[rawfeeding] Re: Hello new here a minced beef question please? - Lynda

Hi, Lynda!
Let me answer this way; if you are feeding as close to whole prey
model raw as you can, you will buy a whole chicken and be feeding all
the parts, including the organs until gone. Ideally, this would be a
complete whole chicken, head to feet, ungutted, but a lot of us can't
manage that, for one reason or another.
So, if you cut up a whole (plucked and gutted) chicken for a tiny pup,
you will have 2 drumsticks, 2 thighs, 2 pieces of back, 6 pieces of
breast (2pc with the wings attached) 1 neck, 1 heart, 1 gizzard and
one liver. All will have varying amounts of bone, but 4 sections of
the breast meat will have very little bone.
I recommended to Petra to alternate bony parts with bits of organ and
meatymeat parts to avoid either having dry, crumbly hard to pass
stools, or runny, sloppy too frequent stools.
Feeding as much a variety of different protein sources and variety of
animal parts over time tries to mimic as much as possible the whole
prey for those of us who cannot obtain real whole prey.
Technically, heart and gizzards are organ, but are rich and meaty, so
most people feed them as meatymeat.
I personally would not recommend buying chicken carcasses (frames)
especially stripped ones, as they aren't worth the price you are
paying for them, or feeding, as they are much too bony.
If you feed edible bone every meal, the percentage of bone to meat &
organs will be artificially high. While each prey animal naturally has
a different percentage of bone to meat & organ ratio, a lot of us use
the general "rule of thumb" of 80% meat (including skin,hide,fat,
connective tissue, etc.) 10% bone & 10% organs (liver being only 2-5%)
as 'the norm' to aim for. So, since bone is a much smaller part of the
whole diet, it stands to reason that some meals will consist of only
meatymeat.
Don't think RMBs, (raw meaty bones) as the ideal diet, think, how can
I obtain either whole prey, or mimic whole prey over time?
Let us know if you have other questions.
TC, and NPs
Giselle
with Bea in New Jersey

> Hi Giselle & Petra
>
> Excuse me for jumping in on this one. I have a puppy of same age
and onto day 3 of raw. I found your advice Giselle in this post close
to where I am now. However I have been wondering whether I need to
feed a bony chicken piece every meal (he is on 3 meals). You say to
alternate a bony meal with a meat meal. Do you mean the meat meal has
no bone? If so what do we give him if we're still in the introductory
stage of chicken. Excuse me if I have missed something blatantly
obvious.
>
> Also in your opinion do the chicken frames (bought at supermarket)
have sufficient meat on them to make them a bone meal? I bought
several of these as they are cheap and then realized that they don't
have huge amounts of flesh.
>
> Are chicken giblets a meat or an organ?
>
> Thanks if you can answer this. Much appreciated.
>
> Lynda (NZ)

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