Re: [rawfeeding] Re: Help please...blockage??

Hi Giselle, thank you for replying and for your concern.  When I say "small"; I mena "smaller" in comparison to the MASSIVE smelly piles I was picking up when they were on K%$##^.  Just last night I packed 14 meals in ziplock bags for each dog, because we are going out of town, and I don't trust or want to worry abou the pet sitter deciding what to feed.
So, a sample day for Rolex(175lbs) is half a whole chicken(innards included(they seem tiny) in the morning; and a quarter of a whole chicken plus a chicken breast and pigs foot at night.  He gets about 3 1/2 lbs.  But we have not been giving very much organ meat yet at all.  Mostly chicken quartes, parts of a whole chicken, breasts, and really good beef scrap. Where I think I went wrong with Rolex was giving him too much lamb the other night.
He is wretching now??  :(  But still running around the yard, wagging his tail. He is not in any discomfort.

I thinkI am feeding enough meat.  The only bone they are getting is from the chicken breasts or leg quartes, but they get extra meat with that.  I will keep an eye on all of them and add some more chicken to their meal.  I think I will fast all of them this morning and start again tonight with one simple protein.  I thought they might enjoy the pigs feet and didn't think there was much harm in them.  Also they have gotten beef scrap from the start and seem to do well on it.

Thanks again!
Chelsea

-----Original Message-----
From: Giselle <megan.giselle@gmail.com>
To: rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 8:52 pm
Subject: [rawfeeding] Re: Help please...blockage??

Hi, Chelsea!
You said "I get mixed stools, most everyone is great (powdery, white,
SMALL, stools)"
These are not great stools - too much bone! If you are getting these
kind of stools regularly, you are not feeding enough muscle meat.
Time to rethink what you are feeding. The "rule of thumb" is *about*
80% meat (muscle, skin, connective tissue) 10% organ 92-5% liver) and
10% bone.
Stools will reflect what your dog has eaten recently, but diarrhea or
dry, crumbly white stools aren't ideal. Your dog is probably just
having some distress from too much variety too soon with some too bony
meals prior to that.
Fast him for a meal, or two, give him access to plenty of water, the
problem should pass ; ) soon.
Try to keep it to one protein source at first, maybe for a couple
weeks. You have a giant breed, you could feed whole chickens or half
turkeys. Keep the organs simple, too. Chicken or turkey heart and
gizzards can be fed as meat, but liver can be very loosening. Just a
little bit with each meal, maybe the just size of your thumb.
You could add small chunks of meat to the old protein at meal time
when starting a new protein, if your guys tend to get digestive upsets
with new foods.
TC
Giselle
with Bea in New Jersey

> Hello again everyone! I think we are doing pretty good on the raw
feeding so far. I get mixed stools, most everyone is great (powdery,
white, SMALL, stools), but I have been a little worried about my
biggest guy Rolex. I have not see him go to the bathroom (he usually
goes at the dog park in the mornings) for two days. I know he must be
going, but now with the "new" poop we are having a hard time
deciphering who's his who's! LOL But just now, I saw him strain for
about 2 minutes, trying to go. He went a little, and it was really
soft, and then he strained some more. He did have lamb last night for
the first time. If he had a blockage, nothing would come out, right?
He has not had any huge bones?? Should I be concerned. I gently
palpated his abdomen and he doesn't seem the least bit uncomfortable,
but he is panting a little more than normal...then again it is hotter
than normal and he is 175 lb mastiff?? Just a little freaked and want
some advice before I give him his dinner.
>
> Thanks!
> Chelsea
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