Re: [rawfeeding] Re: goggling and growling if withdrawing food

Giselle,

We do the ball thing and Connor runs up and down and hell Keirnan is
seriously not interested. In giving them a leg quarter a piece and anything
they have not eaten in 15 minutes take it up. Well for Keirnan this would
not be a problem but Connor like to woof down his food a dachshund trait.
So if he ate the entire leg quarter I could not feed him anything for the
day cause I am very cautious about his weight he is 14 inches long nose to
base of his tail. So I don't want back problems if hr gets to heavy and I
know exercise is the key. Keirnan I would give him the drumstick cause he
has such a small mouth compared to Connor. He is also very picky unlike
Connor. Connor will eat anything I put in his bowl. But both are loving
this diet. Keirnan is now running to his create to eat which totally amazing
Oh yes something I wanted to say is Connor growled a bit at me cause my
hand went into his create. I will not have that. He never did that with
kibble I could have my hand all in his bowl. I know this is prey instinct
but I am pack leader in this pack. Some of you will think I am nut. I pull
him out of his create took the food.flipped him on his back a submissive
position,placed my hand on his throat with a little pressure with my face in
his. Yes he could have bit the snot out of me. But I knew in my heart he
would not. Now he does not growl at me if my hand goes into his create. I
don't think he will have anything left over of an entire leg quarter. But
there might be after 15 minutes. But he understands now how feeds and runs
this pack cause dachshund are a seriously pack oriented dog. They are the
most loving things but they will test pecking order.

Rana

-------Original Message-------

From: Giselle
Date: 6/9/2007 12:19:55 PM
To: rawfeeding@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [rawfeeding] Re: New Here (after computer problems

Hi, Rana!
For exercise suggestions, do they like balls or squeaky toys? You can
toss these toys down a long hallway for exercise if they will chase
them, even if the don't bring them back - you just need a bunch of
them. When the toys are all at the other end of the hall, just swap
ends with them! If they won't chase them, you could try tying toys on
a piece of long cord and dragging and twitching it across the floor -
putting a bit of meat/fish juice or tying a soft bone to it makes it
more interesting, too.
As for feeding recommendations; I suggest you are making feeding your
dogs unnecessarily complicated and are not giving them the nutrition
they really need.
Also, the raw food you are feeding is too bony by itself.
-Ditch all the other "stuff" you are feeding, give it to a shelter or
rescue group if you are reluctant to throw it away.
-Go to the grocery store; buy several whole chickens. Be sure there
are no salt solutions, *retained water, flavorings or seasonings -added.
-Cut them up into quarters.
-Offer them each a quarter at one meal a day.
-Whatever each of them hasn't eaten in about 15 minutes, pick up and
put back in the fridge.
-Serve the rest of this portion the next day.
=Offer a tiny piece of the liver (the size of your thumbnail) or
gizzard or heart as a 'snack' to each of them at some other time of day.
Repeat.
After you have fed through several chickens and added the exercise
fun; maybe a few weeks, reevaluate your dogs weight. Look at them from
the top; are they a little less wide? From the side, is there the
beginnings of a little tuck up in the belly area? Put your fingers on
their sides and rub lightly back and forth. Can you feel a bit if
'washboard' ribs? If so, then they are losing bulk, and maybe some
weight, too. Don't expect to take weight quickly from a small dog,
slower is better for their health.
A species appropriate whole prey model diet will be all they need for
optimum nutrition without all those expensive and unnecessary
supplements and additives. Too much bone and all the other stuff in
their diet now is the reason for the hard stools; this will resolve
itself on a better balanced diet of unprocessed raw meat, organs &
bones. After several weeks you will need to add a different protein
into their diet; let us know when you're ready to move on.

Take a few deep breaths, Rana, in and out, slowly. ; ) It will be all
right.
Really. : )
TC
Giselle
with Bea in New Jersey

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