[rawfeeding] Digest Number 12233

There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: How large is a gorge meal?
From: jennifer_hell
1b. Re: How large is a gorge meal?
From: costrowski75

2a. Re: Feeding whole prey in close quarters???
From: In The Nick Of Time Animal Rescue

3a. Re: still swallowing whole
From: connie

4a. Re: QUESTION ABOUT EGGS
From: harrynala
4b. Re: QUESTION ABOUT EGGS
From: harrynala
4c. Re: QUESTION ABOUT EGGS
From: katkellm
4d. Re: QUESTION ABOUT EGGS
From: Scott Baker
4e. Re: QUESTION ABOUT EGGS
From: cynthiashankman
4f. Re: QUESTION ABOUT EGGS
From: costrowski75
4g. Re: QUESTION ABOUT EGGS
From: costrowski75
4h. Re: QUESTION ABOUT EGGS
From: costrowski75

5a. Re: Feeding the Senior Dog
From: mikkeny
5b. Re: Feeding the Senior Dog
From: costrowski75
5c. Re: Feeding the Senior Dog
From: Dinah

6a. Exactly what IS a knuckle bone?
From: totaly_his
6b. Re: Exactly what IS a knuckle bone?
From: Anntiga@aol.com
6c. Re: Exactly what IS a knuckle bone?
From: costrowski75
6d. Re: Exactly what IS a knuckle bone?
From: costrowski75
6e. Re: Exactly what IS a knuckle bone?
From: Anntiga@aol.com
6f. Re: Exactly what IS a knuckle bone?
From: costrowski75
6g. Re: Exactly what IS a knuckle bone?
From: Anntiga@aol.com

7a. Re: Weatherwax Lassie Dogs Eating Raw Diet
From: costrowski75

8. Eggs for cats?
From: persephoneinfall

9a. Re: Puppy is still throwing up
From: Alecia Hammack

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1a. Re: How large is a gorge meal?
Posted by: "jennifer_hell" jenniferhell@web.de jennifer_hell
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2007 6:31 am ((PDT))

> --- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "raven4519" <raven4519@> wrote:
> >
> I would
> > like him to feel truly full but am worried he would eat till he
> > exploded if I let him.
>

This is what works for us: I give Mandy stuff that is really hard to
eat (like meat that is hard to take off a bone). When she's not really
hungry anymore, she finds it too much hard work and stops. Lol!! I'm
pretty convinced that she would eat until she explodes if it was stuff
that's easy to eat.

Jennifer with Mandy

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1b. Re: How large is a gorge meal?
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2007 8:10 am ((PDT))

"raven4519" <raven4519@...> wrote:
I would
> like him to feel truly full but am worried he would eat till he
> exploded if I let him. Have given him about 3& 1/2 lbs at a time
> before and he still wanted more.
*****
If you want to feed to satiety, give your boy a full shoulder roast
or the greater part of a turkey and see what he does.

You may decide it ain't worth it, feeding to satiety. My 60lb golden
bitch easily eats through 10% body weight; my Lab clearly is not
fazed by big food; my foofoo golden eats slower than dial up internet
but even HE will pack in the chow well beyond three and half pounds.
So rarely do I worry about feeding them to their gluttonous
satisfaction.

I give them meals of engaging size and complication and usually the
difficulty factory takes the edge off their need to pork out.
Certainly these meals are large enough to warrant one if not two
subsequent no-meal days without them getting particularly nervy about
it.

A food obsessed dog is not healthy, just as no obsession is healthy.
If you really feel big ain't never gonna be big enough for him, don't
push it. Go for complicated instead and see if that helps.
Chris O

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2a. Re: Feeding whole prey in close quarters???
Posted by: "In The Nick Of Time Animal Rescue" bygdawg318@yahoo.com bygdawg318
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2007 6:41 am ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "miensasis" <kpmnlm@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone...
>
> For us feeding a whole deer carcass is
> not possible, but is there anyone that feeds smaller whole animals
> (like rabbits) inside their homes? Exactly how messy (i.e.
bloody)
> is it?

Nancy,

I feed 6 kitties and 2 large dogs whole prey as often as I can get
it. Actually, last night my dogs each had a whole rabbit (organs,
fur, and all), and the kitties each had half of a wood duck. My dogs
are messsssssssy eaters, so the best thing I've found is to feed
them in their crates. I line their crates with those "kindermats"
(the little mats kids take naps on at school) because they are the
perfect size and plastic so they are easily cleaned. After feeding
time I just take out the mats, wipe them down with vinegar and call
it day! As far as the kitties, I literally cover my kitchen floor
with a tarp (yes, my friends think I'm crazy lol). After they are
finished I just pick it up, spray it with vinegar and hose it off
outside. I hope this helps :)

Jeanne and Krewe

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3a. Re: still swallowing whole
Posted by: "connie" justbullies@hotmail.com bullienut
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2007 7:09 am ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "delcaste" <delcaste@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, Connie thanks for your suggestions. I like to feed goat and
I
> hadn't thought of taking off the thick fat since she's always eaten
it.
>
> Silvina
>
Hey Silvia,
If I were you I would start over with this girl. What I did with my
gulper was mix ground with water so it is really sloppy so he
couldn`t gulp but had to half drink it. He gets chicken and rabbit
1/2`s now and I have to cut his beef and pork small like stew meat
size peices. Maybe add water to that to so she doesn`t gulp them all
at once either. I have a meat slicer and slice beef tongue into thin
strips for everyone as none of them can handle the tough meats like
that. He gets beef ribs for rec. bones. He probablly doesn`t get the
complete workout the others are (and should) But I know his diet is
great. I give him bully sticks a few times a week. Oh, and he also
gets ground tripe. I have always cut off the big hunks of fat off
anything as I believe that is a contibuter to pancreatis. And in the
wild they usually wouldn`t encounter such fatty meats. Most wild game
is lean. My dogs tend to get loose stools from it anyway. The water
thing in the bowl of food really works for me and Henry :)
~connie~
and a bunch of bulldogs
www.justbullies.com

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4a. Re: QUESTION ABOUT EGGS
Posted by: "harrynala" michelle@synertex.co.uk harrynala
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2007 7:10 am ((PDT))

"ben" <ben1721@...> wrote:

> Sorry, not entirely related to the cooked vs raw egg issue, but I
was
> wondering how most of you feed eggs to your dogs.....If you give a
> whole egg, could it be a choking hazard? Thanks for your help!

Hi, I feed one egg a day each - I used to feed it whole and enjoyed
watching them roll it around first. They are apprehensive at first,
so I started them off with a cracked egg so they could get the idea,
then gradually a dented shell, then just whole - mine never attempted
to swallow it whole.

However, I don't do that anymore, I feed just the egg yolk separated
from the white, as I read somewhere that the egg white contains
avidin which has a reducing effect on the vitamin B5 that the yolk
contains. It isn't enough for concern, however I figure that it's
better for them to have the full whack of B5 that the yolk contains,
so out went the egg white (into meringues for us!!)

HTH
Michelle

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4b. Re: QUESTION ABOUT EGGS
Posted by: "harrynala" michelle@synertex.co.uk harrynala
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2007 7:25 am ((PDT))

Sorry, I need to correct myself! It's biotin that egg yolk contains
(not B5, oops!) and the avidin in egg white strips biotin, hence why I
separate the egg yolks. Personal choice I guess.

Michelle

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4c. Re: QUESTION ABOUT EGGS
Posted by: "katkellm" katkellm@yahoo.com katkellm
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2007 7:33 am ((PDT))

--- In rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com, "harrynala" <michelle@...> wrote:
> However, I don't do that anymore, I feed just the egg yolk separated
> from the white, as I read somewhere that the egg white contains
> avidin which has a reducing effect on the vitamin B5 that the yolk
> contains.

Hi Michelle,
Check out this post from Carrie.

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfeeding/message/141967

So if you are tired of meringue pie, you can feed it to the dog.<g>
KathyM

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4d. Re: QUESTION ABOUT EGGS
Posted by: "Scott Baker" scottsbaker@gmail.com scottpsbaker
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2007 8:06 am ((PDT))

Do a bit more reading on eggs and Biotin. Yes this speaks of Humans but I
believe we can apply the same to dogs in this case

http://www.aeb.org/LearnMore/Eggcyclopedia/A.htm

*Biotin *

One of the B vitamins which plays an important role in cell metabolism and
the utilization of fats, proteins and carbohydrates. Biotin is present in
many foods including egg yolk and is synthesized by the body. Avidin, one of
the egg proteins, can combine with biotin and make it unavailable. However,
a human would have to eat 24 raw egg whites a day for biotin to be inhibited
by avidin. Heat inactivates the avidin and most eggs are served cooked. *-see
Avidin *

**

*Avidin *

A protein found in small amounts (about .05%) in egg albumen. Avidin is
inactivated by heat.

On 11/3/07, harrynala <michelle@synertex.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I need to correct myself! It's biotin that egg yolk contains
> (not B5, oops!) and the avidin in egg white strips biotin, hence why I
> separate the egg yolks. Personal choice I guess.
>
> Michelle
> .
>
>
>

--
Scott

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4e. Re: QUESTION ABOUT EGGS
Posted by: "cynthiashankman" ShankMa4@aol.com cynthiashankman
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2007 8:07 am ((PDT))

> > In fact in fact, I recommend you add bits of pork and beef and
> > whatever else you got while you are still in the chicken mode.
> >
> > Use chicken as a platform to build on, not jump off from.
> > Chris O
> >
>
> Chris...
>
> Thanks for the informative response. Your suggestion to look at
> chicken as a platform to build on is so helpful and makes perfect
sense!
>
> Nancy

Hi Nancy,
As a fellow beginner I want to pass a raw feeding insight on to
you ...Once you are confident with feeding chicken, and you move on to
other meats, it is helpful to realize that lots of meals will be
boneless, as in -- just meat meals. 80% meat, 10% bone, and 10% organ
makes for a whole lot of boneless meals. I want to pass this on to you
b/c after feeding chicken in the beginning, which contains bone, it can
be surprising to feed just meat. Just wanted to give a fellow beginner
a head's up!!!
Cindi

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4f. Re: QUESTION ABOUT EGGS
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2007 8:26 am ((PDT))

"ben" <ben1721@...> wrote:>
> Sorry, not entirely related to the cooked vs raw egg issue,
*****
It is perfectly fine to start a new topic when you have a new topic to
discuss. Rather than posting a topic you fear may be unrelated, how
about just starting a new one altogether? I mean, you can certainly
tack a post on for the ride but starting your own thread makes it
easier for archive browsers. Mostly though, if you got questions, ask
them however you have to.

I was> wondering how most of you feed eggs to your dogs.
*****
I feed eggs when I remember to, which isn't often. For no reason other
than absentmindedness eggs tend to be peripheral in my dogs' diet. I
dole out them out an egg a dog and let the dogs handle the
deconstruction. I might dump an egg into a bowl of chopped green tripe
but probably not. Rarely do I feed meals into which an egg can be
blended.

You can feed eggs however it suits you to.
Chris O

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4g. Re: QUESTION ABOUT EGGS
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2007 8:37 am ((PDT))

"harrynala" <michelle@...> wrote:
I feed just the egg yolk separated
> from the white, as I read somewhere that the egg white contains
> avidin which has a reducing effect on the vitamin B5 that the yolk
> contains.
*****
This is complete and utter nonsense. All the yolk (fat) plus all the
white (protein) plus all the shell (calcium and minerals) is a fine
fully nutritious food.
Chris O

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4h. Re: QUESTION ABOUT EGGS
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2007 8:40 am ((PDT))

"harrynala" <michelle@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I need to correct myself! It's biotin that egg yolk contains
> (not B5, oops!) and the avidin in egg white strips biotin, hence why
I
> separate the egg yolks. Personal choice I guess.
*****
Personal choice based on misinformation. First thing is to fully
understand the issue, THEN make a decision.

To avoid the "my mind is made up, don't confuse me with the facts"
syndrome.
Chris O

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5a. Re: Feeding the Senior Dog
Posted by: "mikkeny" mikken@neo.rr.com mikkeny
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2007 7:24 am ((PDT))

>The recent cbcs came back
> with high protein levels, as well as high sodium and triglycerides.
> Nothing was off the charts high, but my vet had concern at my dogs age
> and the high protein.

<snip>

> A typical meal for my guys is a boneless meal one day (with salmon oil
> and Solid Gold multivitamin) and then a bone in meal the next. I feed
> a mixture of beef, chicken, turkey, and occasionally pork and goat.
> Their bone in meal is generally a chicken leg quarter, while the
> boneless meat is a protein source other than chicken. I sometimes
> include a egg and or yogurt, but that is only every once and a while.

Dinah,

I'm with Sandee - this doesn't sound like a dietary tweaking is needed
here (except to get rid of that multivitamin - I looked it up and if
it's the one I found online with ginger, alfalfa, and cinnamon in it,
it needs to go).

Slightly high blood protein and sodium both point to mild dehydration
more than anything in my book. The triglycerides may be normal for
this dog, the result of odd supplements (we know that cinnamon may
reduce human triglycerides, but do we know what it does to canine
levels?), or a symptom of some other process (like hypothyroidism,
which can manifest as high triglycerides).

Unexplained lameness makes me think things like injury, tick borne
illness, etc.

Reducing protein intake for this dog would, imo, be a mistake.
Seniors (although 9.5 yrs. in a corgi isn't really "senior" in my
book) need protein to maintain their muscle mass.

FWIW.

Casey

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5b. Re: Feeding the Senior Dog
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2007 7:54 am ((PDT))

"Dinah" <dinah_kay@...> wrote:
My corgi, who is 9 1/2 yrs
> old,
*****
Heck, this is hardly senior. Truth is, some dogs are senior at five
and some are spring chickens at 11. Age should not drive diet
decisions. Ability and results should.

he said that in a older
> dog I need to be concerned about the high protein level as well as
> sodium.
*****
A senior dogs needs high quality protein exactly as a youngster and
an adult does. I suspect that though he doesn't bug you about
feeding raw your vet is firmly old school in regards to seniors and
protein level. Simply put, he is incorrect. Insofar as dietary
protein goes, a species appropriate diet continues to be the gold
standard. No veggies unless and until your corgi is diagnosed with
final stages renal failure. Grains never are easier to digest than
animal protein and never provide appropriate nutrition.

> A typical meal for my guys is a boneless meal one day (with salmon
oil
> and Solid Gold multivitamin) and then a bone in meal the next. I
feed
> a mixture of beef, chicken, turkey, and occasionally pork and goat.
> Their bone in meal is generally a chicken leg quarter, while the
> boneless meat is a protein source other than chicken. I sometimes
> include a egg and or yogurt, but that is only every once and a
while.
*****
IMO the menu could use more red meat and less poultry and my guess is
the multi vitamin does more for your sense of duty than it does their
health (if the multi includes minerals I suggest you rethink your
product choice). Other than that, there is nothing I can see that
could be construed as inappropriately high protein levels.
Chris O

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5c. Re: Feeding the Senior Dog
Posted by: "Dinah" dinah_kay@msn.com dinahkay78
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2007 12:08 pm ((PDT))

MODERATORS NOTE:SIGN YOUR MAILS!!!

Thanks everyone! Just FYI the lameness was a strained muscle since he
was trying to keep pace with my 2 and 3 yr old border collie mixes. He
has slowed down in the past year or so, just now starting to show his
age. I like feeding the multi-vitamin just to cover and things I am
missing since I don't have a lot of options for organs here. I
understand that veggies are part of the prey model, but could some one
let me know what is wrong with adding a few green veggies? Will it
cause any problems, or is it just wasteful to feed a few veggies on
the side while keeping up with everything else? Also for Chris they do
get red meat about 2 or 3 times a week. I am hoping to get some
venison soon, so then they would be getting more.

Thanks!!!

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6a. Exactly what IS a knuckle bone?
Posted by: "totaly_his" totaly_his@yahoo.com totaly_his
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2007 8:07 am ((PDT))

Going on 4 weeks of raw feeding and everything is going very well. I bought a package of
beef neck bones that looks fairly large at the supermarket to give to my dog. Would this be
considered a knuckle bone? I don't wan't to give it to her if it is because I don't want to risk
her breaking a tooth. Is this bone one of the "good" bones to feed? Thanks for your help,
Jackie

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6b. Re: Exactly what IS a knuckle bone?
Posted by: "Anntiga@aol.com" Anntiga@aol.com anntiga
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2007 8:30 am ((PDT))

Knuckle bones in four legged animals are the bones located where the
animal's "knee" would be, between the upper leg and the lower leg bones. They are
large, kind of roundish bones.

Knuckle bones are very hard. They can chip and/or break a dog's teeth.

IF you watch your dog very carefully and IF you know your dog will not try
to chew on the bone, the connective tissues of the knuckle bones are great for
the dogs to eat. This would not be for a meal. this list does not
recommend feeding knuckle bones.

Here is a link to a picture of the anatomy of a cow:
_http://www.rescuecritters.com/1587799014.jpg_ (http://www.rescuecritters.com/1587799014.jpg)

Ann and Norman (Portuguese Water Dog)
San Francisco Peninsula, CA, USA

"Never underestimate the warmth of a cold nose."

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6c. Re: Exactly what IS a knuckle bone?
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2007 9:13 am ((PDT))

"totaly_his" <totaly_his@...> wrote:
I bought a package of
> beef neck bones that looks fairly large at the supermarket to give
to my dog. Would this be
> considered a knuckle bone?
*****
Neck bones that look fairly large are almost certainly not meaty
enough to count as a meal as well as being too small for unsupervised
chomping. Unless you are feeding a wee small dog. For example, a
sliced neck bone would be a good fun meal for my 10lb cat. For my
30lb BC it would be too small. My guess is some dogs can power
through longer lengths of necks without too much trouble; these dogs
will still be getting a fairly meatless meal though.

I believe the knuckle bone is the pastern (the round bone above the
hoof at the south end of the leg, below the knee or hock). These
come off the cow with very little flesh attached.

Usually the knobby protrusions can be eaten from the neck bone.
Beyond these knobs, at least for my dogs, the spine is pretty
difficult though not as potentially dangerous as knuckles or
femurs.
Chris O

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6d. Re: Exactly what IS a knuckle bone?
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2007 9:22 am ((PDT))

Anntiga@... wrote:
>
> Knuckle bones in four legged animals are the bones located where the
> animal's "knee" would be, between the upper leg and the lower leg
bones. They are
> large, kind of roundish bones.
*****
The chart comes up too small to read. Which is a shame because it's my
understanding that the knee is the knee and the hock is the hock and
the knuckle is the pastern which is the round bone above the foot. If
that too-small chart clearly shows the knuckle somewhere else, I hope
there's a larger image to view.

Is there?
Chris O

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6e. Re: Exactly what IS a knuckle bone?
Posted by: "Anntiga@aol.com" Anntiga@aol.com anntiga
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2007 9:45 am ((PDT))

Chris, you are so much more knowledgeable that me. I was attempting to give
a layman's description of what I thought the knuckle bone was. You are much
clearer.

I could find several links to that same Cow Anatomy chart including some
that allow you to purchase the chart. I just couldn't find a larger version of
the chart.

In addition to being weak in anatomy, my computer skills can use some homing
also. I was hoping someone on this list would know of a way to enlarge the
chart.

Thanks,

Ann and Norman (Portuguese Water Dog)
San Francisco Peninsula, CA, USA

"Never underestimate the warmth of a cold nose."

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6f. Re: Exactly what IS a knuckle bone?
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2007 10:13 am ((PDT))

Anntiga@... wrote:
>
> Chris, you are so much more knowledgeable that me. I was attempting
to give
> a layman's description of what I thought the knuckle bone was. You
are much
> clearer.
*****
Yeah, but that doesn't make me right! Just clearer. Wrong, but
clearer. I hope there's a source authority we can access. Could be
the front leg knee. Actually makes sense because the pastern bone
seems smaller than the average whole knuckle.

I suspect this is a job for...ButcherMan!
Chris O

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6g. Re: Exactly what IS a knuckle bone?
Posted by: "Anntiga@aol.com" Anntiga@aol.com anntiga
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2007 10:52 am ((PDT))

In a message dated 11/3/2007 10:14:23 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
Chriso75@AOL.COM writes:

I suspect this is a job for...ButcherMan!

Hopefully he can enlarge Internet charts also.

Ann and Norman (Portuguese Water Dog)
San Francisco Peninsula, CA, USA

"Never underestimate the warmth of a cold nose."

************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

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7a. Re: Weatherwax Lassie Dogs Eating Raw Diet
Posted by: "costrowski75" Chriso75@AOL.COM costrowski75
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2007 8:31 am ((PDT))

"jennifer_hell" <jenniferhell@...> wrote:
> "Dad also knew that the first part of a kill a wild animal would go
> for is the intestines and stomach where the greens were being
> digested. Dogs need some complex carbohydrates along with meat, but
> they're not inclined to graze for them as cows and sheep do. To
> accommodate this part of the diet, Dad would add some greens to the
> meat, along with eggs, eggshells for additional calcium, and goat's
> milk as well."
>
> Um, looks like Dad got it wrong here.
*****
Boy howdy, Jennifer!
Probably best for Lassie that Weatherwax IS feeding prefab food, given
the misconceptions that would otherwise drive the poor dog's diet.

Whaddaya wanna bet Weatherwax is a paid spokesperson for whatever
prefab he's feeding?
Chris

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8. Eggs for cats?
Posted by: "persephoneinfall" persephoneinfall@gmail.com persephoneinfall
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2007 8:46 am ((PDT))

I was just wondering if people out there feed their cats eggs. If so,
how do you do it? Do you mix up the raw egg, or just crack it in a
bowl? Did your cats realize they could eat it right away? And what
are the benefits? How often do you feed them?
Thanks!
Annette

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9a. Re: Puppy is still throwing up
Posted by: "Alecia Hammack" akhwbj1@yahoo.com akhwbj1
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2007 11:04 am ((PDT))

Laurie,

We are feeding him twice a day once in the morning about 7 or 8 am, and then again at night around 6 or 7 pm. He gets a chicken leg in the mornings and then he gets the thigh in the evening. If he doesn't finish all of the chicken leg in the morning then we offer that to him first and if he eats it and still is hungry then he works on the thigh and we save what he doesn't eat for the morning. We will be at our 2 week mark tomorrow and he still is throwing up some. He has been to the vet, because he threw up and quit breathing. He staid a whole weekend in puppy ICU at the vets and they could not figure out what was wrong. We tried feeding him puppy food when we got him home and he sitll threw up. So we decided to switch to raw and he did great the first few days only throwing up small amounts and re-eating them. Now he is starting to throw up like he did before. I don't think we can give him a break because he acts like he is starving now. We are so new to this and just
need help. Thanks so much for responding.

Alecia

Laurie Swanson <laurie@mckinneyphoto.com> wrote:
Poor little guy! How many times a day are you feeding? What exactly
are you feeding now? Does he have any other health issues/symptoms?
Are there certain meals that seem to stay down better? Does he throw
up his food immediately? Have you tried giving his system a break and
not feeding for a meal or two (maybe even a full day, and then re-
introducing food in small amounts and building back up to regular
meals)? Not that the vet would necessarily have an answer or any help,
but have you been?

Laurie

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