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Saturday, June 30, 2007

[rawfeeding] Digest Number 11745

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Does anyone feed kombucha?
From: Kari Carlisle
1b. Re: Does anyone feed kombucha?
From: tottime47

2a. Re: Ok, no more talk about bloat, how about Mountain Oysters?
From: tottime47
2b. Re: Ok, no more talk about bloat, how about Mountain Oysters?
From: Jai
2c. Re: Ok, no more talk about bloat, how about Mountain Oysters?
From: Rose
2d. Re: Ok, no more talk about bloat, how about Mountain Oysters?
From: tottime47
2e. Re: Ok, no more talk about bloat, how about Mountain Oysters?
From: tottime47

3a. Re: day 1, this is going to be a looong haul
From: Bearhair
3b. Re: day 1, this is going to be a looong haul
From: Andrea

4a. Re: Bloat in large dogs
From: mob1043
4b. Re: Bloat in large dogs
From: Scott Baker

5a. Re: Advice re: softest bones?
From: Bearhair
5b. Advice re: softest bones?
From: Samantha Morris

6a. Which bones are best for teeth clean ups?
From: chickendido2006
6b. Re: Which bones are best for teeth clean ups?
From: sofiesmom2003
6c. Re: Which bones are best for teeth clean ups?
From: Giselle

7a. different cuts of ribs - and lamb/goat cuts
From: Jessie
7b. Re: different cuts of ribs - and lamb/goat cuts
From: Giselle

8. Adopting dog raw feeding
From: Evie Maddox

9a. Re: Very sick puppy
From: tottime47
9b. Re: Very sick puppy
From: Andrea

10a. Just starting out
From: Kathy McCusker
10b. Re: Just starting out
From: Giselle
10c. Re: Just starting out
From: Elizabeth

11a. Re: Diarrhea in Newbie Great Dane.
From: Andrea


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1a. Does anyone feed kombucha?
Posted by: "Kari Carlisle" kari@houndgroup.com karicarlisle
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:54 am ((PDT))

I've heard the mushroom itself and the tea are good to feed in small
amounts.

Kari

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1b. Re: Does anyone feed kombucha?
Posted by: "tottime47" tottime@aol.com tottime47
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:03 pm ((PDT))

Hi Kari,

It'd probably be great for the kids or adults, but my dog?

NO Way.............. He's a carnivore......

Carol


--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Kari Carlisle" <kari@...> wrote:
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> I've heard the mushroom itself and the tea are good to feed in small
> amounts.
>
> Kari
>


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2a. Re: Ok, no more talk about bloat, how about Mountain Oysters?
Posted by: "tottime47" tottime@aol.com tottime47
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:02 pm ((PDT))

I feed them as organ, and I usually feed two at a time to my dogs.
The fries I got have an. .
.unusual texture to say the least.

Andrea


Hi Andrea,

I don't think I could feed two at a time, the ones I got are hugh,
lol.
Must be beef? I didn't ask.......

I just got them out and thawed one. Squishy.....1st time I've ever
gotten so queasy, lol...

Kept thinging of giant squid eyes....

I'm hoping my dog likes them as well as your kitties & dogs do!

Glad to know they don't need any special treatment (other than being
gentle ala Chris O's post)

Glad your BF is back to a happy state too! Yea, why don't we ever
have a camera handy when we need one...........

Carol & Charkee ( bring um on ! )


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2b. Re: Ok, no more talk about bloat, how about Mountain Oysters?
Posted by: "Jai" JRedwing@alltel.net onesupercat
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:03 pm ((PDT))

I missed exactly what they are, but from Chris O's comment, I can figure
it out. LOL This is great.
Jai

costrowski75 wrote:
> "tottime47" <tottime@...> wrote:
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>> I got a pair at the butchers, yes I know what they are, lol, but
>> haven't seen anything on here about feeding them.
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>> Are they an organ:? ........ stupid question, :)..........
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>> Considered a muscle? What and how much to feed?
>>
> *****
> Tee hee.
> I suspect some owners consider them muscles (and seriously big ones at
> that) but they are reproductive organs.
>
> I recommend you feed them as you would any new menu addition. Start
> small (oh, be gentle), then increase quantity as the dog's experience
> indicates.
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> This is a very difficult topic to discuss without getting all
> snickery. Yes, one must be professional.
> Chris O
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2c. Re: Ok, no more talk about bloat, how about Mountain Oysters?
Posted by: "Rose" liddielolamum@yahoo.com liddielolamum
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:47 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "tottime47" <tottime@...> wrote:
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> I got a pair at the butchers, yes I know what they are, lol, but
> haven't seen anything on here about feeding them.


Still carry an image of an elderly GSD consuming a horse nut with
gusto; it didn't thicken up her coat tho' :)
Rose

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2d. Re: Ok, no more talk about bloat, how about Mountain Oysters?
Posted by: "tottime47" tottime@aol.com tottime47
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:11 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, Jai <JRedwing@...> wrote:
I missed exactly what they are, but from Chris O's comment, I can
figure
> it out. LOL This is great.
> Jai

HI Jai,

Andrea said in a post that her dogs and kitties loved them so hoping
for the same
here......we shall see, ; )

Carol & Charkee

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2e. Re: Ok, no more talk about bloat, how about Mountain Oysters?
Posted by: "tottime47" tottime@aol.com tottime47
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:17 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Rose" <liddielolamum@...> wrote:

> Still carry an image of an elderly GSD consuming a horse nut with
> gusto; it didn't thicken up her coat tho' :)
> Rose

Hi Rose,
Hahahaha.....maybe I'd better not feed them.......mine
jumps, flips and barks like a nut at dinner time now......
He doesn't need any more qusto over his meals and his coat is
already beautiful........ ;)

Carol & Charkee ( but I want them mom! )

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3a. Re: day 1, this is going to be a looong haul
Posted by: "Bearhair" bearhair@spamcop.net bearhair61
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:03 pm ((PDT))

Linda wrote:

>My dog inhales his food. He has to eat in 2 seconds flat. I started out with chicken breast. I tried to grab an end of it, and he snarled at be. Got into trouble right away! Now what do I do?

1. Only feed pieces bigger than his head. Seriously.

2. Search the archives for "gulper"

3. Train your dog to allow you to take food from him WHENEVER you want. But
do try not to lunge across the room at him, after giving him his first taste
of real food.

Lora
Evanston, IL


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3b. Re: day 1, this is going to be a looong haul
Posted by: "Andrea" poketmouse45@yahoo.com poketmouse45
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:14 pm ((PDT))

I'm sure your first reaction is to cut it up smaller but *Don't do this*! Serving minced meat
only allows the dog to hoover his food even more, and while it is manageable to pull a leg
quarter out of the mouth, it's a whole lot harder to try and pull out a small chunk of meat.
The answer is to feed even bigger. Depending on the size of the dog, I would feed a half
chicken at a time. You want the food to be bigger than his head, even if that means it is
more than one day's worth of food. When he has eaten enough for the day, trade him what
he is eating for a high value treat, and put the food away for later. You can also freeze the
food to slow them down. Hope this helps!

Andrea


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4a. Re: Bloat in large dogs
Posted by: "mob1043" ynotbeastar@marykay.com mob1043
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:04 pm ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Kaity Evans" <Aleighanra@...> wrote:
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> The deep chested breeds are more prone to bloat, like Danes,
> Greyhouds, Borzoi, Afghans, etc. Using an elevated feeder/water dish
> is supposed to help also. I got mine on ebay, specially customized at
> 20" for my Dane. It is raised so that the dog is not gulping air as he
> is trying to eat or drink, thus reducing the collection of air in the
> stomach. Although, my dog belches after EVERY meal, so I don't think
> he will be bloating anytime soon! Check them out at
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&item=150135940479&ih=005&category=20747
>
> What kind of dog do you have?
>
> -Kaity & Ziggy the Merle
>
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> --- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "mob1043" <ynotbeastar@> wrote:
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> > I know that large dogs are prone to bloat. I am excited to think this
> > way of eating will keep that from happening since they aren't gulping
> > down grains and they are digesting more easily? Am I Ok to assume
> > that? I still feed twice a day.
> >
> > Michele

Hi all.

I have 2 bullmastiffs (6mos) and a great pyrenees along with an irish wolfhound/border
collie mix. I have always fed the puppies in a raised dish, but the pyrenees takes all food
out of his dish and drags it away to eat. Even when he was fed k****e he would knock the
bowl over to eat off the ground. I always hope he won't bloat from this practice.

They all gulp down their food so fast now that they are eating raw so I a feed twice a day
so they don't have such a big meal in the am and they get exercise throughout the day.

Michele

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4b. Re: Bloat in large dogs
Posted by: "Scott Baker" scottsbaker@gmail.com scottpsbaker
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:44 pm ((PDT))

I do the exact opposite. I have a bullmastiff (15months) and feed just once
a day, usually in the evening before bed, but it can be more random. I find
splitting the meals up made them far too small, and not in the least bit
challenging.

> Hi all.
>
> I have 2 bullmastiffs (6mos) and a great pyrenees along with an irish
> wolfhound/border
> collie mix. I have always fed the puppies in a raised dish, but the
> pyrenees takes all food
> out of his dish and drags it away to eat. Even when he was fed k****e he
> would knock the
> bowl over to eat off the ground. I always hope he won't bloat from this
> practice.
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> They all gulp down their food so fast now that they are eating raw so I a
> feed twice a day
> so they don't have such a big meal in the am and they get exercise
> throughout the day.
>
> Michele
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5a. Re: Advice re: softest bones?
Posted by: "Bearhair" bearhair@spamcop.net bearhair61
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:04 pm ((PDT))

Sam wrote:

>We've been feeding our Australian Shepherd along the prey model largely consisting of duck
>anbd chicken, but we do use beef bones occasionally as recreational bones. We're concerned
>those bones might be too hard, so any advice anyone could offer on softer bones that could
>be appropriate for recreation would be greatly appreciated.

Sign your messages or the moderator will smack you.

In prey-model feeding, there is no such thing as "recreational bones." Search
the archives for the phrase and read the most recent two or three threads
(from this month).

Weight-bearing bones from large livestock are harder than your dog's teeth
and will break them.

Unless you're just starting to introduce your dog to raw, you should try to
feed more than just poultry in order to provide as wide a range of nutrients
as possible. Pork meat, bones and organs, beef meat, non-weight-bearing bones
(ribs, tails), and organs, goat, lamb, rabbit, etc.

Lora
Evanston, IL


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5b. Advice re: softest bones?
Posted by: "Samantha Morris" smmastai@yahoo.com smmastai
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:47 pm ((PDT))

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I should probably clarify by saying the beef bones we
have given are beef necks rather than the larger
femurs. We give them every week or two for her to
chew while we're gardening. She also has access to a
cow hoof and all the time and I;m concerned that may
be the problem...We just went to the vets and found
out our dog has a fractured tooth. I am going to avoid
these bones now for sure but wondering what animals
are best in terms of soft bones...are chicken legs too
hard and crunchy? I picked up some oxtail and lamb
ribs at the bucther am will try anything that you guys
think would be a good idea... so angry at myself re
the beef necks...



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6a. Which bones are best for teeth clean ups?
Posted by: "chickendido2006" chickendido@hotmail.com chickendido2006
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:04 pm ((PDT))

I have 2 small Yorkshire Terriers, 11 years and 18 weeks old. The older
one always had teeth problems while on commercial dog food and has had
several vet teeth cleanings. I'd like to avoid that in the future as
he's getting up there in age and I want my puppy to never even
experience bad teeth in the first place! Both of the dog's teeth and
gums are fine right now, no problems with chewing, tearing etc. I tried
pork necks and it gave my oldest lose stools. From what I read so far,
beef bones are too hard for them. My oldest hates lamb and I can't
stomach rabbit. I just don't feel like chicken is doing much for the
above mentioned teeth cleaning work out! Are beef ribs to hard, too?
Strictly as a mouth clean up- which meaty bones would be best?
Both do great on raw, but I have to score the meat for them still as it
would take them forever otherwise and then lose interest! They love to
chew on "fake", commercial type bones, but I don't want to give those
to them anymore and I also think those do more harm than good! I
searched the topics but haven't found a safisfactory answer. Any
thoughts?
Thanks
Nadia, Toy and Gia

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6b. Re: Which bones are best for teeth clean ups?
Posted by: "sofiesmom2003" sofiesmom2003@yahoo.com sofiesmom2003
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:47 pm ((PDT))

" I have 2 small Yorkshire Terriers, 11 years and 18 weeks old. ...
Both of the dog's teeth and gums are fine right now, no problems
with chewing, tearing etc. ... I just don't feel like chicken is
doing much for the above mentioned teeth cleaning work out! Are
beef ribs to hard, too? "


Hi Nadia:
My Sofie, a 5 pound Papillon, had the worse teeth my vet ever saw...
at 5 months her teeth were dark brown and she had to have them
cleaned... That's one reason I started her on Raw..

Chicken back and neck bones kept her teeth spotless. Her vet was soo
impressed.. Great Breath too.. Apparently the enzymes in raw meat
by themselves also help keep teeth clean. I was afraid of beef
ribs.. afraid she would break a tooth.

"They love to chew on "fake", commercial type bones, but I don't
want to give those to them anymore and I also think those do more
harm than good! I searched the topics but haven't found a
safisfactory answer. Any thoughts?"

My breeder advised me against rawhide and any 'bones' that could be
chewed up into pieces.. the rubbery ones that absolutely can't be
chewed up into pieces are fine she said.. but Sofie didn't like
them. My breeder advised Lambs ears.. and Sofie loved them.. They
sorta dissove as they are chewed.. at least with Sofie they never
broke off into big chunks for her to swallow or choke on..

Good Luck
Maria


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6c. Re: Which bones are best for teeth clean ups?
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:00 pm ((PDT))

Hi, Nadia!
Dogs only need about 10% edible bone in their diet. Not every meal
needs a bone in it. And not all the bone offered has to be consumed
entirely. Meals can be teeth cleaners without any bone. Offer big
chunks of meat, whether with a bone or not, and let them figure out
how to rip and tear into it to get swallowable hunks o' meat off the
main portion without helping them.
You may have ended up with loose stools just because of your dog's
new-to-raw status. All dogs need to have an adjustment period with
each new protein, bone & organ. Loose stools can be the result of the
newness, too much food at a meal, too much new food, etc.
Try turkey and pork. Plenty of meat and parts of the bones are edible
for your littles. Lamb breast (ribs) are soft and could be mostly
consumed by tiny dogs. You can feed beef or veal heart. Don't forget
to introduce organs eventually. Reintroduce the proteins they've
rejected again after a few months experience of raw feeding.
Don't try to turn your older dog's lifetime of poor dental hygiene
around in a few short weeks. It'll be OK, really.
TC
Giselle
with Bea in New Jersey

> I have 2 small Yorkshire Terriers, 11 years and 18 weeks old. The older
> one always had teeth problems while on commercial dog food and has had
> several vet teeth cleanings. I'd like to avoid that in the future as
> he's getting up there in age and I want my puppy to never even
> experience bad teeth in the first place! Both of the dog's teeth and
> gums are fine right now, no problems with chewing, tearing etc. I tried
> pork necks and it gave my oldest lose stools. <snip>
> Thanks
> Nadia, Toy and Gia
>


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7a. different cuts of ribs - and lamb/goat cuts
Posted by: "Jessie" O_snobunnie_O@hotmail.com osnobunnieo
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:04 pm ((PDT))

Hi all,

I'm looking to start feeding ribs that I can find at a decent
price. My local supplier has a few different options and I'd like
to know what each is (without keeping the poor guy on the phone for
an hour!)as well as what you would call a few other cuts if I were
to order any lamb or goat.

The way the price list is set up, he has a "6 way" lamb and goat...
which I know would be the entire thing split into six parts. For
like $0.15 more per pound you can get whatever cut you want.
Problem is... I have no idea how to order or what to order from
these guys. I would assume I could tell him any sort of roast cut
to get a big hunk of meat correct?

As for the ribs, if you have any idea on the differences please shed
some light for me! I'll list prices too so if one seems to be the
better deal over another, let me know what you think. He also has
wholesale and retail prices, but I'm not sure how much is needed to
get the wholesale price so these are all retail per pound prices.

Beef:
Short Ribs $2.29
Flanking Ribs $2.29
Beef Back Ribs $1.79

Pork:
St. Lous Ribs $2.79
5 Up Ribs $1.79
Spare Ribs $2.39
Riblets $2.89
Baby Back $4.59

Now, I'd assume the pricier ribs are more meat and less bone? Are
there any ribs you would consider to have completely too big bones
that are either inedible or just too risky to feed? (Brody is 60lbs
and so far has eaten all but maybe a few chunks of pork neck, but
goes through turkey thigh bones just fine)

Thanks!

Jessie


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7b. Re: different cuts of ribs - and lamb/goat cuts
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:04 pm ((PDT))

Hi, Jessie!
Whyever would you want to buy and feed *just* ribs when you have the
option of getting 6 way lamb and goat cuts? I'd buy 'em just like
that, sounds just ducky to me!
TC
Giselle
with Bea in New Jersey

> I'm looking to start feeding ribs that I can find at a decent
> price. My local supplier has a few different options and I'd like
> to know what each is (without keeping the poor guy on the phone for
> an hour!)as well as what you would call a few other cuts if I were
> to order any lamb or goat.
>
> The way the price list is set up, he has a "6 way" lamb and goat...
<snip>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jessie
>


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8. Adopting dog raw feeding
Posted by: "Evie Maddox" evie@thediaperlady.com eviemaddox516
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:04 pm ((PDT))

We have 3 dogs and want to adopt a small rescued dog from our local
rescue org. The selection process is strict, and they call your vet to
make sure your pets are current on vax, want you to have a fence, and
come to your house for a visit. So I'm wondering; do you think they
will ask about food? If they notice we have no dog food around, they
may ask, and I'm wondering what I should tell them. If they freak out
(you never know) is there something that I can print out that covers
the bases? I thought about referring them to the 9,000 people in this
group, but thought they might not find that entertaining. Has anyone
experienced a problem before? Thanks!

Evie

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9a. Re: Very sick puppy
Posted by: "tottime47" tottime@aol.com tottime47
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:05 pm ((PDT))

Hi Jill,

I think we need more information.

She quit eating 2 wks ago and you took her to the Vet right away or
waited two weeks?

What did the Vet say was wrong with her?

If your other two dogs are thriving after a year on raw, why would
you feel she wouldn't be better on raw too?

Carol & Charkee

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "chamelett2003"
<chamelett2003@...> wrote:
The third a 6 month old Chihuahua almost died. I have had her
> for two months and put her on raw the day I got her. She quit
eating
> two weeks ago, hidding out in her crate, no energy to play. Then
> vomiting green liquid. Then 5 days later green liquid diarrhea. She
> went from 3 lbs to 5 lbs, got sick and lost down to 4.2lbs in 5
days.
> Negative for parvo x2, no coccidia, no gerardia, no parisites or
ov.
> Serum wbc were fine. Blood sugar was 39!I had to
> forse feed high calorie paste and inject fluids 100cc/day
> subcutainiously every day to keep her alive. She started eating
> yesterday 24 hours after the start of amoxicillin. I am feeding her
> cooked chicken meat. I am scared to death to feed her anything raw!
how
> can I get calcium in her if I can't feed her raw?
> Please help,
> Jill
>


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9b. Re: Very sick puppy
Posted by: "Andrea" poketmouse45@yahoo.com poketmouse45
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:46 pm ((PDT))

Jill, I'm sorry you had to go through so much, and I'm glad your little one is better now. What
exactly was wrong? Did the vet give a reason for the sickness? Did the vet give any meds
that made her better, or was it just the force feeding?

Andrea


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10a. Just starting out
Posted by: "Kathy McCusker" kmccusker72@hotmail.com kathym14456
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:12 pm ((PDT))

Hi all, it's just me with questions again. I took my mastiff pup to
the vets the other day for a runny eye, he got something in it and
it's infected. The vet asked me what I was feeding him and I told him
raw. He said to keep it up because he looks great. I just started it
this past Tuesday and there is a difference in the texture of his fur
already. He loves the food and isn't fussy anymore. I am alittle
concerned about his activity level. He doesn't seem to be as active as
he used to be. Maybe he was hyper and I didn't really realize it. He
is content to lay around and sleep in the house. He will play outside
but as soon as he hits the house he is asleep again. He has also had
somewhat watery stool along with formed. Much smaller amounts than he
used to have. I just want to make sure he is reacting properly. Is
there an adjusment period? Thanks, KathyM

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10b. Re: Just starting out
Posted by: "Giselle" megan.giselle@gmail.com megangiselle
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:44 pm ((PDT))

Hi, Kathy!
Definitely!
Glad your vet was with the program!
Activity level often dips just after a large &/or satisfying meal,
whether you're a people or a puppy. ; ) Perfectly normal, and a
perfect time for a nap. Didn't you ever hear the tale that pups grow
while they are sleeping? He's got a lot of growing to do! : )
The reduction in the volume of poops are a result of raw being much
more digestible than kibble. Less waste = less poop.
It takes awhile for pups and dogs to adjust to each new protein and
raw feeding in general. Loose or runny poops can happen with new food,
too much new food at a meal, organs, more-than-I-am-used-to fat/skin,
meatymeat meals, etc. Introducing one protein at a time for at least a
week can help his digestive system adjust.
Not sure/don't remember how old your pup is, but more frequent meals,
like 3 a day until 5-6mo, 2 a day until 8-10mo, then one meal a day is
OK, and approximately usual.
TC
Giselle
with Bea in New Jersey

> Hi all, it's just me with questions again. I took my mastiff pup to
> the vets the other day for a runny eye, he got something in it and
> it's infected. The vet asked me what I was feeding him and I told him
> raw. He said to keep it up because he looks great. I just started it
> this past Tuesday and there is a difference in the texture of his fur
> already. He loves the food and isn't fussy anymore. I am a little
> concerned about his activity level. He doesn't seem to be as active as
> he used to be. Maybe he was hyper and I didn't really realize it. He
> is content to lay around and sleep in the house. He will play outside
> but as soon as he hits the house he is asleep again. He has also had
> somewhat watery stool along with formed. Much smaller amounts than he
> used to have. I just want to make sure he is reacting properly. Is
> there an adjustment period? Thanks, KathyM
>


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10c. Re: Just starting out
Posted by: "Elizabeth" rainsou1@yahoo.com rainsou1
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:48 pm ((PDT))

Kathy,
For some dogs there are longer adjustment periods than others. How
much/often are you feeding him? Make sure you are feeding him his
expected adult size in meal amounts, OR about 10% of his current body
weight. You'll have to feed him about 4 times a day to get all that
food in there! Warning: Poop WILL be minimal.;)
-Liz

In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy McCusker" <kmccusker72@...> wrote:
>
> I am alittle
> concerned about his activity level. He doesn't seem to be as active as
> he used to be. Maybe he was hyper and I didn't really realize it. He
> is content to lay around and sleep in the house. He will play outside
> but as soon as he hits the house he is asleep again. He has also had
> somewhat watery stool along with formed. Much smaller amounts than he
> used to have. I just want to make sure he is reacting properly. Is
> there an adjusment period? Thanks, KathyM
>


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11a. Re: Diarrhea in Newbie Great Dane.
Posted by: "Andrea" poketmouse45@yahoo.com poketmouse45
Date: Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:14 pm ((PDT))

Hi, Katie, congrats on the new pup! When you say her poop isn't solid, is it completely
watery, or does it have some substance? Has she been checked for intestinal parasites? If
she's clear of worms etc, I think maybe three meals a day would be better for her. If she's
getting too much food at once, that could do it. Let us know how it goes.

Andrea

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