[rawfeeding] Re: Help...not going so well

Hmm...In only a week you have a whole lot of variety in there! That
might be your problem.

> They get feed twice a day RMB in the morning and muscle meat at
> night ...

You might consider feeding just once a day or maybe a bone in meal
for both feedings. Your dogs just might not be able to handle a
meaty meat meal yet.

> some snacks like a marrow bone to chew on during the day or maybe
> a pork shoulder.

Woah, a pork shoulder for a snack? I don't think your pups need a
big snack in addition to two meals a day. BTW, marrow bones are
really dense and can cause tooth breakage, I'd stay away from them.

> So yesterday they had chicken quarters and turkey necks for
> breakfast and for dinner consumed beef tongue. My girl had a beef
> neck bone for snack and the boy the pork shoulder.

For dogs a week into raw feeding, this is probably wayy too much
variety, and depending on the size of dogs, probably way too much
food.

> This morning I woke up to a pile of soft stool at the front door
> of the bedroom (as if he couldn't hold it)

Probably from too much food.

> and two piles of puke in the bathroom. Then as the morning
> progressed he puked 5 more times -looked like a lot of bone pieces
> in the vomit.

This is a natural reaction to an irritated stomach. Did your boy
partake in the beef neck bone, or eat the bone from the pork
shoulder? That probably would have done it.

> He also had explosive diarrhea outside. He seems to be lethargic
> and not interested in anything...yesterdy he was just fine.

He is probably really uncomfortable right now. Is he drinking water
ok? If the liquid poo has stopped and he's holding down water I
would fast him for a day and start again with a much more basic
menu. When my dogs eat something that doesn't agree with them, they
generally laze about for a day, giving me sad eyes.

> Next, we have a new puppy who is also on raw...
> So last night she
> got chicken necks with no skin or fat that I could see and she
> wouldn't eat in the morning but got two meals once she would eat.

She might not have been hungry in the morning. How big is she and
what breed?

> She still has very soft to liquid stool.

You mentioned that you suspected parasites, have you taken care of
them? It can take a while for the poo to get back to normal. You
also might be feeding her too much in one sitting.

> Maybe starting from the beginning and going back to just chicken
> quarters and chicken breast...any suggestions??

I think going back to basics is a great idea. Go back to just
chicken. Get whole ones, whack them up, and feed through them. Let
everyone's digestive system get used to it before adding variety.
You'll probably want to fast your boy for a day to give his system
time to reset. I know it is hard to hold back on variety at first,
but you guys have a lifetime to explore new foods. Take it easy for
now.

Good luck!
Andrea

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