[rawfeeding] Advice for a (hopefully) new raw feeder...

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Helloo fellow raw feeders! I have two LARGE questions for which I
hope to receive a response (and will definitely appreciate)..

A) My sister in law just got her 15 year old daughter a puppy (the
runt) – not that the term `runt' ever mattered and definitely not
when you're feeding her (in this case hopefully) a raw diet. Well, I
am hoping my sister will agree to go that way. She is pretty
squeamish, re: the `handling of raw meat' thing… The puppy is a boxer
X G/shepherd/husky, so is likely to be big and active. Herewith the
feeding advice I mailed her:

1) Get some small freezer bags and prepare and freeze whatever meat
you buy (a week at least in advance for your convenience) into puppy
portions.

1.2) Defrost in lukewarm water before giving to her (best feed her
outside) although dogs can tolerate frozen meat (not like cats).

2) You can start her off on chicken thighs, chicken drumsticks or
Maryland cuts ON the bone 2-3 times per day. Raw bones surrounded by
lots of meat are fine for her, it's the COOKED bare bones that cause
all the cr@p.

2.2) Don't give her chicken necks, wings or backs to start - too bony
and you know how puppies gulp. Maybe Kailla (the owner/daughter)
wants to watch her eat for the first two weeks just to be sure. Also,
even when she gets big don't give her 'heavy' bare bones, like cow
leg bones / marrow bones, etc.

2.3) Give her a chicken foot once in a while to munch if you can
handle it.

2) Give her a meal of (mostly) cheap raw beef (like you'd buy for
goulash or similar) mixed up with 1-2 raw chicken liver, 1/4 of a
beef or mutton heart and a raw egg 3 times per week.

3) Once she's handled the first two weeks ok you can buy her beef /
pork ribs, cheap whole fish with scales, bones and all (like
mackerel - which is a great 'whole' food, but start her off early on
fish, giving her bits of raw flesh mixed in her food so she learns to
appreciate it);

3.2) Basically you can feed her whatever cheap meat you want - if its
fit for people its fit for dogs and cats.

4) She MUST get organ meat at least twice a week. Sorry... Buy her a
beef heart and just hand it to her. Toss her a chicken liver before
her main meal 2-3 times per week. Babe, I have heard of vegetarians
who have converted their animals over to raw, even though they hate
meat themselves, never mind handling it just so's their animals get
the benefit.

4.1) Don't worry about bacteria, or her getting salmonella from raw
eggs or that she'll attack children or your cats when she's bigger
(complete trollop) or any of that stuff. Go to the following two
websites to read more if you have any concerns about the above, or
anything else:

www.rawfeddogs.net - this one has great menus but don't look at the
pics yet if you're squeamish.

www.rawlearning.com - both are excellent but this is also very
informative.

It is seriously not complicated, inconvenient or expensive. Her poo's
will be small, non-stinky and will decompose within a few days - not
like those huge brown stinkbombs that mar the lawns of modern
suburbia. You will hardly need to pick sh!t up at all. And even if
you do, it will almost be a pleasure. Heee!! Let me know.

Question 2 (my personal question):

B) My cats problem is that if he isn't having the runs (which
occurred when I gave him a large snack of liver on its own once in a
while (like once every 2 weeks) and which I haven't done again since
learning not to) is that he's having these VERY solid (good), dry
(good), tiny (once again, good) poo's which stick to his bum (not so
good) and when I catch him at it are getting dragged out of the tray
and rubbed off on couches, bed linen, etc – which is hardly his fault
but you know where I am coming from) … Why is this happening and what
can I do to help him? Does he need more oil in his diet? Logically I
wouldn't think so, since how many wild cats get `enough' oil in their
diet apart from fish (when they are lucky enough to get fish in the
first place) – Or does he need something else that I'm missing?

Anyway, herewith his `schedule':

He's 4 ½ months old; He devours (in the BIGGEST sense of the word
 )
2 whole quails p/day, with heart, liver, kidney etc included. 2-3
times per week he gets a fish oil capsule, beef meat, mutton brain,
whole fish, egg yolk; once a week I give him a small baby
multivitamin dose (just to be sure); he is not adverse to cows milk –
I mean it doesn't give him the squirts; umm, what else….

Pls help. Neither My hubby is definitely not a `cat' person (neither
am I truth be told) but he's sweet and naughty and beautiful and I
would hate to give this little dude his marching orders because he
cr@ps on our linen when I know it could probably be prevented…

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