[rawfeeding] Digest Number 12229

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: Happy tails :)
From: Giselle

2a. Re: Feeding whole prey in close quarters???
From: Laurie Swanson
2b. Re: Feeding whole prey in close quarters???
From: carnesbill
2c. Re: Feeding whole prey in close quarters???
From: connie
2d. Re: Feeding whole prey in close quarters???
From: miensasis
2e. Re: Feeding whole prey in close quarters???
From: miensasis

3a. Left some goat out, is it still good?
From: Maria
3b. Re: Left some goat out, is it still good?
From: Laurie Swanson
3c. Re: Left some goat out, is it still good?
From: costrowski75
3d. Re: Left some goat out, is it still good?
From: carnesbill
3e. Re: Left some goat out, is it still good?
From: Maria
3f. Re: Left some goat out, is it still good?
From: Morledzep@aol.com

4a. Re: Theories - Why some will eat Whole Foods & Others Refus
From: Giselle

5.1. Re: New to Raw Feeding
From: girlndocs

6a. soybean question
From: Kim
6b. Re: soybean question
From: Casey Post
6c. Re: soybean question
From: carnesbill
6d. Re: soybean question
From: Sandee Lee
6e. Re: soybean question
From: merril Woolf
6f. Re: soybean question
From: costrowski75
6g. Re: soybean question
From: ginny wilken

7a. Re: still swallowing whole
From: connie

8. Introduction(s)
From: Laura Wimpey

9a. What's the word on peanut butter?
From: marlena_adema
9b. Re: What's the word on peanut butter?
From: Andrea

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1a. Re: Happy tails :)
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 5:49 pm ((PDT))

Hi, Dee!
YaY for you! And Yay for your open minded family!

Keep us updated on your progress.

TC
Giselle
with Bea in New Jersey

On 11/1/07, D. Rajska <d.rajska@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I think so often many of us newbies tend to write to the list only
> when we're stressed out or have a million questions, and I just wanted
> to email with a great feel-good story instead.
>

<snip>
>

Well, success is happening a lot faster than I had hoped! I had spoken to my
> sister about my plans to feed raw, and mentioned why and how.
>

<snip>
>

Well, after a week of seared ribs, she has ventured to turkey, and
> yesterday... she
> finally made the switch, to feeding fully raw, a hunk of lamb!!!
> HOORAY!!! In the meantime, Luna has become calmer, happier, and my sis
> has felt reconnected with her dog, not just because her behaviour has
> improved, but also, because she just feels so much more like a
> nurturer to her now that she is concsiously making choices to offer
> varied, healthy, nourishing food every day.
>

<snip>
> Next episode - Luna tries chicken livers for dessert, this coming
> Saturday. Stay tuned :)
>
> So... Thanks guys. Thanks for all the support and help you have given
> me - my niece loves you for it.
>
> And more good news - last weekend, my sister went to visit my parents,
> and now they're supplementing their Rottweiler puppy's diet with raw
> bones... And eggs from my prents' chickens. They aren't full-out
> switching yet, but this is much more than I had expected at this point
> in time. Stay tuned...
>
> Dee
>
>

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2a. Re: Feeding whole prey in close quarters???
Posted by: "Laurie Swanson" laurie@mckinneyphoto.com las_lala
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 5:56 pm ((PDT))

Hi Nancy,

I have a Boston Terrier and he eats on a towel in the living room in
my small apt. (no yard--large deck, but we have so much cold weather,
I don't make him eat outside). He's very good about keeping his food
on the towel. To train him, I just put his food back on the towel if
he took it off and he figured it out pretty quickly. If I'm feeding
something bigger like a goat leg, I'll put down extra towels to make
his eating space bigger or else it will end up edging onto the carpet
(he moves his food around a bit, turns it over, etc.). I've fed
whole rabbit with no mess (I'm not sure if the organs were inside,
though.). Keep feeding in your kitchen if it's big enough, or put
something down in another room. Some people use washable, vinyl
tablecloths or shower curtains--something like that would be good if
you really want to make sure there's never a speck of anything on
your carpet. I haven't found there to be blood pouring out of
carcasses or body parts or anything, though. :-) If there's excess
blood when I thaw something, I'll usually pour that in a bowl and
feed it.

Does that help?

Laurie

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "miensasis" <kpmnlm@...> wrote:
> The problem I have is this...I
> live in a townhome and do not have a yard. Thus far I've been
> feeding large parts of grocery cuts in my kitchen, but I'd like to
> move as much in the direction of an in-tact prey model as my living
> arrangements will support. For us feeding a whole deer carcass is
> not possible, but is there anyone that feeds smaller whole animals
> (like rabbits) inside their homes? Exactly how messy (i.e. bloody)
> is it?

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2b. Re: Feeding whole prey in close quarters???
Posted by: "carnesbill" carnesw@bellsouth.net carnesbill
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 7:54 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "miensasis" <kpmnlm@...> wrote:
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> is there anyone that feeds smaller whole animals
> (like rabbits) inside their homes? Exactly how messy
> (i.e. bloody) is it?

I have bought skinless whole rabbits for my dogs and feed them
outside. However ... About a year ago my 2 cats drug a rabbit to
the bathroom and prceeded to kill it by beating it against the
wall. :) :) :)

Then they ate it, a freshly killed rabbit still warm. I left them
alone and checked back about an hour later and they were still
eating it. After another hour I checked in the bathroom and found a
small pile of intestines and stomach and a very small clump of fur
and absolutely nothing else. No mess except for a little blood on
the wall where they were throwing it against the wall to kill it.

Weird huh?

Bill Carnes
http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm

Feeding Raw since October 2002

"Unnatural diets predispose animals to unnatural outcomes"
Dr. Tom Lonsdale

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2c. Re: Feeding whole prey in close quarters???
Posted by: "connie" justbullies@hotmail.com bullienut
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 8:50 pm ((PDT))

However ... About a year ago my 2 cats drug a rabbit to
> the bathroom and prceeded to kill it by beating it against the
> wall. :) :) :)
> Weird huh?
>
> Bill Carnes
> http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm
>
> Feeding Raw since October 2002
>
> "Unnatural diets predispose animals to unnatural outcomes"
> Dr. Tom Lonsdale
>
Ya know...I absolutley had the most hilarious vision of 2 cats
holding a rabbit up in the bathroom...lol...and smackin his head on
the wall...am I sick or what?...lol...

It was for a great laugh tho...thanks!
~connie~
and a bunch of bulldogs
www.justbullies.com

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2d. Re: Feeding whole prey in close quarters???
Posted by: "miensasis" kpmnlm@patmedia.net miensasis
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 10:04 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Laurie Swanson" <laurie@...> wrote:
>
Keep feeding in your kitchen if it's big enough, or put
> something down in another room. Some people use washable, vinyl
> tablecloths or shower curtains--something like that would be good if
> you really want to make sure there's never a speck of anything on
> your carpet. >
> Does that help?

Laurie...

YES, that helps a great deal!

Nancy

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2e. Re: Feeding whole prey in close quarters???
Posted by: "miensasis" kpmnlm@patmedia.net miensasis
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 10:05 pm ((PDT))

Bill...

OMG...way weird, although very natural I guess! I am still adjusting
to this whole raw thing. Intellectually I get it and believe it is
the best thing for my little carnivores; BUT there is still that
little part of me that freaks out when I hear my dogs crunching on
bones, or thinks about them ripping and tearing apart a rabbit in the
middle of my kitchen (or in your case--bathroom). I'm not letting
that stop me though--I'm going to push through the weirdness...LOL.

Nancy

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "carnesbill" <carnesw@...> wrote:
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>About a year ago my 2 cats drug a rabbit to the bathroom and
>prceeded to kill it by beating it against the wall. :) :) :)
>
> Then they ate it, a freshly killed rabbit still warm. I left them
> alone and checked back about an hour later and they were still
> eating it. After another hour I checked in the bathroom and found
> a small pile of intestines and stomach and a very small clump of
> fur and absolutely nothing else. No mess except for a little blood
> on the wall where they were throwing it against the wall to kill it.

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3a. Left some goat out, is it still good?
Posted by: "Maria" plava_93@yahoo.com plava_93
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 5:56 pm ((PDT))

Wendesday (around 12PM) I fed the dogs some goat, I had to hack it up
first. It was frozen at the time, my father told me that I left a goat
leg in the basement so it stayed there till about 7:00 Thursday night
when I put it back it the freezer. The basement isn't heated but stays
at around 70 degrees and there aren't any flies or anything. Should it
still be OK?

Thanks!
Maria

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3b. Re: Left some goat out, is it still good?
Posted by: "Laurie Swanson" laurie@mckinneyphoto.com las_lala
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 6:46 pm ((PDT))

I would feed it unless it smells bad, and many people would feed it
even if it stinks.

Laurie

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3c. Re: Left some goat out, is it still good?
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 7:34 pm ((PDT))

"Maria" <plava_93@...> wrote:

> Wendesday (around 12PM) I fed the dogs some goat, I had to hack it
up
> first. It was frozen at the time, my father told me that I left a
goat
> leg in the basement so it stayed there till about 7:00 Thursday
night
> when I put it back it the freezer.
*****
I doubt this is even close to being close to being an issue. I have
done worse, intentionally. No problema.
Chris O

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3d. Re: Left some goat out, is it still good?
Posted by: "carnesbill" carnesw@bellsouth.net carnesbill
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 8:16 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Laurie Swanson" <laurie@...> wrote:
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> I would feed it unless it smells bad, and many people would feed it
> even if it stinks.

Hehe ... I fed some stuff (not exactly sure what) the other night that
it took a whole can of spray and a fan blowing out the kitchen window
for two hours to clean out the smell. :) :) :) No ill effects at
all. Wife pitched a double dog dying duck fit. :) :) :)

Bill Carnes
http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm

Feeding Raw since October 2002

"Unnatural diets predispose animals to unnatural outcomes"
Dr. Tom Lonsdale

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3e. Re: Left some goat out, is it still good?
Posted by: "Maria" plava_93@yahoo.com plava_93
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 8:49 pm ((PDT))

Thanks everybody!! I've only thawed meat over night, I didn't know what
would happen after orver 30 hours out of the fridge or freezer. I have
fed spoild meat (super stinky, room clearing chicken and pork) but it
was in the fridge the whole time. I'm glad to know it's OK. It is a
nice 2 lb hunk that I really wouldn't want to trash.

Maria

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3f. Re: Left some goat out, is it still good?
Posted by: "Morledzep@aol.com" Morledzep@aol.com morledzep
Date: Fri Nov 2, 2007 1:40 am ((PDT))

In a message dated 11/1/2007 4:56:36 PM Pacific Standard Time,
plava_93@yahoo.com writes:

The basement isn't heated but stays
at around 70 degrees and there aren't any flies or anything. Should it
still be OK?

Maria,

even if there were flies or the basement was warmer than 70 degrees it would
still be good, even for humans, but most certainly for dogs.. Dogs eat far
worse than slightly tainted meat all the time with no ill effects.

Dogs drink out of toilets, they lick each other's behinds, they eat the poop
of every animal they come across.. meat that isn't kept below 40 degrees isn't
going to hurt them and probably won't hurt you either as long as it doesn't
stink.

Catherine R.

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4a. Re: Theories - Why some will eat Whole Foods & Others Refus
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 6:11 pm ((PDT))

Hi, Marguerita!
The next logical steps in adapting a dog to eating whole
prey after feeding whole-but-skinned, would be to offer skinned-but-with-the
skin-still-attached, and then partly-skinned - maybe with the skin left on
the head, tail and feet, in either order.

Just like larger bones that are more difficult to consume, I can see that
some dogs might not feel the need to consume skin and fur, apart from the
strangeness and unfamiliarity of it. Fur provides bulk to the stool, needed
or not, maybe it would slow down digestion somewhat. And skin surely has
some nutrition to offer, even if the same nutrients can be obtained from
other body parts.

Hmm, I looked up raw pig ears, which has not only skin but gristle, but
virtually no meatymeat and it seems to be pretty high in protein and fat,
relatively low in water. Seems nutritious to me.
http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/cgi-bin/list_nut_edit.pl

TC
Giselle

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>
>
> ****** Usually the organs have been pulled and then put back
> in....you know the way chickens are at the grocery store, but still
> whole for the most part.
>
> I don't really have any objections to him not eating fur since as you
> said it doesn't serve nutritional purpose. However, it is
> frustrating to occasionally have the "find" of something whole and
> NOT from a grocery store and then not be able to take someone up on
> it. Clearly what I see as a nutritional treasure that is as fresh as
> you can get is not seen as the treasure by my dog.
>
> Marguerita
>
>
>

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5.1. Re: New to Raw Feeding
Posted by: "girlndocs" girlndocs@hotmail.com girlndocs
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 6:46 pm ((PDT))

Hi Jennifer,

I once spent two days standing in front of my sink, flinging gobs of
raw chicken over my shoulder and saying "oops!" while I pretended not
to notice Zoe eating them.

*fling* "oops!" *splat* *snarf*
*fling* "oops!" *splat* *snarf*
*fling* "oops!" *splat* *snarf*

I'm kinda glad my neighbors can't see in my kitchen window ...

Kristin

>I picked up the plate, got out some good
> sharp scissors, and proceeded to cut it into chunks on the counter, as
> if I was making food for me and hubby. She was mesmerized! I grabbed
> a small chunk and said "Well, Ok...but only one for you" as I gave it
> to her.....GULP.

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6a. soybean question
Posted by: "Kim" khkern@yahoo.com khkern
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 7:36 pm ((PDT))

Hi guys,
I know that as a carnivore my dog doesn't need veggies, but will a few
steamed soybeans as a snack or treat hurt the dog? I often eat
soybeans (Edamame)and the dogs love a few as a snack. I know the dog
doesn't get anything nutritionally from them, but is it ok to let him
have a few occasionally?

Thanks,
Kim Gardner

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6b. Re: soybean question
Posted by: "Casey Post" mikken@neo.rr.com mikkeny
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 8:10 pm ((PDT))

> I often eat
> soybeans (Edamame)and the dogs love a few as a snack. I know the dog
> doesn't get anything nutritionally from them, but is it ok to let him
> have a few occasionally?

Um, I can't answer this one objectively...I'm in the "soy is evil" camp...

Casey

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6c. Re: soybean question
Posted by: "carnesbill" carnesw@bellsouth.net carnesbill
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 8:17 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Kim" <khkern@...> wrote:
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> I know the dog
> doesn't get anything nutritionally from them, but is it ok to
> let him have a few occasionally?
>
Sure, go for it.

Bill Carnes
http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm

Feeding Raw since October 2002

"Unnatural diets predispose animals to unnatural outcomes"
Dr. Tom Lonsdale

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6d. Re: soybean question
Posted by: "Sandee Lee" rlee@plix.com mariasmom2001
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 8:23 pm ((PDT))

Soy as a treat or snack probably isn't harmful to either of you....more than
that, I would be concerned for both of you! :)

Sandee & the Dane Gang

From: "Kim" <khkern@yahoo.com>

I know that as a carnivore my dog doesn't need veggies, but will a few
steamed soybeans as a snack or treat hurt the dog? I often eat
soybeans (Edamame)and the dogs love a few as a snack. I know the dog
doesn't get anything nutritionally from them, but is it ok to let him
have a few occasionally?

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6e. Re: soybean question
Posted by: "merril Woolf" merril@kentfieldwhippets.com whippetsrus2002
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 10:04 pm ((PDT))

>
> Um, I can't answer this one objectively...I'm in the "soy is evil" camp...
>
> Casey

Me too.
I lecture my friends if they even think about eating or drinking anything with soy in it.

I can't imagine feeding it to my dogs....even as a treat. It's an evil food...

I have my fingers in my ears and I refuse to think about this anymore. ;-)))

Merril

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6f. Re: soybean question
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 10:10 pm ((PDT))

"Casey Post" <mikken@...> wrote:
> Um, I can't answer this one objectively...I'm in the "soy is evil"
camp...
>
*****
Um, yeah, me too. Soy in any form is not what I want to put into my
dogs.
Chris O

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6g. Re: soybean question
Posted by: "ginny wilken" gwilken@alamedanet.net ginny439
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 11:43 pm ((PDT))

On Nov 1, 2007, at 9:14 PM, Casey Post wrote

Um, I can't answer this one objectively...I'm in the "soy is evil"
camp...
>
> Casey

Me, too, but I think I'm being perfectly objective:)

ginny

All stunts performed without a net!

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7a. Re: still swallowing whole
Posted by: "connie" justbullies@hotmail.com bullienut
Date: Thu Nov 1, 2007 8:17 pm ((PDT))

> Please tell me what exactly should I give her for dinner?
She won't
> self-regulate. Maybe large chunk of beef/pork ribs? Goat leg? She
> will tackle these with gusto. Big pieces one day then on the next day
> a piece of kidney with gizzard? I'm lost.
>
> Silvina

Hi Silvina,
I have english and mini bulldogs. Everyone of them eats differently. I
don`t always give big meaty bones to eat. They get quartered chicken
about 3-4 days a week. The other meats I get like beef tongue I
realized my dogs cannot tear it up because the front top teeth are so
far pushed in and when I examined inside their mouths...whoa...they
have a mess of bunched up teeth..everyone of them has their own unique
mass display all shoved into the back of their mouths. I give them
irregular pieces of beef and pork...but not so big they choke. I also
cut off all solid chunks of fat..ie:beef brisket,lamb and pork ribs.
But I make up for it with a beef rib for desert. They have no problem
with chicken and rabbit bones. But Henry I have to give 1/2 chicken
instead of a quarter...he`s a gulper. I just examined my dogs teeth the
other day again and they all have very nice white healthy teeth. I also
purchase the bully sticks(all natural) to make up for any meat tearing.
The redmeat is the toughest for my bulldogs..the rest is fine.
If you have any other questions on the snub nosed breeds you can
contact me off line also.
~connie~
and a bunch of bulldogs.
www.justbullies.com

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8. Introduction(s)
Posted by: "Laura Wimpey" laura.wimpey@yahoo.com laura.wimpey
Date: Fri Nov 2, 2007 6:24 am ((PDT))

Hello all,

This'll be a long introduction, I'll go ahead and say that.

I just joined the list this week and here's why: I've got four fur babies; two cats and two dogs. They are all on a blue buffalo ki**le (as I've seen it typed here) diet. I'm ready to wisen up and switch to BARF. I load them up with acidophilus and omega-3's and I whine and moan about the evils of dry foods but I've never done anything about it. Shame on me. But it's not too late! Here's a breakdown of the kritturs:

Elias (Eli): 3 year old rescue mix of something that looks like a labradoodle, 55 lbs, all white with peanut butter colored freckles on his ears and one coffee mug-sized peanut butter spot on his back. Weird eh. Anyway, he's got the temperment of a golden retriver and the energy level of a sloth until we get to the forest or Cool School for Dogs, raw diet will work wonders for allergies which aren't currently bad but could be
Maggie: 1+ year old tri-colored English Setter (field type, Llewellin, kinda smalllish for a setter) 31 lbs, energy and intensity of a t-rex, body of a gazelle, raw diet would do wonders for her, sweet but shy
Chloe: Domestic longhair resuce cat, 7 years old, just a plain old witch but we love her
Hyde: Domestic rescue flame point siamese, 3 years, a lot like maggie in temperment, sleeps on your head at night until you get upset and push him off at which point he'll pad around the house for 3 minutes making strange noises of protest and then he'll return to perch on your head again, cooing softly with purrs and starting the process all over again.

Me & Hubby: Laura & Caleb, I'm the driving force behind seeking a raw diet but Caleb supports wholeheartedly, love our family but no kids of our own, only married 4 years, just moved to East TN from Asheville, NC.

I want to absorb everything I can about raw diets. I'll ask lots of annoyingly simple questions but I know you'll all be a great help.

Regards,

Laura Wimpey

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9a. What's the word on peanut butter?
Posted by: "marlena_adema" marlena_adema@yahoo.ca marlena_adema
Date: Fri Nov 2, 2007 6:33 am ((PDT))

I stuff about 1 tablespoon of natural peanut butter in my dog's Kong
to get her into her kennel each night. She just loves it! But I'm
wondering what is the general consensus on pb - is it okay?

BTW, I have also stuffed ground chicken and froze it, as per
suggestions I've read here. She loves that too, but pb has become her
night-time treat....

Marlena

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9b. Re: What's the word on peanut butter?
Posted by: "Andrea" poketmouse45@yahoo.com poketmouse45
Date: Fri Nov 2, 2007 6:37 am ((PDT))

Peanut butter certainly isn't part of a species appropriate diet, but
not all treats have to be raw foods. As puppies my boys loved pb
stuffed kongs but they lost interest in them after a while.

Andrea

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "marlena_adema" <marlena_adema@...>
wrote:
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> I stuff about 1 tablespoon of natural peanut butter in my dog's
> Kong to get her into her kennel each night. She just loves it!
> But I'm wondering what is the general consensus on pb - is it okay?

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