that look", Lula even brought me her
bowl. Should I give more?
When I give them boneless meat how much should I use?
Thanks for all of your help, Angela

btw: how do I trim my message? I dont know what that means.

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6b. Re: PLS HELP ME FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH TO FEED AS A MEAL?
Posted by: "katkellm" katkellm@yahoo.com katkellm
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:03 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "angela182548" <angela182548@...>
wrote:
> Tonight I gave them each a turkey neck .. baby only ate half... and
> I gave baby 2 gizzards and lula & charlie 3 gizzards. Is that ok? Is
> that good for a meal? They are acting like they are starving though,

Hi Angela,
You need to feed 2-3% of their ideal adult weight per day. Your 50lb
dog needs to eat about 1lb a day. Your 70lb dog needs to eat about 1
and a half lbs a day. You'll have to decide how big you think your
puppy will be when full grown and figure out what 2% of that expected
weight will be. So, since i don't think turkey necks weigh a pound,
you probably didn't feed enough food. Also, please don't listen to
people in the store. Turkey necks are not a better choice than
chicken. Turkey necks are too bony to be a meal and due to their size
in relation to the size of your dogs they are the kind of food that
encourage stupid eating by a dog--swallow whole and don't stop and
chew. Cows hoofs which are detached from the leg are an ok chew and
have fun thing, but they are not a meal. I would go back to the store
and because you are so nervous about this, i would start with bone in
chicken breasts. They have very easy eating bones in them with enough
meat to be a good meal. Don't worry about boneless meals yet or
organs. Right now you need the bone to keep your dogs' stools firm.
Honestly, people on this list have helped thousands of people begin to
feed raw, and so you need to believe what you read here and not what
you here elsewhere. Cross my heart, KathyM

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7a. Re: Great Prices on chicken
Posted by: "girlndocs" girlndocs@hotmail.com girlndocs
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:24 pm ((PDT))

> we are getting chicken thigh/quarters meat on sale for a week now at
> .49 at 10 lbs bags.... It's at a store called SAARs. I'm not sure if
> this is a chain or not since I am on an island.

You must be in WA -- we have a Saar's Market Place by us too. ("By
us," heh, that would be my German grandmother coming through there ...)

We snagged a couple bags -- would have got more but we don't have a
big freezer yet. Don't know if you've opened yours yet but they're
pretty big quarters, some of them have the backs attached as well (!)
and I found at least one with some ribs and lungs on.

I don't think the wholesale folks even carry chicken this cheap in the
30-lb cases.

Kristin

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8a. Re: Switching to "big"/Gorge-Fast
Posted by: "katkellm" katkellm@yahoo.com katkellm
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:24 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Shannon Hully" <summerwolf@...> wrote:
> so) but I'm wondering how I figure out when he might be ready for that
> sort of a switch.

Hi Shannon,
This is only how it worked out for me, so its not a this is how it
must be done thing--actually i had NO intentions of ever feeding big
meals, so this is how it just kind of unfolded. I fed each protein
for one week before switching to another. So, that was weeks. Then i
started weeks of today is chicken, tomorrow is pork, the next day
turkey... Then, i got really brave (ok, i'm not a very adventuresome
soul)and fed turkey and pork, chicken and beef...at the same meal.
All this took place over about 4 months. When Thanksgiving came
around, i decided I wanted to give each dog a whole turkey. In
preparation for this, for about a week, i varied the portion sizes,
still feeding once a day-a little more one day, a little less the
next...you know kinda mixed it up a bit. I guess what i think is that
once you have fed all types of proteins and all kinds of combos, and
varied your meals sizes you are ready. KathyM

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9a. Re: Is this normal??
Posted by: "tottime47" tottime@aol.com tottime47
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:25 pm ((PDT))

Hi Yassy,

Sometimes they can get a little sick from the 'extras' we give them
and when they are busy trying to digest that little extra, it can
interfer with normal digestion........

Has she munched anything like extra veggies from your plate or maybe
some grass?

If she's doing ok now, I don't think it's anything to really worry
about, just watch the mextra treats.....

Hope this helps a little

Carol, Charkee & Moli

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, Yasuko herron
<sunshine_annamaria@...> wrote:
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> Hi,just a seconds ago,palette vomitted up yelloowish liquid with
pinky nail size of solid stuff.

> Is this normal taking so long to vomit up waht she could not
digest well?
>
> yassy

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10a. Re: duke needs to brush his teeth.
Posted by: "Michelle Grabert" chalienme@yahoo.com chalienme
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:27 pm ((PDT))

Hi, I have seen two terms here and I don't know what they refer too.."wreak" bone and "yarn bone. Can someone please tell me what they are.? Thanks. michelle

iumadness64 <iumadness64@yahoo.com> wrote: I haven't seen any responses that include the 'yarn bone'...maybe since
it isn't a raw item, but considering your post and some talk about
towel shredding, I would think getting a yarn bone from your local pet
store would be a great way for you dog to floss. Every dog I have had
absolutely LOVES theirs. It is good for playing fetch too. Just a
thought.

Mark

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10b. Re: duke needs to brush his teeth.
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:28 pm ((PDT))

Michelle Grabert <chalienme@...> wrote:
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> Hi, I have seen two terms here and I don't know what they refer
too.."wreak" bone and "yarn bone. Can someone please tell me what
they are.?
*****
"Wreck" bones (officially called "rec" or recreation bones) are
called that because the bones generally recommended for such
recreation are beef legs or joints--femurs, marrow bones, soup bones,
knuckles. These bones typically are bare or carry little meat and
are fed solely for gnawing. The problem is, these bones that
supported livestock weighing as much as 2000 pounds are harder than a
dog's teeth and if there is a battle between bone and teeth, teeth
lose. Since rec bones can fracture or break teeth, they're referred
to as "wreck" bones.

A yarn bone, I believe, is a length of rope that's been tied in a
knot at both ends, creating a bone-shaped chew toy with fringe. When
a dog chews the rope, the abrasion cleans the teeth; the fringe may
act like dental floss. They would probably be useful for dogs that
don't feel the need to rip the thing apart.
Chris O

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11a. Re: Gorging---bloat concern?
Posted by: "girlndocs" girlndocs@hotmail.com girlndocs
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:27 pm ((PDT))

Hi Jaala,

> One of my dogs is crazy when it comes to feeding, starts
> foaming at the mouth and turns into dog from hell. Even with bigger
> pieces of meat (chicken halfs, stuff that size) she just kinda bites
> bites then swallows.

That's how she's supposed to be eating :)

Kristin

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12. Raw feeding for Sphynx cats.
Posted by: "sphynxlover2" AST42701@aol.com sphynxlover2
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:32 pm ((PDT))

The reason I ask is because I have two Sphynx. One is a 10 year old
male who was a shelter rescue I've had for a year and a half and the
other is a year old male whom I purchased from a breeder about a month
ago.

I made the switch to completely raw for all my pets about 3 1/2 months
ago, and my older Sphynx loved it. He had previously been free
feeding, but with the raw he quickly adapted to letting me know when
he
was hungry and I'd feed him. Sphynx do eat a bit more than the average
cat due to the higher metabolism required to keep them warm, so I let
them eat as much as they want at every meal. Smeagol, my oldest, was
eating about 5-6 ounces of food per day spread over 3 meals and he
maintains a perfect weight (9.1 lbs) at that ratio. (Though Sphynx
conformation exhibitors would prefer them a little heavier than
Smeagol
is, with slight fat pads under the belly)

Sonny, my youngest and newest boy, joined the family in early
September. He was kibble/raw fed by his breeder before I got him, so
he was already accustomed to raw and had no problem with me ditching
the kibble. He will be 1 year old on October 13th and he eats like a
horse! I adopted the same feeding schedule with him, but he "asks" to
eat anywhere from 4-6 times a day, and always at least 2 ounces of
meat at each feeding-sometimes more! He maintains a perfect "show
weight"
on this schedule (10 lbs-he's a large cat), but doesn't that seem like
a LOT of food? Granted, he is a VERY active cat and if he isn't asleep
then he is on the move, plus he's hairless and he's still young.
Smeagol has begun to eat as often as Sonny, but he eats less at each
meal and still ends up eating about the same amount daily. Yesterday
they went through a 1 1/4 pound game hen in 16 hours. Most of that, of
course, was Sonny.

Sonny had a checkup 2 weeks ago and is comletely healthy and worm
free. Is he eating this much simply because he's young and active? My
vet
does not support raw feeding so I didn't ask her (Though she did tell
me she contacted a "feline specialist" about the raw diet to try to
come up with a rebuttal to my argument and I really laughed when she
said her "specialist" agreed with me!). I do know other Sphynx owners,
but none of them feed raw (not that I haven't tried to convince them).
Any ideas?
Rachelle in MS

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13a. Re: Off topic post from a moderator-Help Needed
Posted by: "tottime47" tottime@aol.com tottime47
Date: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:04 pm ((PDT))

Hi Carrie,

Any way we can send some money without paypal? I no longer have a
paypal acct. long story, and I'm sure others may not either.

Carol, Charkee & Moli

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "cypressbunny" <cypressbunny@...>
wrote:
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> Here is the info to help:
>
> >>Any financial help is appreciated. Money can be pay paled to his
> sister
> at _blhulsman@..._ (mailto:blhulsman@...)
>
>
> --Carrie
>

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