[rawfeeding] Digest Number 11750

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: Very sick puppy
From: tottime47

2a. Re: Need Help. PLEASE
From: Casey Post
2b. Re: Need Help. PLEASE
From: Anntiga@aol.com
2c. Re: Need Help. PLEASE
From: Kathy McCusker
2d. Re: Need Help. PLEASE
From: Shannon Parker
2e. Re: Need Help. PLEASE
From: Casey Post
2f. Need Help. PLEASE
From: Laurel-Anne Gordon
2g. Re: Need Help. PLEASE
From: carnesbill

3a. I Finally Took The Plunge (sorry long)
From: Maiakitas@aol.com
3b. Re: I Finally Took The Plunge (sorry long)
From: carnesbill

4a. Re: The hurls
From: tottime47

5a. GTA meat buying group
From: Shannon Parker
5b. Re: GTA meat buying group
From: Jean

6a. Re: Our 2nd week on raw. Refusing turkey please help
From: Bumble1994@aol.com
6b. Re: Our 2nd week on raw. Refusing turkey please help
From: Shireen

7a. Re: Abbreviations
From: Bearhair
7b. Re: Abbreviations
From: Giselle
7c. Re: Abbreviations
From: Jeannine
7d. Re: Abbreviations
From: ginny wilken
7e. Re: Abbreviations
From: Giselle
7f. Re: Abbreviations
From: Jeannine

8a. Re: Howdy!
From: costrowski75

9a. Re: different cuts of ribs - and lamb/goat cuts
From: costrowski75

10a. Ground beef
From: trayc2244

11a. Re: Advice re: softest bones?
From: Samantha Morris

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1a. Re: Very sick puppy
Posted by: "tottime47" tottime@aol.com tottime47
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 2:59 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "chamelett2003"
<chamelett2003@...> wrote:
Oh, I never thought of cooked food being harder to digest. I am so
afraid of giving her raw with all the bacteria on it. I will try to
find the slippery elm

Thanks,Jill
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Hi Jill,

Glad to hear she's doing so well..........

As long as the chicken is safe for your family, it's safe for
her........I wouldn't worry about any bacteria.

There are lots of back posts explaining how cooking the food changes
the proteins it in and how it's so much harder for a dog to digest
it..........
Maybe, just do some reading when you get time....

That's why this list and these great people are here, to help us
learn how to feed raw!

Carol & Charkee

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2a. Re: Need Help. PLEASE
Posted by: "Casey Post" mikken@neo.rr.com mikkeny
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 3:16 pm ((PDT))

> Hi, I just fed Jagger his supper. He ate 3 chicken thighs and 1
> breast. He ate it with gusto and then went outside and threw it all
> up. It didn't look like he chewed any of it. Now he is looking for
> more to eat. Is this normal or am I doing something wrong. If he is
> hungry should I feed him again?Kathy

Kathy,

This can happen ... it's not a horrible thing, more of the stomach being
"surprised" by the sudden appearance of food (and maybe cold food - some
animals are more sensitive to food temp than others).

Did he make any move to re-eat what he tossed at all?

Casey

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2b. Re: Need Help. PLEASE
Posted by: "Anntiga@aol.com" Anntiga@aol.com anntiga
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 4:03 pm ((PDT))

Hi!

He could actually eat what he just threw up. For dogs, sometimes they have
to eat it twice. If Jagger is new to raw feeding, you might want to feed him
less thighs and more breasts. For a dog just getting used to raw feeding,
sometimes a few thigh legs can be harder to digest.

If you have already cleaned up, if it were me, I would give Jagger a breast.

Good luck.

Ann and Norman
San Francisco Peninsula, CA, USA

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2c. Re: Need Help. PLEASE
Posted by: "Kathy McCusker" kmccusker72@hotmail.com kathym14456
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 4:03 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Casey Post" <mikken@...> wrote:
>

Hi Casey, yes he would have eaten it again if I didn't stop him.
Totally grossed me out. The chiken thighs were still slightly
frozen, I had soaked them in warm water but maybe not long enough. I
defrosted some more and made sure they were warm. He ate them slower
and I didn't feed as much. I want to make sure they stay down. He is
looking for more to eat. Thanks for the quick reply, I'm not really
sure I'm doing the right thing and still need reasurrance. Thanks
again, Kathy

>
>
> > Hi, I just fed Jagger his supper. He ate 3 chicken thighs and 1
> > breast. He ate it with gusto and then went outside and threw it
all
> > up. It didn't look like he chewed any of it. Now he is looking
for
> > more to eat. Is this normal or am I doing something wrong. If he
is
> > hungry should I feed him again?Kathy
>
>
> Kathy,
>
> This can happen ... it's not a horrible thing, more of the stomach
being
> "surprised" by the sudden appearance of food (and maybe cold food -
some
> animals are more sensitive to food temp than others).
>
> Did he make any move to re-eat what he tossed at all?
>
> Casey
>

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2d. Re: Need Help. PLEASE
Posted by: "Shannon Parker" mrbatisse@yahoo.ca mrbatisse
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 4:15 pm ((PDT))

Hi Kathy,

My Argentine Dogo did the exact same thing for the first time today. He ate his chicken leg quarters fast (like usual) and they came right back up on my living room floor (I know, ew) fully intact,about 5 mins after. He wouldn't touch with all the stomach juices, but I washed it all off, cut it up into smaller pieces and he was just fine with it. I watched him carefully to make sure he wasn't going to choke on any of the smaller pieces. I'm not sure what brought it on, but he's eating everything fine now.

Shannon

Casey Post <mikken@neo.rr.com> wrote:

> Hi, I just fed Jagger his supper. He ate 3 chicken thighs and 1
> breast. He ate it with gusto and then went outside and threw it all
> up. It didn't look like he chewed any of it. Now he is looking for
> more to eat.

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2e. Re: Need Help. PLEASE
Posted by: "Casey Post" mikken@neo.rr.com mikkeny
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 4:31 pm ((PDT))

> Hi Casey, yes he would have eaten it again if I didn't stop him.
> Totally grossed me out.

Ah, yeah, it's a dog thing. You could have let him re-eat them with no
worries - something to keep in mind for the future. Way easier to let the
dog clean up after himself, in my experience! Totally revolting from a
human point of view, of course, but perfectly normal dog behavior...

>The chiken thighs were still slightly
> frozen, I had soaked them in warm water but maybe not long enough. I
> defrosted some more and made sure they were warm. He ate them slower
> and I didn't feed as much. I want to make sure they stay down. He is
> looking for more to eat.

Sounds like no biggie, then. Normal dog response to cold food happening too
fast for the stomach's comfort zone and it got designated as "return to
sender". <shrug> Happens.

>Thanks for the quick reply, I'm not really
> sure I'm doing the right thing and still need reasurrance.

It's scary in the early days, sure. Doing anything new like this where
you're taking on a serious responsibility can be daunting, I get that.
Heck, I still remember my first night feeding raw - I woke the dogs up every
hour to make sure that they were still breathing. By about 4am, they were
starting to get ticked with me disturbing their sleep...needless to say,
they survived...

Casey

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2f. Need Help. PLEASE
Posted by: "Laurel-Anne Gordon" laragord@telus.net tueschee2
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 6:13 pm ((PDT))

> Hi, I just fed Jagger his supper. He ate 3 chicken thighs and 1
> breast. He ate it with gusto and then went outside and threw it all
> up. It didn't look like he chewed any of it.

He would have to chew it if it was frozen - and many of us would see
if he would eat the regurgitated meat later.

Laurel-Anne

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2g. Re: Need Help. PLEASE
Posted by: "carnesbill" carnesw@bellsouth.net carnesbill
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 8:04 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy McCusker" <kmccusker72@...>
wrote:
>
> He ate it with gusto and then went outside and threw it all
> up.

As you have found out by now, its not unusual for newly switched dogs
to throw up and eat it again. IMO its because they haven't learned
how much to chew it or how small to break up the bones. They do
better the 2nd time. Let him re-eat it and all is well. This
behavior will decrease as the dog learns how to eat real food.

Bill Carnes
http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm

Feeding Raw since October 2002

"Unnatural diets predispose animals to unnatural outcomes"
Dr. Tom Lonsdale

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3a. I Finally Took The Plunge (sorry long)
Posted by: "Maiakitas@aol.com" Maiakitas@aol.com maiakitas
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 4:10 pm ((PDT))

HI All,

Today is the 1st of the month so I took the plunge and finally did it. I gave
my Akitas, currently down to 2 dogs, raw food. Oh my goodness....they
didn't just drop over dead! :o) I gave them each a split breast, whatever the heck
that means. Each was a couple ounces over a pound. I put them each in a pen
and went to work on the chicken. I took off the skin, gave each breast a couple
of wacks with a hammer, pulled it apart a little bit and gave it to them.
After staring in their bowls for awhile, obviously thinking what the heck is this,
they each hesitantly took their respective breast out of the clean bowl onto
the ground. The male first took his into the back of his house and I thought,
oh shoot, I'm going have to climb in that dogloo to get it out, but after
going in and out a few times, he brought it back out. He then kept touching it
very gently with his big OLE foot and pushing it around and finally laid down and
took his time and ate it. My bitch, after staring at her dish for an
eternity, I decided to hand it took her and it was like a light bulb went off. She
also took her time chewing until she was finished.

After they were done, they both were looking at me with that I'm still hungry
look, so I gave them each 2 wings each, which they promptly ate.

How did I do? Was I supposed to take the skin off? Also I think how much they
each need to eat per day. They are both just two and Bailey the bitch weighs
80 lbs, perfect weight for her so I figure she will probably need 2- 2.5 lbs a
day. Beau, the dog is about 115 and he is a bit thin, so I guess I will have
to play with his percentage but will start around 3-3.5lbs.

Neither dog has any health issues. I understand to keep them on one protein
for a week or more to hopefully avoid the dreaded upset tummy. One last
thought, Beau, who is not much of a chow hound, looked quite happy while he was
eating and definitely wanted more. Bailey eats everything so not an issue, but she
did seem to enjoy hers too.

Any other thought, prayers, suggestions would be greatly appreciated. PHEW!!

Regards,
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3b. Re: I Finally Took The Plunge (sorry long)
Posted by: "carnesbill" carnesw@bellsouth.net carnesbill
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 8:06 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, Maiakitas@... wrote:

> I took off the skin, gave each breast a couple
> of wacks with a hammer, pulled it apart a little bit and gave
> it to them.

Forget the hammer and pulling apart. They are 2yo Akitas. They can
handle chicken parts or a whole chicken for that matter.

> After they were done, they both were looking at me with that
> I'm still hungry
> look, so I gave them each 2 wings each, which they promptly ate.

It's pretty common for dogs to want more raw food. My 2 Danes are
will eat as long as I give out parts. :) Wings are too small for
dogs the size of yours. They can swallow them whole and they CAN
become a choking hazzard. Feed parts they really have to chew up
before they swallow them. If you have more wings either eat them
yourself or watch them closely and don't get any more.

> How did I do?

All in all you did great except for the two things I mentioned. You
would learn those in time anyway.

> Was I supposed to take the skin off?

Most people don't unless the dogs are having digestive problems.
Skin is part of the animal and as such, should be fed unless your
dogs are having problems. It wouldn't hurt to wait a week or so to
begin feeding skin or you could gradually up the amount of skin fed
or you could just begin feeding skin and hope for the best. They
will probably be able to handle it ok.

> Also I think how much they
> each need to eat per day.

You will probably stop worrying so much about pounds and start
thinking about items. For example, with my dogs, either 1 or 2
chicken quarters is a meal depending on how heavy they look (both
the quarters and the dogs). Same with turkey necks or anything
else. You will feed by the item and not by pounds.

> Neither dog has any health issues. I understand to keep them
> on one protein
> for a week or more to hopefully avoid the dreaded upset tummy.

Correct. :)

> Any other thought, prayers, suggestions would be
> greatly appreciated. PHEW!!

Just keep it up. It will be a little awkward until you work out
routines and methods and figure out the easiest way to pack them and
learn how to shop for dog food now. In a couple of months it will
become second nature to you.

Bill Carnes
http://www.skylarzack.com/rawfeeding.htm

Feeding Raw since October 2002

"Unnatural diets predispose animals to unnatural outcomes"
Dr. Tom Lonsdale

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4a. Re: The hurls
Posted by: "tottime47" tottime@aol.com tottime47
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 4:15 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "mob1043" <ynotbeastar@> wrote:

> It looks like bits of bone and organ, but it sure smells! The
turkey vultures that fly above our house love it!
>
> Michele

Michele,

As long as it's not every meal...

Sounds like it's just the extra bone that his tummy doesn't like.....

Sometimes bones just sit there and finally the tummy decides they
aren't needed and they gotta come out, one end or the other...

Try a few meatier meals and see if he throws any of them up..

At least you got turkey vultures to help with cleanup, lol..

Carol & Charkee

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5a. GTA meat buying group
Posted by: "Shannon Parker" mrbatisse@yahoo.ca mrbatisse
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 4:54 pm ((PDT))

Hi All of those in the greater Toronto area,

I just wanted to give a heads up that I found a great source of organ meat at highland markets in Stoney Creek. It's located at the corner of Highland and Tapley Town Road (on the mountain).

In the front entrance there is a freezer containing frozen organ mixtures..5 lb for 4 dollars. It is a mixture of liver, lung, spleen and kidney (all beef I believe) and the frozen mixture is cut into manageable cubes that can be taken out of the freezer as needed.

I just thought I would let anyone in the area know so that they can stock up.

Take care,

Shannon

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5b. Re: GTA meat buying group
Posted by: "Jean" zululhw@yahoo.ca zululhw
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 11:25 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, Shannon Parker <mrbatisse@...>
wrote:
>
>
> I just wanted to give a heads up that I found a great source of
organ meat at highland markets in Stoney Creek. It's located at the
corner of Highland and Tapley Town Road (on the mountain).
>

****
Hi Shannon,

Thanks for the heads up. Much appreciated.

Jean, Kira, Strider & Mowgli

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6a. Re: Our 2nd week on raw. Refusing turkey please help
Posted by: "Bumble1994@aol.com" Bumble1994@aol.com bumble1994
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 4:55 pm ((PDT))

In a message dated 7/1/2007 5:59:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
_quiltsnmosaics@yahoo.com _ (mailto:quiltsnmosaics@yahoo.com?Subject=
Re:%20Our%202nd%20week%20on%20raw.%20Refusing%20turkey%20please%20help) writes:

Was it basted or injected with some type of
> preservative solution (most seem to be).

Yes

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6b. Re: Our 2nd week on raw. Refusing turkey please help
Posted by: "Shireen" quiltsnmosaics@yahoo.com quiltsnmosaics
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 9:14 pm ((PDT))

Just wanted to say thanks for replies. I did cook the turkey somewhat
and I did debone, as I was concerned since some were no longer raw. A
little seasoning did the trick as well. I think she probably knows
what she should or shoulldn't be eating instictively. Won't do turkey
for a while.

Thanks again.
Shireen

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7a. Re: Abbreviations
Posted by: "Bearhair" bearhair@spamcop.net bearhair61
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 5:34 pm ((PDT))

Linda wrote:

>I notice a lot of you use abbre. Is there a list some where? I don't have a clue what you are talking about.

RMB is raw meaty bones

I can't think of any others right now . . . whatcha need?

Lora
Evanston, IL

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7b. Re: Abbreviations
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 6:33 pm ((PDT))

Um, the most recent one I've used is SEBP - Slippery Elm Bark Powder.
I don't know that anyone has compiled a list. You just tend to pick
them up (or make 'em up) as you go along to save yourself time typing. ; )
Can you post the abbreviations that are confounding you?
TC
Giselle
with Bea in New Jersey

> Linda wrote:
>
> >I notice a lot of you use abbre. Is there a list some where? I
don't have a clue what you are talking about.
>
> RMB is raw meaty bones
>
> I can't think of any others right now . . . whatcha need?
>
> Lora
> Evanston, IL
>

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7c. Re: Abbreviations
Posted by: "Jeannine" rosewhatley@msn.com eastexgranny
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 6:33 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, Bearhair <bearhair@...> wrote:
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> Linda wrote:
>
> >I notice a lot of you use abbre. Is there a list some where? I
don't have a clue what you are talking about.
>
> RMB is raw meaty bones
>
> I can't think of any others right now . . . whatcha need?
>
> Lora
> Evanston, IL
>
How about GSD?? What is that?
Jeannine

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7d. Re: Abbreviations
Posted by: "ginny wilken" gwilken@alamedanet.net ginny439
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 6:41 pm ((PDT))

On Jul 1, 2007, at 6:16 PM, Jeannine wrote:

> How about GSD?? What is that?
> Jeannine
>

German Shepherd Dog

ginny and Tomo, an AST:)

All stunts performed without a net!

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7e. Re: Abbreviations
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 6:45 pm ((PDT))

If you go to the website and type abbreviations into the search box,
you'll find a lot of threads with Qs & As about the subject.
; )
Giselle

> > How about GSD?? What is that?
> > Jeannine
> >
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> German Shepherd Dog
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> ginny and Tomo, an AST:)
>
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> All stunts performed without a net!
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7f. Re: Abbreviations
Posted by: "Jeannine" rosewhatley@msn.com eastexgranny
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 7:06 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Giselle" <megan.giselle@...>
wrote:
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> If you go to the website and type abbreviations into the search box,
> you'll find a lot of threads with Qs & As about the subject.
> ; )
> Giselle
>
> > > How about GSD?? What is that?
> > > Jeannine
> > >
> >
> >
> > German Shepherd Dog
> >
> >
> > ginny and Tomo, an AST:)
> > > > All stunts performed without a net!

Thanks Giselle, sooner or later I'll familarize myself with all the
terms here!
Jeannine
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8a. Re: Howdy!
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 6:10 pm ((PDT))

"sazkeeper" <sazkeeper@...> wrote:

I have two
> GSD - Bodo and Bart, a very elderly cat and a pair of genets
(mammal-
> wise, at least.) I just switched the two dogs to raw...so far, so
> good. Right now they are both eating chicken backs, a little yogurt
> in the morning, fish oil, and nupro joint supplement.
*****
Here's the deal: you have big dogs. What you are currently feeding
is not optimal for big dogs. In fact, though your choices absolutely
get your dogs away kibble (which is a very good thing indeed) they
can use some adjusting. You can--easily--do better for your GSDs.

Chicken backs should be upgraded to chicken leg quarters at the very
least; chicken halves would be better yet. Your dogs are certainly
capable of eating whole chickens, but since they're more ready for
raw than you are, you got time.

What you can do right now to those backs though is add meat. When I
feed chicken backs to my retrievers, I add them to substantial meaty
meals (yesterday each dog got two pounds of beef, some beef spleen
and a chicken back).

Chicken backs can be feed solo if you also feed generous portions of
meat elsewhere in the diet. Meat rules a good raw diet. Bones are
essential but they do not run the show.

A little yogurt in the morning is lovely for humans but for your dogs
it is meaningless. Maybe even worse, if your dogs are lactose
intolerant. Feed it knowing that once yogurt hits your dogs'
digestive soup, the yogurt dies. If you need to feed a probiotic,
choose one that's delivered via a capsule that can make it through to
the intestines, where perhaps the probiotic will have a chance to
strut its stuff.

And Nupro is a supplement that at best supports a kibblefed dog. For
a raw fed dog, the ingredients are either redundant or completely
unnecessary. The only supplement worth considering at this point is
fish body oil or Salmon oil, for the Omega 3 fatty acids. If you
need to feed glucosamine/chondroitin, first know that they occur
naturally in ALL movable joints, and second, if you prefer to use a
supplement, buy human grade and keep it simple

not too sure if I will switch Bullet, my cat, as he
> is 17 yrs old and doesn't have too many teeth left. Any advice in
> that area?
*****
I suggest you subscribe to RawCat, where cats--as is their wont--
reign supreme.

One thing I have already run into is the training treat thing, but I
> see there is a file on the subject. I haven't read it all the way
> through - does it have detailed cooking instructions for the liver?
*****
The Rawfeeding list is not the place to discuss detailed cooking
instructions for anything! Please right now before you get into it
take all treat-making questions to RawChat. If you ask such
questions here your posts will be drawn and quartered and flung to
the four winds.

I hope I get a lot
> from this resource!
*****
You might browse the list message archives. Hard NOT to get a lot
from them.

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9a. Re: different cuts of ribs - and lamb/goat cuts
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 6:50 pm ((PDT))

"Jessie" <O_snobunnie_O@...> wrote:
> about how much do typical goats weigh? (silly question I know...
still
> something I've not had the pleasure of dealing with yet)
*****
Dressed out, maybe 45 pounds. Somewhere around there.

> I think when I call in the order I'll ask if I can get half of the
six
> way goat... maybe try lamb next time (I hear it tends to be very rich
> and takes some adjusting to?).
*****
If the 6-cut goat comes in a case, you may have trouble convincing the
Meat Dude to split the order for you; but it can't hurt to ask! The
goat I get, the box is barely larger than a case of chicken backs or
necks.

I don't think lamb is any harder to adjust to than pork. Or beef for
that matter. I think the fat is what throws the dog off, and too much
fat is a dog by dog judgement. Perhaps you might introduce it as part
of a larger meal, just some cut up meat, nothing startling.

*oh, off topic but can you just add a signature somewhere?
*****
Nope. You get to rely on your good old self to remember to sign your
posts.
Chris O

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10a. Ground beef
Posted by: "trayc2244" BreeZ119@catt.com trayc2244
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 8:36 pm ((PDT))

I called my butcher and asked them to bag up 30 packs of scrap meat
for me the other day. I ran in and got it, so I didn't check it out
before I left. When I got home to put it in the freezer I noticed that
most of it was ground beef. Is ground beef okay to feed?

Thanks,
Tracy

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11a. Re: Advice re: softest bones?
Posted by: "Samantha Morris" smmastai@yahoo.com smmastai
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 10:02 pm ((PDT))

Sorry for not signing my email. Yes I have been
feeding whole animals, specifically whole chickens,
duck, turkey and on occasion, rabbit. I got the
oxtail cut into 2 pieces and also tried lamb ribs this
weekend. I know the ribs contain a fair amount of
bone so I will try to get a meatier piece of the
animal next time.

My question re. poultry legs was are they hard on the
teeth since they are weight bearing bones? I know
that may sound silly but I have avoided any weight
bearing beef bones as I knew they were hard on the
teeth... I have however fed buffalo necks and beef
necks which I bought frozen from a pet store that
carries raw. I gave these bones instead of rawhile or
something synthetic as a non-meal form of
entertainment. I learned on Saturday that my 10 month
old puppy had a slab fracture on her molar and am
trying to eliminate anything that may be too hard on
her teeth. I am assuming the beef/buffalo necks may
have been the culprit and also cow hoofs. Since I am
pretty new to all this and am still learning about
meat (we are vegetarians) I was hoping you might be
able to advise on the softer bones or best animals to
stick with? We are doing great with the poultry but I
know variety is important so any suggestions are
welcome. Thanks for your time.

Sam

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