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Sunday, July 1, 2007

[rawfeeding] Digest Number 11749

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: different cuts of ribs - and lamb/goat cuts
From: Bearhair
1b. Re: different cuts of ribs - and lamb/goat cuts
From: Jessie

2a. Re: Our 2nd week on raw. Refusing turkey please help
From: Yasuko herron
2b. Re: Our 2nd week on raw. Refusing turkey please help
From: Sandee Lee
2c. Re: Our 2nd week on raw. Refusing turkey please help
From: Darlene Hastings
2d. Re: Our 2nd week on raw. Refusing turkey please help
From: Shireen
2e. Re: Our 2nd week on raw. Refusing turkey please help
From: Shireen

3a. Re: enough beef??
From: Casey Post

4a. File - Admin-Trim it, Sign it, and Sig lines-PLEASE READ!!!
From: rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com

5.1. File - Other related lists
From: rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com

6a. Re: Which bones are best for teeth clean ups?
From: jmwise80
6b. Re: Which bones are best for teeth clean ups?
From: Giselle
6c. Re: Which bones are best for teeth clean ups?
From: jmwise80

7a. Re: Feeding a whole turkey to a small dog
From: chele519
7b. Re: Feeding a whole turkey to a small dog
From: Giselle

8a. Fish Oils
From: rocketblasther
8b. Re: Fish Oils
From: Casey Post

9a. Just Started the Raw Diet...
From: tagurit182002
9b. Re: Just Started the Raw Diet...
From: Casey Post

10a. Howdy!
From: sazkeeper
10b. Re: Howdy!
From: Sandee Lee

11a. Abbreviations
From: Linda Edgington

12a. Re: Very sick puppy
From: chamelett2003

13a. Re: The hurls
From: mob1043

14. Need Help. PLEASE
From: Kathy McCusker


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1a. Re: different cuts of ribs - and lamb/goat cuts
Posted by: "Bearhair" bearhair@spamcop.net bearhair61
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 12:22 pm ((PDT))

Chris O wrote:

>> The site includes brain, lung, and raw unscalded tripe for both goat
>and
>> sheep, so I'm pretty sure someone is excluding those along the way.

>No doubt.
>It's not the US end of the pipeline doing the excluding though, I don't
>think. At least not the pipeline that delivers the product called six-
>cut goat.

Probably in the US Import Regs, and their only allowed if they're labeled for
Pet Food Only.


Lora
Evanston, IL


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1b. Re: different cuts of ribs - and lamb/goat cuts
Posted by: "Jessie" O_snobunnie_O@hotmail.com osnobunnieo
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 2:19 pm ((PDT))


> Take the goat 6-way! For a 60lb dog, you don't want it cut up more
> than that...goat is easy eating.
>

about how much do typical goats weigh? (silly question I know... still
something I've not had the pleasure of dealing with yet)

I think when I call in the order I'll ask if I can get half of the six
way goat... maybe try lamb next time (I hear it tends to be very rich
and takes some adjusting to?).

Jessie

*oh, off topic but can you just add a signature somewhere? I'm so used
to dealing with forums where I have a set signature, which is why I
tend to forget to sign my posts... I've looked but can't find anything

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2a. Re: Our 2nd week on raw. Refusing turkey please help
Posted by: "Yasuko herron" sunshine_annamaria@yahoo.com sunshine_annamaria
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 12:23 pm ((PDT))

> Anything else I can do other than starve her for another day?

Hi.What about trying...

1>Put the meat in zip bag and soak in warm water to bring meat temp up to intice the smell of the meat? The more smelly,the more likely dog interested I heard.

2>Sear the meat partially and if just searing did not help,then,try sprinkle garlic powder and see if dog gets intrerested and over the time,you do searing less and less and it would be raw at some point of time.

3>Or, it may bring up some controversial view for this,but i tried this and my dog ate beef liver that suddenly she decided to protest me not to eat

What I did was beat the Egg in cup and just add about 1/2 tsp apple cidar vinegar and 1/2tsp honey and mix them and pour it over the beef liver she protested. She ate it without any problems.

I hope it helps.

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2b. Re: Our 2nd week on raw. Refusing turkey please help
Posted by: "Sandee Lee" rlee@plix.com mariasmom2001
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 12:54 pm ((PDT))

Was the turkey fresh or frozen? Was it basted or injected with some type of
preservative solution (most seem to be).

When just beginning, some items are trial and error so I think you need to
have more flexibility in what you are *allowed* to buy! I'd put the turkey
in the freezer for another time, get more chickens and mix it up with some
pork roast.

You could try warming it up, slicing into the meat and smashing some
Parmesan down into the slices.

On the rare occasions I have accidentally picked up enhanced foods, my dogs
will not eat it unless rinsed well and then refrozen and thawed. They also
don't like freshly killed meat...don't know what's up with that!!?????

Sandee & the Dane Gang

From: "Shireen" <quiltsnmosaics@yahoo.com>


My 50# shephard mix was doing ok on chicken quarters last week. I had
to cut it up into chunks but she had no complaints eating. This week I
bought a whole turkey and she has turned up her nose since yesterday.
She will lick the pieces but is refusing to eat them. I did not think
there's that much of a difference between chicken and turkey flavor
IMO, then again I'm not the dog's tastebuds or nose. My husband is
ready to go back to k!bb!e if she won't eat the turkey.The chicken is
all gone and not allowed to go spend another penny unless she eats what
we already bought to feed her for the week.

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2c. Re: Our 2nd week on raw. Refusing turkey please help
Posted by: "Darlene Hastings" dsdgrooming1001@qwest.net darlenesdoggroom
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 12:55 pm ((PDT))

You might check to see if she has any teeth problems, one of our Border Collies acted like that and we checked his mouth and found 2 teeth that were infected plus the vet found puss pockets in the back of his mouth. So try checking if his teeth are ok.

Darlene
----- Original Message -----
From: Shireen
To: rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 11:34 AM
Subject: [rawfeeding] Our 2nd week on raw. Refusing turkey please help


My 50# shephard mix was doing ok on chicken quarters last week. I had
to cut it up into chunks but she had no complaints eating. This week I
bought a whole turkey and she has turned up her nose since yesterday.
She will lick the pieces but is refusing to eat them. I did not think
there's that much of a difference between chicken and turkey flavor
IMO, then again I'm not the dog's tastebuds or nose. My husband is
ready to go back to k!bb!e if she won't eat the turkey.The chicken is
all gone and not allowed to go spend another penny unless she eats what
we already bought to feed her for the week. She seems really finicky
about what she's eating. I even smothered the turkey in an egg thinking
it'll get her to dig in but she just licks. We went for a long walk to
get hungrier, nose still turned up. Anything else I can do other than
starve her for another day?

Shireen

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2d. Re: Our 2nd week on raw. Refusing turkey please help
Posted by: "Shireen" quiltsnmosaics@yahoo.com quiltsnmosaics
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 1:26 pm ((PDT))

So try checking if his teeth are ok.


Will be seeing vet for check up Friday will mention.
Thanks
Shireen


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2e. Re: Our 2nd week on raw. Refusing turkey please help
Posted by: "Shireen" quiltsnmosaics@yahoo.com quiltsnmosaics
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 1:26 pm ((PDT))

> Was the turkey fresh or frozen?

Frozen

Was it basted or injected with some type of
> preservative solution (most seem to be).

Yes
>
> When just beginning, some items are trial and error so I think you
need to
> have more flexibility in what you are *allowed* to buy!

Lots of error on my part this week ;( pig feet, chicken gizzards or
livers even in the minutest quantity) but I'll keep trying to sneak
it in there slowly but surely.
I rinsed and repacked the turkey in single serving amounts and
refroze yesterday for future use or for the cats if she continues to
refuse it.
> You could try warming it up, slicing into the meat and smashing some
> Parmesan down into the slices.
>
I think I might try this this afternoon. She nuts about cooked turkey
so maybe she'll go for the warmed up version.

Thanks Sandee

Shireen


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3a. Re: enough beef??
Posted by: "Casey Post" mikken@neo.rr.com mikkeny
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 12:36 pm ((PDT))

>I know that I need to add more beef & variety in both of my girls diet; so
>I hit a huge score at the butcher Tuesday. I got 7 tongues & 4 hearts, for
>$11.00 total. Are those beef parts enough muscle meat to qualify? I also
>have kidney & liver too that are beef. The main part of their diet is pork
>& chicken, so I am so thrilled to get so much beef, now I just hope it's
>enough.

Terri,

Whatever you can get is great! I know that beef prices are often
ridiculous, but a score like yours is a wonderful thing! My dogs LOVE beef
tongue, but it's so hard to get for any reasonable price, that it's a rarity
in our freezer...

Congrats!

Casey

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4a. File - Admin-Trim it, Sign it, and Sig lines-PLEASE READ!!!
Posted by: "rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com" rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 12:38 pm ((PDT))


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5.1. File - Other related lists
Posted by: "rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com" rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 12:38 pm ((PDT))


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6a. Re: Which bones are best for teeth clean ups?
Posted by: "jmwise80" jmwise80@yahoo.com jmwise80
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 12:54 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Giselle" <megan.giselle@...>
wrote:

> Don't try to turn your older dog's lifetime of poor dental hygiene
> around in a few short weeks.


My 2.5 year old dog has been eating raw for about 7 or 8 months. I
would probably say that only about 3 of those months were done
properly with good big pieces of food that he had to work on.(I
didn't know any better)

He got all of the big spots of calculus off except for the smaller
upper teeth in the back of his jaw. There is also some brown tartar
spots on one side of his mouth. He doesn't have any pain on that
side and no damage on any teeth. I think it is because one of his
upper teeth on that side grew in perpindicular to the way it was
suppose to and therefore some of the scissor action is gone. He also
has some tartar on his front teeth and canines. His breath and gums
are also MUCH better than before.

When do you give up and go to the vet and get a dental? I feel like
if they got cleaned that it could be maintained with the way he eats
now. I just don't want anything to get worse than it is.

Michael Wise

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6b. Re: Which bones are best for teeth clean ups?
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 1:20 pm ((PDT))

Hi, Michael!
As long as you are providing large, engaging portions for your dog,
his dental progress will continue. When in doubt, go Bigger, and
Meatier! : )
Some dogs use one side of their jaws more than the other side. The
more infrequently used side will take longer to clean up.
You have to realize that some dogs have permanently stained teeth from
the calculus and tartar deposits. The calculus and tartar will
disappear, but nothing, not even a vet cleaning, can remove the stains.
IME & O, he don't need no stinkin' vet cleaning. ; )
TC
Giselle
with Bea in New Jersey

> My 2.5 year old dog has been eating raw for about 7 or 8 months. I
> would probably say that only about 3 of those months were done
> properly with good big pieces of food that he had to work on.(I
> didn't know any better)
>
> He got all of the big spots of calculus off except for the smaller
> upper teeth in the back of his jaw. There is also some brown tartar
> spots on one side of his mouth. He doesn't have any pain on that
> side and no damage on any teeth. I think it is because one of his
> upper teeth on that side grew in perpendicular to the way it was
> suppose to and therefore some of the scissor action is gone. He also
> has some tartar on his front teeth and canines. His breath and gums
> are also MUCH better than before.
>
> When do you give up and go to the vet and get a dental? I feel like
> if they got cleaned that it could be maintained with the way he eats
> now. I just don't want anything to get worse than it is.
>
> Michael Wise
>


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6c. Re: Which bones are best for teeth clean ups?
Posted by: "jmwise80" jmwise80@yahoo.com jmwise80
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 2:27 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Giselle" <megan.giselle@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, Michael!
> As long as you are providing large, engaging portions for your dog,
> his dental progress will continue. When in doubt, go Bigger, and
> Meatier! : )
> Some dogs use one side of their jaws more than the other side. The
> more infrequently used side will take longer to clean up.
> You have to realize that some dogs have permanently stained teeth from
> the calculus and tartar deposits. The calculus and tartar will
> disappear, but nothing, not even a vet cleaning, can remove the
stains.
> IME & O, he don't need no stinkin' vet cleaning. ; )
> TC
> Giselle
> with Bea in New Jersey
>

Cool! He obviously doesn't have the best teeth, so you are probably
right about the permanent stains. Tennis balls took their toll on his
canines and may have affected others more than I thought. I'm
gradually trying to move to once a day, so the meals will only get
bigger.

Thanks for your help.

Michael Wise

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7a. Re: Feeding a whole turkey to a small dog
Posted by: "chele519" chele519@yahoo.com chele519
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 12:54 pm ((PDT))

Thanks Giselle. That helps a lot! The breast was the part I was
wondering about cutting thru.
Michele

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Giselle" <megan.giselle@...> wrote:
Use heavy kitchen shears to cut through the center of the
> breast on one side of the keel. Then pull each breast half away from
> the back and cut through the easier rib bones until its separate from
> the back. A serrated knife or the kitchen shears will cut up the
> breast into smaller pieces pretty easily. You can bend the back in
> half by holding it down on the cutting board with the skin side up
and
> breaking it in half.
> TC
> Giselle
> with Bea in New Jersey


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7b. Re: Feeding a whole turkey to a small dog
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 1:23 pm ((PDT))

NPs! Glad to help, Michele.
TC
Giselle

> Thanks Giselle. That helps a lot! The breast was the part I was
> wondering about cutting thru.
> Michele


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8a. Fish Oils
Posted by: "rocketblasther" jforbes05@sbcglobal.net rocketblasther
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 12:54 pm ((PDT))

When supplementing with fish oils, is it okay to use "human grade"
fish oil? Rather than fish oil supplements that are labeled "animal
use only".


Jim & Sara

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8b. Re: Fish Oils
Posted by: "Casey Post" mikken@neo.rr.com mikkeny
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 2:02 pm ((PDT))

> When supplementing with fish oils, is it okay to use "human grade"
> fish oil? Rather than fish oil supplements that are labeled "animal
> use only".


Of course. Just watch what kind of fish oil it is - don't want to be
supplementing with cod liver oil, just fish body oils.

Casey

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9a. Just Started the Raw Diet...
Posted by: "tagurit182002" tagurit182002@yahoo.com tagurit182002
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 1:31 pm ((PDT))

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And one of my boys has seemed a little bit sickly since I started it
yesterday. His tummy seems a little tender..should I be alarmed? He
went potty and it looked fine..no blood or anything, but it's just
everytime you touch his tummy, it's a bit hard and it seems to bother
him a little bit. What to do?

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9b. Re: Just Started the Raw Diet...
Posted by: "Casey Post" mikken@neo.rr.com mikkeny
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 2:03 pm ((PDT))

> And one of my boys has seemed a little bit sickly since I started it
> yesterday. His tummy seems a little tender..should I be alarmed? He
> went potty and it looked fine..no blood or anything, but it's just
> everytime you touch his tummy, it's a bit hard and it seems to bother
> him a little bit. What to do?


More details, please! What kind/size/age of dog? What did you feed? How
much did you feed? Anything else you can think to include...

Casey

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10a. Howdy!
Posted by: "sazkeeper" sazkeeper@yahoo.com sazkeeper
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 1:41 pm ((PDT))

Hi! I just wanted to introduce myself and my "little" ones. My name
is Kameron, and I am very new to the raw feeding thing...I have two
GSD - Bodo and Bart, a very elderly cat and a pair of genets (mammal-
wise, at least.) I just switched the two dogs to raw...so far, so
good. Right now they are both eating chicken backs, a little yogurt
in the morning, fish oil, and nupro joint supplement. I'm not sure
about supplementation yet - but will probably continue the fish oil,
and maybe switch from nupro (lots of volume of powder) to missing
link plus - mainly for the glucosamine, as both are sport dogs. I
also intend to add more muscle and organ meat this week but wanted
to start off simple. Bodo, my 3yr old, made the switch no problem.
No diarrhea or anything. Lucky me! Bart is my new puppy - only 9
weeks old - but his breeder fed a modified raw diet, so he was
already somewhat used to it. It is definitely impressive to hear his
little teeth crunch through those backs! Ultimately the genets will
also go raw, but not too sure if I will switch Bullet, my cat, as he
is 17 yrs old and doesn't have too many teeth left. Any advice in
that area?

One thing I have already run into is the training treat thing, but I
see there is a file on the subject. I haven't read it all the way
through - does it have detailed cooking instructions for the liver?
I'm not worried about Bodo, as he is a glutton and will eat
anything, but Bart's food drive (which was demonstrated at the
breeder) seems to have gone away with the switch to all-raw. I guess
nothing is as good as the real thing, huh!

Anyway...just thought I would introduce myself. I hope I get a lot
from this resource!

Kameron

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10b. Re: Howdy!
Posted by: "Sandee Lee" rlee@plix.com mariasmom2001
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 2:50 pm ((PDT))

Hi Kameron,

Great job on getting those boys switched to raw!!! :)

Just wanted to make a quick comment about the supplements you mentioned. I
would recommend supplementing with only the specific ingredients required by
your dogs. If you need glucosamine, get a good glucosamine/chondroitin
product rather than one which includes everything but the kitchen sink, some
potentially harmful, most not beneficial and only serve to water down the
one or two ingredients you are needing. Both of those products have
absolutely horrible <g> ingredients and not enough glucosamine to make a bit
of difference.

For instance, Nupro contains far too much Vitamin D and various other
minerals including calcium....I definitely would not use this on a growing
puppy!

Actually there are many good sources of natural glucosamine in raw food so
you may not need to supplement at all.

Oh, and training treats, how to dry liver, etc. is discussed on Rawchat
frequently. Go on over there and do an archive search. Lots of great
info!!

Sandee & the Dane Gang

From: "sazkeeper" <sazkeeper@yahoo.com>


I just switched the two dogs to raw...so far, so
good. Right now they are both eating chicken backs, a little yogurt
in the morning, fish oil, and nupro joint supplement. I'm not sure
about supplementation yet - but will probably continue the fish oil,
and maybe switch from nupro (lots of volume of powder) to missing
link plus - mainly for the glucosamine, as both are sport dogs. I
also intend to add more muscle and organ meat this week but wanted
to start off simple. Bodo, my 3yr old, made the switch no problem.
No diarrhea or anything. Lucky me! Bart is my new puppy - only 9
weeks old - but his breeder fed a modified raw diet, so he was
already somewhat used to it. It is definitely impressive to hear his
little teeth crunch through those backs!

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11a. Abbreviations
Posted by: "Linda Edgington" lindagail849@yahoo.com lindagail849
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 2:19 pm ((PDT))

I notice a lot of you use abbre. Is there a list some where? I don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Linda


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12a. Re: Very sick puppy
Posted by: "chamelett2003" chamelett2003@yahoo.com chamelett2003
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 2:19 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "tottime47" <tottime@...> wrote:
Oh, I never thought of cooked food being harder to digest. I am so
afraid of giving her raw with all the bacteria on it. I am afraid she
can not handle it like the other dogs for some reason. I am thawing
out a chicken as you decribed for us to eat for dinner. I will try to
find the slippery elm and save some chicken for her. Her enery is
still back today. She is not hiding in her crate. wants to come out,
run around and be with us today.
Thanks,
Jill
>> I would start putting a little slippery elm on the small pieces of
> chicken and feeding every few hours as you are doing now..........
>
> Cooked foods of any kind are harder for a dog to digest and
> especially sick ones.
>
> Chicken is the easiest to digest..
>
> Keep in mind any kind of antibotic is really hard on their
> stomch too......
>
> Let us know how it's going........
>
> Carol & Charkee
>
>
>
> --- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "chamelett2003"
> <chamelett2003@> wrote:
>
> I cooked some chicken as she still
> > refused to eat the baby food. She wanted more and more chicken
but
> I
> > would only give her a small piece about every hour for the next
> four
> > hours. Her stools got more contisantcy to them to the point of
> being
> > just mushy. Now today Saturday she ate some more cooked chicken
but
> > this afternoon She is squirting green liquid again. DARN.
> > Jill
> >
>


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13a. Re: The hurls
Posted by: "mob1043" ynotbeastar@marykay.com mob1043
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 2:49 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "tottime47" <tottime@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Michele,
>
> What is in what he's throwing up? Pieces of bone or complete meals?
>
> Gizzards are considered a low value muscle meat from what I have read \
> so far.
>
> I wouldn't introduce organs until you figure out the hurling part.....
>
> Carol & Charkee
>
>
>
> --- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "mob1043" <ynotbeastar@> wrote:
> >
> > It seems my Great Pyrenees, is tossing up his food. I feed him about
> 2
> > 1/2 lbs per day once am & once pm. I am giving chicken for the
> week.
> > I have been giving only 10% organ (gizzards) along with drumsticks or
> > breast to make up his meal.
>
> > Thank you,
> > Michele
>

Hi C & C

It looks like bits of bone and organ, but it sure smells! The turkey vultures that fly above
our house love it!

Michele

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14. Need Help. PLEASE
Posted by: "Kathy McCusker" kmccusker72@hotmail.com kathym14456
Date: Sun Jul 1, 2007 2:58 pm ((PDT))

Hi, I just fed Jagger his supper. He ate 3 chicken thighs and 1
breast. He ate it with gusto and then went outside and threw it all
up. It didn't look like he chewed any of it. Now he is looking for
more to eat. Is this normal or am I doing something wrong. If he is
hungry should I feed him again?Kathy

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