[rawfeeding] Digest Number 12359

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: Help my dog is very skinny
From: Erika
1b. Re: Help my dog is very skinny
From: lukagsd
1c. Re: Help my dog is very skinny
From: aliciamyan
1d. Re: Help my dog is very skinny
From: blue eyed

2a. Re: Prairie Dogs
From: Michelle R

3a. Re: diarhea
From: Judy McCammon
3b. Re: diarhea
From: costrowski75
3c. Re: diarhea
From: Yasuko herron

4a. Re: Graet Dane pups (raw fed) need a home
From: Eva Finlan

5a. Re: Cost of feeding raw, averaged?
From: cactususan
5b. Re: Cost of feeding raw, averaged?
From: mozookpr

6a. Re: Encouraging words requested.
From: Mary Tinder

7a. Re: Cost of feeding raw
From: Cynthia Downer
7b. Re: Cost of feeding raw
From: costrowski75

8a. Bury it
From: Laura
8b. Re: Bury it
From: Karen Swanay
8c. Re: Bury it
From: katkellm

9a. Re: NEW TO RAW FEEDING NEED ANY POINTERS
From: Sandee Lee

10a. Re: DOES RAW FEEDING MAKE AGGRESIVE DOGS?
From: Sandee Lee

11a. I would like to ask some ???'s about Simon
From: Jordan Spiva
11b. Re: I would like to ask some ???'s about Simon
From: Morledzep@aol.com

12. New raw feeder with concerns about cleanliness
From: bettathang

13a. Re: Anyone feed wild hog?
From: coriowen

14. Allergies and Raw
From: opi1177

15a. ADMIN/Re: Graet Dane pups (raw fed) need a home
From: costrowski75

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1a. Re: Help my dog is very skinny
Posted by: "Erika" Erika@redangelbordeaux.com redangelbordeaux
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 12:11 pm ((PST))

I'll feed about 2/3 of his meal beef heart and the other 1/3 will be chicken leg quarter with skin or lamb breast which he loves (also good and fatty)

He is fed in a pen along side the other dogs as well, they don't gulp there food in a competitive nature, but they don't leave anything behind either, lol.

Don't throw away the meat, just put it in a trash bag and back into the fridge. Then offer it again in a few hours and then again the next day untill it is gone. Sometimes mine like to take a break and drink and go potty then want to go back into there pen and finish there dinner :)

Erika

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1b. Re: Help my dog is very skinny
Posted by: "lukagsd" lukagsd@yahoo.com lukagsd
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 12:11 pm ((PST))

Thanx for your info. Do you just feed the beef? What bones does he
get? I am worried about balance - maybe I should just give him what
ever he will accept until he puts on some weight? Thanx, chris

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "aliciamyan" <alicia_larson@...>
wrote:
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> --- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "lukagsd" <lukagsd@> wrote:
> >
> > My 17 mos old gsd has been on raw since he was born. He is very
> skinny hip bones and spine are easily seen.
>
> That could be my GSD boy too. He is now 3 and has been on raw for
> only 3 months. He's always been thin and we had a pretty serious
> setback that didn't help (torsion surgery ealier this year - which
> led me to research other diet options). He's finally gaining
weight
> and doesn't look like a prehistoric creature anymore. But, his
> spine, ribs and hip bones can still be seen and felt easily. I
feed
> between 3 and 4% of what I think his ideal weight should be someday
> (100lbs? = 3 to 4 lbs/day). It seems as soon as he puts any little
> bit of fat on his front ribs, it quickly disperses to muscle. He
is
> finally putting on some width in his chest/shoulders and back. It
> doesn't help he is EXTREMELY active. His mother is also a lean,
> lanky german, so I assume he takes after her. Beef is his
favorite -
> heart and tongue - the more I feed these the more I can see a
> positive change. I think if it weren't for the competition between
> our two dogs, the GSD wouldn't eat nearly as well - especially
> chicken - not a favorite. I've also found exercising him before
> feeding calms him down and gets him hungry so he can focus on
eating.
>
> Best wishes,
> Alicia
>

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1c. Re: Help my dog is very skinny
Posted by: "aliciamyan" alicia_larson@msn.com aliciamyan
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 1:00 pm ((PST))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "lukagsd" <lukagsd@...> wrote:
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> Thanx for your info. Do you just feed the beef? What bones does
he
> get? I am worried about balance - maybe I should just give him what
> ever he will accept until he puts on some weight? Thanx, chris
>

Well, I am still new, so hopefully some of the more experienced folks
on this site will correct me if need be. Now that I am getting the
hang of it, I don't worry so much about the daily picture, but the
big picture - the picture of how my dogs overall health is coming
along. I feed randomly. For awhile I was pairing up elk and chicken
quarters, because that is what I had and I wanted to make sure they
got their daily bone - sometimes elk for AM feeding/chicken in the PM
or visa-versa. Because I ran out of that, I then fed the beef heart
and tongues for a couple weeks and found out they'd live without bone
every day. In fact, I believe dogs that need the extra calories
benefit from more meat/less bone. They may have had runny stools,
but I didn't notice and neither showed signs of digestive issues - in
fact, they were even more excited about meals. I did notice their
teeth had some build up from lack of bone, but that was fixed once I
got back to chicken. Now I have whole chickens, but no beef. So
until I pick up more beef, it will be whole chickens I cut up to the
right portion for each dog. I plan to get the beef this week and
then will alternate daily between beef and chicken. After what I've
seen the past month, I feel that will be a good balance for my dogs -
extra fat from the beef and the bone from the chicken. Of course, if
I'm blessed with a motherload of wild game, I will have to rethink my
plan! Mondays are liver days - usually beef since I have an
abundance of that. The liver is above and beyond their daily rations
since it is just once a week and the extra calories won't hurt either
of them. I also occasionally treat my gsd with whatever smaller meat
pieces I have from freezer-cleanout donations - usually frozen
chicken breasts/thighs/drumsticks, small meat packages etc. This is
above and beyond his meals. The lab gets extra love when the gsd
gets food treats - she's an easy keeper and the extra weight would do
her arthritis no favors.

Hope this helps,
Alicia

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1d. Re: Help my dog is very skinny
Posted by: "blue eyed" eyed_blue@yahoo.co.uk eyed_blue
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 4:50 pm ((PST))

I'm having/have had the same problem with my dog (he is 12 months) he is now starting to eat very well since I have introduced a fast day every week. Before this it was a struggle to feed him consistent amounts and he never ate as much as he should have.

Also, I have switched to a lot more RMB's instead of minces but use the minces now and again and the variety seems to work well for him. Also a pigs ear a day keeps the weight on as they are oily, but only after he has eaten his dinner!! - I know how this sounds but it works! They soon figure it out.

Mine done the same with chicken so I give him the minced chicken that inc's bone and I mix a bit of marrow that I've scooped from a knuckle bone through, almost like a mixer and he eats every scrap!!! Sometimes whipping an egg so they smell the yolk more(mine seems to prefer this part) through the mince gets him eating all his dinner and he is still eating what he would have anyway only prepared in a different way, also I started to feed only a couple of lbs one day then made up for it the next, keep him on his toes!! I'm sure that natrually they dont get a certain amount to eat each day (then again they dont have mince either!)

I feed a lot of bones frozen and he seems to eat more this way, but I suppose thats each dogs personal preferance.

Something else that seems to work for mine is if I sit the RMB in front of him and tell him to 'leave' it and make him do that for say 5-10mins he will suddenly gain interest when I say 'ok' and tuck in!

Also if he turns something down then he will not be offered that food again until i feel I really should give him that for variety, he always eats it the next time.

Hope some of this helps,

Natalie

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2a. Re: Prairie Dogs
Posted by: "Michelle R" crested_dog8@yahoo.com crested_dog8
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 12:11 pm ((PST))

Other than that some of them are either endangered or threatened species???? Id check with local game authorities before using them for "target practice" or feeding them. You may be in serious violation of some big time federal wildlife laws!!!

Michelle Radcliff
Mengshi Chinese Cresteds
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3a. Re: diarhea
Posted by: "Judy McCammon" fenstokebullmastiffs@yahoo.com fenstokebullmastiffs
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 12:11 pm ((PST))

no..there is no vomiting...he is getting plenty of bone although I could try cutting down his size meals...about 8 oz./meal 4 times a day(he's a 21 pound pup) and removing the offal...it started when I slowly introdc'd heart come to think of it. Thanks for the reminders....been awhile since I had a pup.



Regards,

Judy

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From: carnesbill <carnesw@bellsouth.net>
To: rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2007 3:31:03 PM
Subject: [rawfeeding] Re: diarhea

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogro ups.com, Judy McCammon
<fenstokebullmastif fs@...> wrote:
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> have 7 week old pup with diarrhea.

The main causes of diarrhea ...
1. Too large of meals ... puppies need small frequent meals
2. Organs too early in the diet.
3. Too much fat in the diet too early.
4. Not enough bone in the diet.

Exactly what are you feeding him?

Is it truly diarrhea or just soft stools? Diarrhea is water.
Diarrhea (water stools) can be a sign of very serious illness in
young puppies particularly if vomiting is also present.

Bill Carnes
http://www.skylarza ck.com/rawfeedin g.htm

Feeding Raw since October 2002

"Unnatural diets predispose animals to unnatural outcomes"
Dr. Tom Lonsdale

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3b. Re: diarhea
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 6:07 pm ((PST))

Judy McCammon <fenstokebullmastiffs@...> wrote:
recommendations: pumpkin or just let him work it out.
*****
Forget the pumpkin. If the pup has clinical diarrhea, pumpkin will
only complicate the issue. If the pup has loose stools (my guess),
backing off, feeding less, simplifying the menu will be adequate.

Letting him work it out without adjustment on the human's part is
counterproductive. This is a team effort.
Chris O

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3c. Re: diarhea
Posted by: "Yasuko herron" sunshine_annamaria@yahoo.com sunshine_annamaria
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 6:25 pm ((PST))

>recommendations: pumpkin or just let him work it out

HI. I heara lot about pumpkin anddiarrheawhen I read on home-made diet not on raw diet. It is because of fiber in Pumpkin. Fiber bulk up the poo and make form the poo if dog did not have bone in diet.

Bone in rawdiet do the same thing. But if you were feeding bone and if you feed pumpkin,pumpkin works bothways depending on how much you give;worse diarrhea or constipation.

Like Chris has suggested,I think since we feed bone as well in diet which has same effect to pumpkin's fiber,and not too good to feed both, so,I would recommend get rid of pumpkin and adijust the diet so that you would not have same effect ever again.

if you wereusing short-cut to fix the prob,the base prob never be fixed.

So,if your dog has watery frequent uncontrolable diarrhea,fast dog and just provide liquid (water) and give slippery Elm powder or give liquid probiotic and ease the stomach.

Next time,feed small,and maybe skin off from meat you feed and try feed but if it were not solving problems, make a combo meal with protin dog is doing great on.and give probiotic or Slippery Elm with meal.

If this still make poo loose (not diarrhea),give more bone in meal and that should help.

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4a. Re: Graet Dane pups (raw fed) need a home
Posted by: "Eva Finlan" efinlan@comcast.net hddanes
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 12:11 pm ((PST))

Hi Mary,
Sorry, I forgot to post location. We are in PA.
Eva
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From: Mary Tinder
To: rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 2:43 PM
Subject: [rawfeeding] Re: Graet Dane pups (raw fed) need a home

Where are they?
Mary T

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5a. Re: Cost of feeding raw, averaged?
Posted by: "cactususan" desperatelyseekingsusan@cox.net cactususan
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 1:47 pm ((PST))

I'd say you're right on--not only on the price, but also on the
decision to go raw.

There is another way you can figure the food price: Deduct what you
will NOT be spending on the vet, and those figures can be staggering!

I went raw with my 4 dogs when I got a price quote of $400 to clean
my
13 year-old, 9# Min Pin's teeth--not to mention the risk of
anesthesia. He's already had 8 extractions due to extreme tartar--
caused by a combination of his mouth chemistry & kibble. Rudy's
mouth
STUNK like a toxic waste dump.

Two months later, ALL the dogs have clean teeth, sweet breath, and
they relish their food. This is only the immediate effect of raw
food. Who knows what other vet bills I'll avoid?

You can also deduct the special doggie toothbrushes, toothpaste,
special tartar-removing chews, Greenies, and all the other crap that
is supposed to counteract the unnatural diet of kibble.

I bought a used upright industrial freezer on Craig's List, and
stuffed it with raw food. And I STILL haven't spent that $400.!!!

Whole chicken is $.68 a pound at my local market this week. Turkeys
were $.35 per pound with a $25. purchase around Thanksgiving.

I really applaud your committment to your dog. I wish I'd come to
this information sooner...the Min Pin didn't get raw till he was 13,
and what a difference it has made in his life.

I had such a hard time gettitng over CHICKEN BONE-O-PHOBIA! When I
was a kid, we had to carry the chicken bones from dinner out to the
outside trash so our dogs wouldn't get into them, because they were
DEADLY!!! And they were--they were cooked. I can't dwell on how
things might have been if all the dogs had been fed raw from the
beginning...it's too depressing. I just have to be
glad that I'm there now.

I'm sure that the folks on this list will be very supportive. I do
believe that you need to get your parents to "buy into" this, at
least in theory. Let friends & relatinve know that you're looking
for MEAT--hunted, freezer-burned, road-kill or whatever.
Committment & devotion to purpose go along way with parents.

Keep us posted on how you do with your dog!

Susan Fortune
Southern California

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5b. Re: Cost of feeding raw, averaged?
Posted by: "mozookpr" mozookpr@yahoo.com mozookpr
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 5:45 pm ((PST))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "crzycoookies" <crzycoookies@...>
wrote:
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> +++Mod note: pls sign emails ++++
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> Righteo, I've almost completely made the decision to go raw with my 1
> yr old lab/GSD.. There is just one dilemma for me. I'm too young to
get
> a job, and I provide for my dog on a housechores allowance(I'm sure no
> one wants to hear my life story, but just explaining the situ a bit)..
> I'm a bit worried about how much it'll cost a month to feed raw? My
dog
> is 90 lbs, ideally, and I figured I'd probably be spending a dollar/lb
> on meat, right? So that'd be about $62 a month, give or take a few
> 10s.. Am I hot or cold?
>
Do as some of the experienced raw feeders have suggested -- talk to
butchers, talk to hunters, ask people to let you know if they have
aging fresh or freezer-burnt meat. You might also check with deer
processors in your area, sometimes hunters will drop off a deer and
never return to get it. The processor would probably be happy to let
you have such a deer for the cost of his work. They might give you the
bits people don't want for nothing. Just make sure all the shot is
removed from any game you feed.

Also, shop the sales! I have always loved a good bargain, even before
I started feeding raw, and now I love them even more. In the past two
weeks, I have gotten chicken leg quarters for $.39/lb, split breasts
with bone for $.99/lb, and pork butt roast for $.99/lb. You may become
such a good grocery store "hunter" that your folks ask them to shop for
them, too... ;)

If you don't have a freezer, why not ask for one for Christmas? I am
looking for one right now because I know it will pay for itself when I
can start socking away cheap (or free) meat for my pets.

Finding new sources of affordable food is kind of like a treasure
hunt. It can be a lot of fun.

Welcome, and enjoy raw feeding!

Wendy and the kids

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6a. Re: Encouraging words requested.
Posted by: "Mary Tinder" mtinder@tinderco.com mmmaryt
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 1:47 pm ((PST))

It was one of those "face the fear and do it anyway" jobs. At the
last minute I got a call back from a neighbor who agreed to hold my
hand and now the goat is in the freezer! In fact, he did most of the
knife wielding.

But the process was not so bad after all. Taking the hide off was the
most time consuming and strenuous part. Certainly made a good case
for "hide on" feeding.
Cool thing was finding my neighbor feeds raw! He gave his litter of Gr
Pyrenees pups absolutely everything that I didn't take; the entire
refuse bucket.. feet, head, guts. He told me that the cats would gnaw
on the hide.

It was much easier to recognise parts on the goat than on the fetal pig
of high school biology.

SawzAll was such a time saver!

Mary T who hunts for Rumble Dane, the Boda collie and Lily the African
Village Dog

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7a. Re: Cost of feeding raw
Posted by: "Cynthia Downer" crzycoookies@yahoo.com crzycoookies
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 1:47 pm ((PST))

Hey, thanks for all the advice. Actually, 90 lbs would be about right, or maybe even less, because he went to the vet's about 2-3 months ago, and he weighed 85 lbs.. Vet said he was a bit on the skinny side(not grossly, just could use some more meat on his bones.) My grandmother was a previous lab owner, and one of her purebreds managed to get up to 110 lbs, a big boy he was. I know of hunters(my landlord and my great aunt's friends), and a few meatshops around my area.. I just never really talk to/go to any of them. I guess I'm going to have to start getting more acquainted! And thanks to everyone else who offered some advice and knowledge that I didn't get to respond to.

Cynthia

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7b. Re: Cost of feeding raw
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 5:57 pm ((PST))

Michelle R <crested_dog8@...> wrote:>
> Actually, I would think 90# would be real heavy for a lab mix..even a
lab/GSD mix. Since I have not seen your dog in person, I cant say for
sure, but I would guesstimate closer to 75# would be a healthier
estimate, but again, I havent seen the bone/type on your dog.
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My Lab is very lean at 85 pounds (or at least, I feed him as if he
weighs 85 pounds and the amount looks good on him). He could carry
another ten pounds without looking obese; he's a big dude. I see obese
Labs that weigh as much as 120 pounds. Ninety pounds for a big LabX is
perhaps more dog than either of us might want to have, but it's not
necessarily a bad weight. (Although it sure could be!)
Chris O

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8a. Bury it
Posted by: "Laura" lasme8@yahoo.com thebunnylady
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 2:39 pm ((PST))

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I am trying to understand this behavior and wanted to know if anyone
else has experienced this. Sometimes I will give a quartered chicken
or a breast and he will take it and smell it for a while until he gets
into a comfortable position and then eats it, quickly. Sometimes he
buries it. Is he just not hungry? Can't image that is so. Tonight I
offered a whole half chicken and he burried it instantly without even
smelling it. What to do?

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8b. Re: Bury it
Posted by: "Karen Swanay" luvbullbreeds@gmail.com kswanay1111
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 4:49 pm ((PST))

Some dogs like their meat well-aged.
Karen

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8c. Re: Bury it
Posted by: "katkellm" katkellm@yahoo.com katkellm
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 4:50 pm ((PST))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "Laura" <lasme8@...> wrote:
> Tonight I
> offered a whole half chicken and he burried it instantly without even
> smelling it. What to do?

Hi Laura,
I have an aussie who buries her food sometimes. I notice that she
buries it if she isn't exceptionally hungry, think small meal a couple
of days after feeding a big meal, or if its something she isn't
particularly fond of, think goat. My other two never bury anything.
Does your dog dig it up and eat it at a later date? Addie always
brings what she buries home at a later date, one that seems to fit her
idea of when she should eat, not mine. Lots of times we can smell her
coming home before we actually see her. I guess i wouldn't worry about
it providing your dog is healthy, and you let your dog dine on it
later. KathyM

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9a. Re: NEW TO RAW FEEDING NEED ANY POINTERS
Posted by: "Sandee Lee" rlee@plix.com mariasmom2001
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 2:54 pm ((PST))

Dos...feed according to nature....lots and lots of meat, a little bit of
edible bone (around 10%) and organs (another 10%).

Don'ts...kibble and bare bones.

Sandee & the Dane Gang

From: "jawstrength101" <jawstrength101@yahoo.com>

I AM ABOUT TO START RAW FEEDING MY YARD. I AM IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING
A FRIDGE AND I HAVE AN ALMOST STEADY SUPPLIE OF ORGANMEAT AND DEER
BONES. IS THEIR ANY POINTERS ANYONE GIVE ME??? IS IT OK TO MIX HALF THE
WEEK DOG FOOD THE OTHER HALF RAW MEATY BONES (RMB)??? LIKE I SAID I
NEED TO KNOW THE MAJOR DO'S AND DONT'S THANK YOU

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10a. Re: DOES RAW FEEDING MAKE AGGRESIVE DOGS?
Posted by: "Sandee Lee" rlee@plix.com mariasmom2001
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 2:56 pm ((PST))

http://rawfed.com/myths/index.html
http://rawfed.com/myths/bloodthirsty.html

Sandee & the Dane Gang

From: "jawstrength101" <jawstrength101@yahoo.com>

DOES THE RAW MEAT MAKE FOR A MEAN DOG(OR MORE AGGRESSIVE) OR IS IT
STILL IN HOW U RAISE THEM.

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11a. I would like to ask some ???'s about Simon
Posted by: "Jordan Spiva" jordan_spiva@yahoo.com jordan_spiva
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 4:49 pm ((PST))

We might consider getting a second dog. Does Simon do
well with other nuetered males?

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11b. Re: I would like to ask some ???'s about Simon
Posted by: "Morledzep@aol.com" Morledzep@aol.com morledzep
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 6:25 pm ((PST))

In a message dated 12/9/2007 4:49:51 PM Pacific Standard Time,
jordan_spiva@yahoo.com writes:

We might consider getting a second dog. Does Simon do
well with other nuetered males?

***I may be missing something here.. but i don't see how folks on this list
are going to know if your dog gets along with other dogs, neutered or
otherwise.

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12. New raw feeder with concerns about cleanliness
Posted by: "bettathang" bettathang@yahoo.com bettathang
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 4:50 pm ((PST))

Hello All-
I've just switched my boys from Evo kibble to raw and I was wondering
what everyone else does about keeping their house clean after meal
time. They're both really good about eating in the kitchen, but their
front feet get the meaty juices on them, which they proceed to drag
around the house and onto the furniture. Any helpful hints? I'm
really concerned about my family sitting/playing/etc on raw meat slime.
Thanks!
-Heidi
(Gaston & George)

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13a. Re: Anyone feed wild hog?
Posted by: "coriowen" COwen98@aol.com coriowen
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 5:44 pm ((PST))

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> --- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "coriowen" <COwen98@> wrote:
> >
> > We live out in East Texas and we are over run with wild hogs out
here.
>
>
> Hi neighbor! I live in East Texas as well. I feed my animals wild
> hog as often as I can get one. > Donna
>
Hello to you too neighbor! =) How big is your freezer? We have two
refrigerators and one small deep freezer so I can only fit so much meat
in the freezer at one time. How many pounds of meat do you think you
get from the hogs?
Thanks for your help in advance.
Cori

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14. Allergies and Raw
Posted by: "opi1177" opi1177@yahoo.com opi1177
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 5:45 pm ((PST))

This is my very first post. I hope I am doing this right. Reese, my
Yorkie, has suffered from severe itching and allergies since she was 6
months old. She is now almost 2. We have tried many things and nothing
has worked. I decided to try a more natural and holistic approach to
deal with this, and raw seems the way to go. I just got her allergy
tested and unfortunately she is allergic to everything under the sun.
I was feeding her NV Venison raw medallions, but had to stop with that
because she is allergic to flax and eggs which is in that food. She is
also allergic to poultry, soy, barley, corn and oats..so I am limited
with what I can feed her to say the least!! I got Primal raw, which
doesn't contain any of those things, but does have a good amount of
other things that were not even on her test, and I fear she may be
allergic to them also. I just want to feed her as basic as I can. I
know many of you follow the prey model, and I was wondering if you can
give me outline of how get started meal-wise, what to feed her and
such. Since chicken is out, I am feeling a little helpless since I
know chicken legs is the easiest way to start and easy on digestion
for most dogs!! I actually tried feeding her raw chicken before I
knew she was allergic and she was throwing up for 3 days!!I just don't
know what to do at this point!! Thanks so much. Looking forward to
hearing from you all!
Laura

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15a. ADMIN/Re: Graet Dane pups (raw fed) need a home
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 6:00 pm ((PST))

TAKE THIS TOPIC PRIVATE PLEASE.
Chris O
Mod Team

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