[rawfeeding] Digest Number 11996

There are 4 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: Need Advice on what to order?
From: Morledzep@aol.com

2. New with questions about specific meat cuts
From: Pepper

3a. Re: Coyotes
From: steph.sorensen

4a. Re: performance dogs
From: Linda H. Gower

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1a. Re: Need Advice on what to order?
Posted by: "Morledzep@aol.com" Morledzep@aol.com morledzep
Date: Tue Sep 4, 2007 1:56 am ((PDT))

In a message dated 9/3/2007 10:59:32 PM Pacific Standard Time,
bbryant573@gmail.com writes:

If they are an "inspected plant" that's a good thing right? And I'm
not looking for bone meal am I? And right now I have my dogs on
turkey and the last 2 days they've gotten a little bit of boneless
pork steaks. What shouId I tell her? I don't know if they do chicken
or not. I think just beef and pork. I need to look at their website
again.

Brandi,

yes.. inspected plants are a good thing. you're not looking for bone meal,
you're looking for whole parts of animals. whole pork legs are usually cheap..
think in terms of shoulder clods, or whole briskets or whole legs, or
shoulder roasts..

one bone or less, lots of meat.. with a good workout for the dogs when they
eat it..

Catherine R.

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2. New with questions about specific meat cuts
Posted by: "Pepper" pepperanne14@yahoo.com pepperanne14
Date: Tue Sep 4, 2007 4:00 am ((PDT))

Hi there,

I am a new member from Southern Ontario and I have some questions that I will break up into a few emails with relevant subject lines.

I have a 2 year old Chihuahua who is currently on kibble and she's getting chicken wings to start off with... she seems to have taken to that quite easily.

I also have a 6 month old Weimaraner that is on Fromm kibble and also started on raw pheasant patties and chicken wings and thighs. She has urinary tract issues that the vet is unsure about and so she put her on antibiotics for an entire month...

I would like to switch them both to an all raw diet but I have some questions I need answered first...

Can someone tell me specifically what cuts I am supposed to be looking for (in regards to the larger dog)? I can get beef from the butcher but I need to know what to ask for. I can also get elk and buffalo and chicken easily. I buy tripe in a can.

I would prefer to keep the costs around the same as buying premium kibble if possible so any suggestion on how I can save some money without adding 'crud' would be most helpful (I am pretty sure that rules out prime ribs lol).

Also, when one buys chicken backs for the dogs are they supposed to look meaty? I looked at some that they were selling for soups but they just looked like bones to me.

So that's my first bunch of questions.. I am pretty sure I know how much to feed it's just the buying of meats that I am unsure of. So a list of meat/bone cuts and the names of recreational bones only....and the things that a butcher/farm might have available but that isn't typical sold for human consumption but is great for dogs.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
Annabel

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Pep

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3a. Re: Coyotes
Posted by: "steph.sorensen" steph.sorensen@yahoo.com steph.sorensen
Date: Tue Sep 4, 2007 4:32 am ((PDT))

Just a short note in regards to this discussion (while I realize it
should be moved to rawchat): I AM a scientist - I have a Masters
degree in Biology, and reading the article on the Amiza site made me
laugh. They are simply making "empty" statements. They provide no
evidence of the study they claim to have done. Their only "evidence"
is vague percentages, and they don't go into detail about what
conditions developed, or how they determined that it was diet change
that either caused or solved the problems. The biggest problem with
that article is no references were provided either. References
indicate that literature research has been conducted, which provides
further backing to a study.

Bottom line: this article is nothing more than a scare tactic, unless
true evidence, backed by solid, unbiased research can be provided.

The genetic article, however, was insightful and intriguing. I'll
have to read that one again.

-Steph
Scarlet
Lucy
Minkey

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, Morledzep@... wrote:
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>
> In a message dated 9/3/2007 8:14:09 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> rondarosa@... writes:
>
> Anyway, I also just realized this list probably isn't the place for
me
> because we are supposed to discuss only diet here and it seems to
me that a dog's
> health has to do with more than just his diet. Guess I am
interested in a
> General Practitioner instead of a specialist, so to speak.
>
>
>
> Wanda,
>
> don't know if you're still here or not.. but i want you to
understand that
> this list is exactly the place for you and our sister list
Rawchat. the more
> abstract ideas generally get discussed over there. The more hands
on, how to
> questions about feeding a species appropriate diet are discussed
here.
>
> i tried to read that article.. i'm no scientist and i freely admit
it.
> NOTHING in that article makes sense to me. i think that some
scientists add in
> extra symbols and numbers to make things look legitimate and to
impress lay
> people.
>
> And the articles i sent were simple to read in plain English that
stated with
> facts to back it up, that grey wolves and red wolves have almost
nothing in
> common and true red wolves have been extinct in the wild for about
20 years and
> are more closely related to coyotes than grey wolves.
>

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4a. Re: performance dogs
Posted by: "Linda H. Gower" pudeltime@bellsouth.net pudeltime
Date: Tue Sep 4, 2007 6:00 am ((PDT))

Thanks Kaitlin,

Don't think I'll come across any mooose meat here in TN, but I do have some venison - that can be their meaty meals thru the trial weekends. I'll have enough of that for this fall anyway.

Thanks for the input. He expends tons of energy on trial weekends and he's a fast boy, don't want anything to slow him down!

--
Linda H. Gower
Mid TN
Lance (SP) AX, AXJ, Delta Pet Partner
Chase, (MP) OA, AXJ

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