[rawfeeding] Re: Confused on feeding Turkey & Pork

"clittleidiot" <karen@...> wrote:
>
> I'm really sorry, this is all new to me and I haven't even started
> feeding my dogs raw.
*****
Sorry for what? For not knowing? For not knowing that some day
you'd want to know? Pfft. Don't be silly.

I'm seeing a specialist
> next week to help me make a raw meal diet plan for my dogs.
*****
This would be a grevious error. You do not need a diet specialist; if
you want to know how to best feed your domestic wolves you should
look to what Mother Nature has been doing quite successfully for a
million years or so. The basics: 10% consumable bone; 10% internal
organs of which half can be liver; 80% meat, including fat,
connective tissue and skin as well as flesh. All raw, nothing
cooked, fermented, or processed.

That's it.

No veggies, no fruit, no grains, no dairy, no vitamins or minerals or
micro- or phyto-nutrients.

> Is it okay to feed Turkey and Pork. I've been told all my life
not
> to ever feed dogs turkey or pork. Something about an enzyme in
> turkey is deadly and that pork is too high in sodium. Or am I
> totally wrong.
*****
You may right that you were told these things; but these things are
totally wrong.

Turkey has tryptophan, so do all meats; it is an essential amino
acid. We hear about all sorts of terrible post-Thanksgiving turkey
upsets not because turkey is a bad meat but because people overfeed
their unprepared dogs and/or feed large amounts of cooked fat and
bones. Raw turkey is not only fine, it can be a staple resource.

Pork can also be fed as a staple protein source. It is easily
digested, generally affordable, and available year round. Naturally
occurring sodium ought not be a problem for any dog. Here, from the
USDA Nutrient Database, is a comparison of pork to beef:

http://grande.nal.usda.gov/NDL/index.html
Pork, composite of retail cuts, raw, sodium
100g - 55mg
One pound - 249mg

Beef, arm chuck roast, raw, sodium
100g - 57mg
One pound - 259mg

As you can see, not particularly a problem.

And do you feed normally chicken with the occasion
> pork, beef, rabbit etc.. and organs.
*****
I personally feed pork, beef, rabbit, etc. with the occasional
chicken!

Chicken is not a special food, other than being available and
reasonably priced and easy to find (sounds very much like pork). If
circumstances require that you rely heavily on chicken, do so; it
does not otherwise deserve top billing.

I'm trying to figure this all
> out, so I understand everything next week at my appointment.
*****
I doubt you will, in that short a time. I recommend you don't even
try...only thing I see as important is to cancel the meeting with the
nutritionist.

> One other thing, I've been reading that alot of dogs get the runs
> when stitched over, is this normal,
*****
It is not uncommon if too much food is fed, or too much fat. It is
not standard procedure though.

cause my sister is getting
> married in a week and I'm traveling with my dogs for 9 hours in the
> car, and I'm thinking I might wait to change their diet until we
get
> back,
*****
I think you should. I generally reccomend people just get on with
feeding raw, but I don't see focus time in your life at the moment
and that alone can cause menu mistakes you don't need right now.
Perhaps while you are away you can log some browse time on the
rawfeeding message archives; also here are some links you might like:
http://rawfed.com
http://rawfeddogs.net
http://rawlearning.com

Chris O

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